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Maths Nut
25-11-2015
In response to those who claim that Peter Andre didn't get a standing ovation...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/strictlyc...d-37097380bc6d
Dervlathedog
25-11-2015
Originally Posted by Maths Nut:
“In response to those who claim that Peter Andre didn't get a standing ovation...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/strictlyc...d-37097380bc6d”

Ta for the link!
Not sure anything can stop a crowd with pitchforks but good to have some clarity
edy10
25-11-2015
Yes a standing ovation after the audience was asked to give one.
Everyone involved in this debacle just need to stop talking .
BeeBumble
25-11-2015
So there's even a clip with the orginal ending which shows Peter did get a SO.
primer
25-11-2015
The fixed camera shot of the end of Peter's dance where Tristran and Jamelia can be seen coming on afterwards (presumably before the judges vote in the dance off) should put paid to the nonsense about the ovation having been 'faked' after the event.
primer
25-11-2015
Originally Posted by edy10:
“Yes a standing ovation after the audience was asked to give one.
Everyone involved in this debacle just need to stop talking .”

why do you think they were asked? Its a single take shot, no editing, and it clearly happens at the end of the dance off after PA dances.
BeeBumble
25-11-2015
Originally Posted by edy10:
“Yes a standing ovation after the audience was asked to give one.
Everyone involved in this debacle just need to stop talking .”

The original claim was Peter did not get a standing ovation on the first go and they redid the end and that's when they told people to stand. The clip now shows that a SO was given one on the first go anyway.
Mr Cellophane
25-11-2015
Originally Posted by primer:
“why do you think they were asked? Its a single take shot, no editing, and it clearly happens at the end of the dance off after PA dances.”


Yes, but if the end of the dance was re-shot, it could be from the second time, after 'guidance' had been given to the audience....
Then of course there are all the photo editing tools available. (Not saying one was used, just that a photo these days doesn't prove much.)

We have 2 people saying that there was deliberate re-shoot to include a SO - Jamelia and the Spoiler thread mole. Be good to get some more corroboration.
Lilystar
25-11-2015
Originally Posted by Mr Cellophane:
“Yes, but if the end of the dance was re-shot, it could be from the second time, after 'guidance' had been given to the audience....
Then of course there are all the photo editing tools available. (Not saying one was used, just that a photo these days doesn't prove much.)

We have 2 people saying that there was deliberate re-shoot to include a SO - Jamelia and the Spoiler thread mole. Be good to get some more corroboration.”

No-one ever said the end of the dance was reshot, they only ever claimed additional audience shots had been taken afterwards, before the judges announced their decision.
steff0202
25-11-2015
A whole 2 people!!!
Dervlathedog
25-11-2015
Originally Posted by steff0202:
“A whole 2 people!!!”

Unless Jay thought they were cute, in which case, a mixed bag of off-cuts
Paace
25-11-2015
Peter did not get a SO when he first danced . Neither may I add did Jamelia, which she should have .

Peter did not get an unanimous SO when he finished in the results as can be seen .

Why did we not get any audience shots of Jamelia when she finished her dance in the DO?
Mr Cellophane
25-11-2015
Originally Posted by Lilystar:
“No-one ever said the end of the dance was reshot, they only ever claimed additional audience shots had been taken afterwards, before the judges announced their decision.”


Oh, OK, I understood that was the Spoiler mole's allegation, but I don't actually participate in that thread,so I may well have got it wrong. (There's still PhotoShop tho' !)

I seem to recall a shot that showed the audience behind Tess definitely seated just after Peter's DO effort finished, but again I might have it wrong.
shrinkingviolet
25-11-2015
Originally Posted by Mr Cellophane:
“Yes, but if the end of the dance was re-shot, it could be from the second time, after 'guidance' had been given to the audience....
Then of course there are all the photo editing tools available. (Not saying one was used, just that a photo these days doesn't prove much.)

We have 2 people saying that there was deliberate re-shoot to include a SO - Jamelia and the Spoiler thread mole. Be good to get some more corroboration.”

And reports from other people who were there who said there was. Unless they are in on the BBC conspiracy AND the BBC have now gone the extraordinary lengths of Photoshopping & editing raw video, blogging about it and posting it all over the place despite the fact that press, dancers etc were there and would have seen it, is it not possible that the mole and Jamelia might have been mistaken, in the mole's case sitting at a different area and missed it &/or looking back on it with slightly biased recollection?

I just think people are reaching a lot to get the conspiracy to stick when it was a pretty flimsy conspiracy to begin with.
Dervlathedog
25-11-2015
Do you think on DS threads in the future, the BBC will be accused of amending our grandchildren's memories in their sleep?
Mr Cellophane
25-11-2015
Originally Posted by shrinkingviolet:
“And reports from other people who were there who said there was. Unless they are in on the BBC conspiracy AND the BBC have now gone the extraordinary lengths of Photoshopping & editing raw video, blogging about it and posting it all over the place despite the fact that press, dancers etc were there and would have seen it, is it not possible that the mole and Jamelia might have been mistaken, in the mole's case sitting at a different area and missed it &/or looking back on it with slightly biased recollection?

I just think people are reaching a lot to get the conspiracy to stick when it was a pretty flimsy conspiracy to begin with.”


Yes, it is possible, which is precisely why I would like to hear some corroboration.
But at this point I am going to bow out, as the temperature in here seems to be climbing a bit.
shrinkingviolet
25-11-2015
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“Do you think on DS threads in the future, the BBC will be accused of amending our grandchildren's memories in their sleep?”

You mean they're not doing it now? But how else will they keep Peter in?
Dervlathedog
25-11-2015
Originally Posted by shrinkingviolet:
“You mean they're not doing it now? But how else will they keep Peter in?”

Scary. You thought they were fixing your fillings, actually it's the Director General fiddling in your synapses
stanandjan
25-11-2015
The pathetic pleading is..
"Gathering extra shots of the audience clapping etc is par for the course on shows of this nature and this is something we do every week. The key point is that these shots are representative of what happened following Peter and Janette’s dance off. For the avoidance of doubt"

One Question.
Week after week these shots are NEVER shown for the First couple dancing!
Why Not?

Equal exposure time for both would surely be appropriate!
amelia_lee
25-11-2015
The standing o thing has been blown way out of proportion, you could see the audience stand up afterwards to the side in the wide shot.

I think it's just silly, clearly they have to reshoot bits at times, it was his team anyway, I guess they would have been standing for him anyway.
The 'mole' said, so it must be true right?

I don't set much stock on this, but it is detracting from the judges decision, which I do believe was wrong.
A.D.P
25-11-2015
Originally Posted by Maths Nut:
“In response to those who claim that Peter Andre didn't get a standing ovation...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/strictlyc...d-37097380bc6d”

The camera doesn't lie, those who said no standing ovation, clearly have lied.

Hope newspapers who printed false claims redact their lies.
TerryM22
25-11-2015
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“Scary. You thought they were fixing your fillings, actually it's the Director General fiddling in your synapses ”

That sounds painful
Dervlathedog
25-11-2015
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“That sounds painful”

The brain has no feeling. At least we're spared that
Doghouse Riley
25-11-2015
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“The camera doesn't lie, those who said no standing ovation, clearly have lied.

Hope newspapers who printed false claims redact their lies.”

TV has always been "smoke and mirrors." "What you see, is what you're given."

was Jamelia lying? I doubt it.
square-root
25-11-2015
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“TV has always been "smoke and mirrors." "What you see, is what you're given."

was Jamelia lying? I doubt it.”

This.

What people are assuming, wrongly or otherwise, is that the camera long shot of Andre's dance off, which the BBC have put on iplayer as "evidence" that he got a SO, was the first and only time he did the routine in the DO. Now it could all be down to the vagueness of the wording, but from the spoiler thread, I seem to remember the mole saying that Andre had redone his routine in the DO because he didn't get an SO.

Originally Posted by abigailsmum:
“Ok, have asked about the judges vote, & am awaiting a reply.

Mole did say that they did a second take for a standing ovation for pondray, as he wasn't actually given one after he danced in the dance off, so it looks like he was when they edit it. Mole says was a fix!!”

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