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Roberta_Lewis
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Oliver_Bear:
“This was posted by another audience member on the febook site,

I was in the audience on Saturday and the only time we were asked to record a standing ovation was after the 2 dance offs. Peter didn't actually get one!
Like · Reply · 17 · 9 hrs”

Sorry,but this proves nothing,it could be someone jumping on the bandwagon or not a Peter fan stirring the pot,also I don't believe half the comments I read on facebook most are posted for the effect they create.
amelia_lee
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Oliver_Bear:
“This was posted by another audience member on the facebook site,

I was in the audience on Saturday and the only time we were asked to record a standing ovation was after the 2 dance offs. Peter didn't actually get one!
Like · Reply · 17 · 9 hrs”

This could be your mole, or who knows. it could well be someone even on this forum who wants to get in on all the drama. This proves noting as you do not even know if this person was in the audience.

From the video shown the audience stands up, even those in the balcony stand after the dance.
holly berry
26-11-2015
I just don't understand how re-shooting a standing ovation can still be called a 'standing ovation' when it isn't a spontaneous response to anything that has just concluded.

It's a faked ovation and leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

Could someone consult the studio log to find out how often standing ovations are faked because I would really like to know,
Roberta_Lewis
26-11-2015
From what I could tell from the film the only part that might have been re recorded are shots of Peters wife,friends and family,mainly to get better shots of them,this is standard practice on some shows.I think Jamelia wanted to go out with bang and she's managed to do so,I think she put her on spin on what she saw or heard.For someone who claimed she would never do the show she sure has made her mark,got the money and the column inches.
Amethyst12
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“I think possibly the camera guys used the 4 minutes of props removal to get better views of family and other celebs . As we've seen, they like those kind of 'spot the celeb' moments .At one recording (not of strictly) our section were told not to stand up at any point because it blocked the fixed camera sight line to a local political bigwig in the audience .
As I said on sunday night , it's difficult to believe a version of events from someone when they are using derogatory names about one of the two celebs in the dance off anyway .Just a personal foible of mine, but once you go that route ( nicknames) any further debate is tainted for me and I cash out .
Now that I've seen that wide angle unedited shot from the show done immediately at the end of the dance I feel my instincts were correct and the whole conspiracy theory has now been blown out of the water .Nor has anyone confirmed the "boos" claim .
Just my opinion , but each to their own view and I know the conspiracy theory will rumble on despite definitive proof being thrown at it from everywhere .”

Yay, a calm voice of reason. All this bickering has given me a clanging headache. Worse than the kids !!!

1. It's a telly show.
2. It's a shame Jamelia chose not to show the same spirit and dignity as the 4 dancers she had knocked out of the show .......
Roberta_Lewis
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“I think possibly the camera guys used the 4 minutes of props removal to get better views of family and other celebs . As we've seen, they like those kind of 'spot the celeb' moments .At one recording (not of strictly) our section were told not to stand up at any point because it blocked the fixed camera sight line to a local political bigwig in the audience .
As I said on sunday night , it's difficult to believe a version of events from someone when they are using derogatory names about one of the two celebs in the dance off anyway .Just a personal foible of mine, but once you go that route ( nicknames) any further debate is tainted for me and I cash out .
Now that I've seen that wide angle unedited shot from the show done immediately at the end of the dance I feel my instincts were correct and the whole conspiracy theory has now been blown out of the water .Nor has anyone confirmed the "boos" claim .
Just my opinion , but each to their own view and I know the conspiracy theory will rumble on despite definitive proof being thrown at it from everywhere .”

Great post but however some are still determined that it's a big conspiracy,and from memory.moles have been known to post incorrect information on results.
holly berry
26-11-2015
How can a standing ovation be reshot and still be called a standing ovation rather than a staged ovation that is in response to a prompt given by a floor manager rather than a dance that is just finished?

I would really like to know,
Hmmbop
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Roberta_Lewis:
“From what I could tell from the film the only part that might have been re recorded are shots of Peters wife,friends and family,mainly to get better shots of them,this is standard practice on some shows.I think Jamelia wanted to go out with bang and she's managed to do so,I think she put her on spin on what she saw or heard.For someone who claimed she would never do the show she sure has made her mark,got the money and the column inches.”

I found the F&F clapping a bit lacklustre. Almost as if it wasn't spontaneous. And I said this in another thread - to me Emily looks upset and as if she is crying. Perhaps she felt embarrassed and slightly humiliated for her husband, that he didnt get the repsonse they felt he deserved or expected - maybe all the apparent boos about the D.O decision were getting to her, too. She definitely doesn't look very happy or that she's enjoying herself much.
amelia_lee
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Hmmbop:
“I found the F&F clapping a bit lacklustre. Almost as if it wasn't spontaneouss And I said this in another thread - to me Emily looks upset and as if she is crying. Perhaps she felt embarrassed and slightly humiliated for her husband, that he didnt get the repsonse they felt he deserved or expected - maybe all the apparent boos about the D.O decision were getting to her, too. She definitely doesnt look very happy or that she's enjoying herself much.”

Oh my word, talk about projection!

She could also look upset as her husband was in the dance off and on the brink of being eliminated.
Hmmbop
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by amelia_lee:
“Oh my word, talk about projection!

She could also look upset as her husband was in the dance off and on the brink of being eliminated.”

Well as so many keep on saying here - it's just a light entertainment dance show. Why look so upset? Hardly the end of the world.
amelia_lee
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Hmmbop:
“Well as so many keep on saying here - it's just a light entertainment dance show. Why look so upset? Hardly the end of the world.”

Well then why look upset for any of the reasons you have implied either, the same thing applies.
Hmmbop
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by amelia_lee:
“Well then why look upset for any of the reasons you have implied either, the same thing applies.”

Indeed! Here's what I think though. I think she looked upset cause he performed an absolutely dreadful jive with zero technique, that actually wasn't really a jive, and not in a billion light years worth 2 X 8, then he didn't get a spontaneous SO, and when the decision was made to let J go, the boos about that strange decision probably got to her a bit too.

I know you'll feel differently, so I'll leave you to it.
amelia_lee
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Hmmbop:
“Indeed! Here's what I think though. I think she looked upset cause he performed an absolutely dreadful jive with zero technique, that actually wasn't really a jive, and not in a billion light years worth 2 X 8, then he didn't get a spontaneous SO, and when the decision was made to let J go, the boos about that strange decision probably got to her a bit too.

I know you'll free differently, so I'll leave you to it.”

But you are projecting again and here's the thing, your timeline makes no sense, they refilmed their part of the SO BEFORE Jamelia was sent home, so she would not be upset about that.

If you watch the video without bias, you see that the audience did get to their feet, including those even on the balcony.
Gullible Public
26-11-2015
The whole standing ovation thing isn't a big deal for me, I think it's fair to say that this sort of stuff happens with recorded tv.

It's a nice deflection from what is the bigger issue though, and that is judging the dance off on 'anything' but the dance off.

It's happened before, and no doubt it will happen again - I recall Gabby Logan being totally robbed when in the bottom two with Penny Lancaster.

At least now the judges know they are going to have to tread more carefully in future, and fair play to the people that have raised the unfairnes of this particular dance off - The judges now know they are more accountable for their decisons than at any point in the past.
Englishspinner
26-11-2015
The slight but distinct differences in the armography of the post-dance hug, strongly suggest there were [at least] two takes from a point before the end of the dance. This makes this release worthless on its own, as the suspicion is that this is the staged version.

As per usual with these all too frequent beeb blunders, the initial cock-up is being made a 1000 times worse by the subsequent cover-up.
amelia_lee
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Gullible Public:
“The whole standing ovation thing isn't a big deal for me, I think it's fair to say that this sort of stuff happens with recorded tv.

It's a nice deflection from what is the bigger issue though, and that is judging the dance off on 'anything' but the dance off.

It's happened before, and no doubt it will happen again - I recall Gabby Logan being totally robbed when in the bottom two with Penny Lancaster.

At least now the judges know they are going to have to tread more carefully in future, and fair play to the people that have raised the unfairnes of this particular dance off - The judges now know they are more accountable for their decisons than at any point in the past.”

Well it happened with Simon and Pixie, she picked up two votes from the judges, when it was clear that on the dance off alone, Simon was by far the better dancer compared to Pixie's cha cha. She shouldn't of even got the two votes on that dance.
wazzyboy
26-11-2015
This may have asked and forgive me if it has, but can anyone make out anything that Peter says at the end of the clip on the blog?
MaggieMcGee
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by wazzyboy:
“This may have asked and forgive me if it has, but can anyone make out anything that Peter says at the end of the clip on the blog?”

Something like, that was good enough babe.
Oliver_Bear
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Roberta_Lewis:
“Sorry,but this proves nothing,it could be someone jumping on the bandwagon or not a Peter fan stirring the pot,also I don't believe half the comments I read on facebook most are posted for the effect they create.”

She seems pretty adamant, she also posted this,

yes, it does CLEARLY show it because it was RECORDED at the end at 10.45pm Saturday night so they could stick it on the end of his dance!!!!!!!!!!
Like · Reply · 6 · 5 hrs

So she says it was recorded right at the end of the night?

She has also been back on in the last hour.
daziechain
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Mr Cellophane:
“Yes, but if the end of the dance was re-shot, it could be from the second time, after 'guidance' had been given to the audience....
Then of course there are all the photo editing tools available. (Not saying one was used, just that a photo these days doesn't prove much.)

We have 2 people saying that there was deliberate re-shoot to include a SO - Jamelia and the Spoiler thread mole. Be good to get some more corroboration.”

I spoke to a friend yesterday who knew people who were in the audience. She said the ending of Peter's dance was re-shot and not just the standing ovation.
This seems weird especially as the director is saying they needed to clear the floor.
Doghouse Riley
26-11-2015
Why did the BBC have to take additional footage to fill the time it took to clear the floor?

It's a recorded programme, so they'd have been unnecessary, unless of course, they wanted to influence certain perceptions?
MaggieMcGee
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by daziechain:
“I spoke to a friend yesterday who knew people who were in the audience. She said the ending of Peter's dance was re-shot and not just the standing ovation.
This seems weird especially as the director is saying they needed to clear the floor.”

Why would they re-shoot the ending of a dance and how can that be fair or appropriate for a DO?
Doghouse Riley
26-11-2015
One of the reasons the BBC started promoting blogs, was because of the negativity expressed on their own "Points of View" message board by contributors, unlike the Points of View programme, where they can cherry picked the messages.
They were on record as saying that "Many opinions posted on the Points of View Board, weren't typical of those they received by phone, letter, or e-mail." (Well, "they would say that wouldn't they?")

With a blog, the blogger can choose which comments they want to include on it. err.. just like the Points of View TV programme. So I never bother with them.
duckylucky
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Amethyst12:
“Yay, a calm voice of reason. All this bickering has given me a clanging headache. Worse than the kids !!!

1. It's a telly show.
2. It's a shame Jamelia chose not to show the same spirit and dignity as the 4 dancers she had knocked out of the show .......”

Well at least you can switch this off and go offine . Unlike the kids . You dont have to stick around to risk a headache
Heatherbell
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Oliver_Bear:
“This was posted by another audience member on the facebook site,

I was in the audience on Saturday and the only time we were asked to record a standing ovation was after the 2 dance offs. Peter didn't actually get one!
Like · Reply · 17 · 9 hrs”



Oh please .


Quote:
“ I was in the audience last saturday night and there was a huge standing ovation for peter both after his dance and for the camera re take . Brought the house down ! It was amazing and his wife was in tears . I work in TV recordings so I'm an expert .
Like - Reply - 18 - 4 hrs”

That's how easy it is to mock up a statement to suit the debate .
I bet the audience has tripled in size since saturday night .
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