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Did Tony have a valid reason for not co-operating on the task?
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dylan99
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Fried Kickin:
“It doesn't need to be valid though does it as you say he isn't required to take part.
People say lots of things,it doesn't necessarily make them true.”

I don't think a valid reason is required either. He was offered a chance to earn some dingo $s, but didn't take them up on the offer. fair enough.
floppydog
26-11-2015
I think he would have been prepared to 'serve' Yvette or Susannah. IMO it was the recipients he was averse to, not the role.
Fried Kickin
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by floppydog:
“I think he would have been prepared to 'serve' Yvette or Susannah. IMO it was the recipients he was averse to, not the role.”

Agreed
calamity
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Fried Kickin:
“Agreed ”

Not so sure about that...Tony seems to think hes above everyone..
slappers r us
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by dylan99:
“I don't think a valid reason is required either. He was offered a chance to earn some dingo $s, but didn't take them up on the offer. fair enough.”

The job wasnt to earn dollars

the job was to keep all the dollars they had earned

he and Jorgie lost the celebs all the dollars
Fried Kickin
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by calamity:
“Not so sure about that...Tony seems to think hes above everyone..”

I don't get that vibe from him.
yellowlabbie
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Fried Kickin:
“I think it's more to do with Lady C refusing to do a task that benefited everyone because she didn't want to.
So why should he do a task that benefits her if he doesn't want to?
They both loathe each other anyway.”

So why punish Kieron and Chris, what have they done wrong? At least Lady C had good reasons for refusing her tasks.
Fried Kickin
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“The job wasnt to earn dollars

the job was to keep all the dollars they had earned

he and Jorgie lost the celebs all the dollars”

Whilst slightly off topic,the rewards don't seem that great if you ask me.
It was like 2 or 3 days graft for a tin of soup,not even a tin of soup each.
Fried Kickin
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“So why punish Kieron and Chris, what have they done wrong? At least Lady C had good reasons for refusing her tasks.”

I think he's locked horns with Lady C and the others were collateral damage.
Lady C didn't have a good reason for wildly flying off the handle about not knowing what a task reward was for and subsequently point blank refusing to do it,leaving Yvette there to do it on her own.
That's the mark of Lady C right there she's only interested in herself because the oiks around camp are clearly not of her perceived social standing.
jj-min
26-11-2015
There's no valid reason other than his bruised ego.

Compare that wimp's decision with LadyC's trials. Or even Ferne who was absolutely petrified of her underwater bushtucker trial to the extent she was in tears and had to be reassured by A&D that she could refuse. But no, she stepped up to the plate - unlike pussycat Hadley who took, ooo let me see, all of 2 seconds to refuse his one and only easy task.
CaroUK
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“So why punish Kieron and Chris, what have they done wrong? At least Lady C had good reasons for refusing her tasks.”

I agree that Lady C had a good reason for refusing to do the Pit trial - she had given them fair warning about not being prepared to do coffins/pits/ burials - we heard her say it quite clearly when Tony and Susannah were choosing the first teams, and she should have been exempt from that one.

That said throwing a hissy fit over the washing up trial just because she was annoyed at being chosen (by Chris as well!) as one of the laziest in camp. She refused to do a task that actually benefitted the rest of the camp - by doing it alone, Yvette earned them 5 hammocks meaning that no one had to sleep on the ground, and IRC, Tony apologised to Lady C and even gave up his bed for her - she's the one who has held the grudge!

I think Tony would have done it for any of the other teams - but I think most of them in there have had enough of Lady C and her antics. Watching them that evening - not only did all the others back him up when he refused to go and serve - they reassured him when he seemed to be having second thoughts, and Duncan told the others that all of them had agreed with Tony (and Jorgie). I thought no the 9 losers were just happy to be having a pleasant and drama free evening.

I don't see why he is being singled out for being lazy either. He seems to do his allocated jobs without complaining, and with the best will in the world there really isn't an awful lot to do in camp once you've done your chores. There's no food to prep, nothing to read, no other entertainment.... All the others sit or lounge around most of the time too, and none of the campmates have complained about the others being lazy in the clips we have seen.
Getridofcole
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Fried Kickin:
“Whilst slightly off topic,the rewards don't seem that great if you ask me.
It was like 2 or 3 days graft for a tin of soup,not even a tin of soup each.”

I know what you mean it's a pitiful reward for Tony doing the massively excessive energy sapping task of turning two taps on
Angie_Plasty
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“I'd like somebody to post a transcipt, but I think the essence of it was that he thought it to be demeaning.”

I'll oblige.

TONY: (while slobbing on the floor after a hard day's work) I'm sort of tempted to just go...no.

JORGIE: What you thinking?

TONY: I don't wanna do it.

JORGIE: (feigns shock) Oh!

SUSANNAH: (off screen) There you go.

TONY: (to Jorgie) Do you mind?

JORGIE: No.

TONY: I don't wanna do it.

JORGIE: Let's stay classy.

TONY: I'll do anything. I'll jump off anything, I'll eat anything, but I'm not going to serve anybody.

JORGIE: Cool.

TONY: It's not my style.

JORGIE: Cool. Yeah, Tony.
Collins1965
26-11-2015
Nobody took Yvette to task over not trying to get a meal for an older woman. No matter how annoying she may be she has tried every task she undertook with 100% commitment. She refused a trial that would traumatise her, and that is fair enough in my book.

Contrast Yvette with her poisonous smile and "tough titty" comment about not getting Lady C a meal. When it was Lady C's turn she tried her best to get one for Yvette, but was unable to.

She has had some horrendous trials, the eating one and the helmets of horror, which she did with humour and got fantastic results - for a group of people who have moaned and bitched and ostracised her and drove a decent man to tears over the way she was treated.
yellowlabbie
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“I agree that Lady C had a good reason for refusing to do the Pit trial - she had given them fair warning about not being prepared to do coffins/pits/ burials - we heard her say it quite clearly when Tony and Susannah were choosing the first teams.

That said throwing a hissy fit over the washing up trial just because she was annoyed at being chosen (by Chris as well!) as one of the laziest in camp. She refused to do a task that actually benefitted the rest of the camp - by doing it alone, Yvette earned them 5 hammocks meaning that no one had to sleep on the ground, and IRC, Tony apologised to Lady C and even gave up his bed for her - she's the one who has held the grudge!

I think Tony would have done it for any of the other teams - but I think most of them in there have had enough of Lady C and her antics. Watching them that evening - not only did all the others back him up when he refused to go and serve - they reassured him when he seemed to be having second thoughts, and Duncan told the others that all of them had agreed with Tony (and Jorgie).

I don't see why he is being singled out for being lazy either. He seems to do his allocated jobs without complaining, and with the best will in the world there really isn't an awful lot to do in camp once you've done your chores. There's no food to prep, nothing to read, no other entertainment.... All the others sit or lounge around most of the time too, and none of the campmates have complained about the others being lazy in the clips we have seen.”

Lady C has won them a lot of meals in the camp, she has tried her very best at all the trials apart from the one she refused because Tony called her lazy. Yvette was also vindictive when she didn't do the task to win Lady C her meal whereas Lady C won Yvette's meal for her.

Lady C is showing them all up for what they are, they think they are all so perfect when in fact they are far from it. The only 2 with any sense of fair play are Kieron and Chris.
Jimmy Connors
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by dylan99:
“I don't think a valid reason is required either. He was offered a chance to earn some dingo $s, but didn't take them up on the offer. fair enough.”

That was not the offer. The offer was to do the task in order to keep the tokens (dingo dollars for the vending machine or whatever they're called) they already had. Which they now do not have.
yellowlabbie
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Jimmy Connors:
“That was not the offer. The offer was to do the task in order to keep the tokens they already had. Which they now do not have.”

Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face
Alrightmate
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Fried Kickin:
“It doesn't need to be valid though does it as you say he isn't required to take part.
People say lots of things,it doesn't necessarily make them true.”

No it doesn't, but it's the question which this thread is about.
He doesn't have to give a valid reason to anybody if he doesn't feel like it, but the OP is asking the question whether his reason is valid.
Fried Kickin
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“No it doesn't, but it's the question which this thread is about.
He doesn't have to give a valid reason to anybody if he doesn't feel like it, but the OP is asking the question whether his reason is valid.”

Which is a rather pointless question as it requires no validity at all.
I've offered up my thoughts on why he actually refused.
Jimmy Connors
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face ”

Indeed.
Nollaig79
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by lilpilgrim:
“I got that impression too. I'm starting to think that he's the only one who knows why they didn't do the task. None of them are exactly rushing forward to offer an explanation on his behalf, are they?”

Yup most of them didn't know the reason why or weren't 100% sure, but they rather stick with the crowd and not make waves, so they went along with Tony's decision... in other words,they are a bunch of sheep!
missfrizzy
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Fried Kickin:
“I think it's more to do with Lady C refusing to do a task that benefited everyone because she didn't want to.
So why should he do a task that benefits her if he doesn't want to?
They both loathe each other anyway.”

Lady C has done quite a few tasks in there to feed his fat belly, it wasn't beneath him to eat the food she earned was it? He's such a lazy slob, it was the least he could do since he hadn't done a task.
missfrizzy
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Lady C has won them a lot of meals in the camp, she has tried her very best at all the trials apart from the one she refused because Tony called her lazy. Yvette was also vindictive when she didn't do the task to win Lady C her meal whereas Lady C won Yvette's meal for her.

Lady C is showing them all up for what they are, they think they are all so perfect when in fact they are far from it. The only 2 with any sense of fair play are Kieron and Chris.”

This.
They are just a spiteful bunch of brown nosing fakes.
Lucy_James
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by danielleh:
“Excluding injury, what would be a valid reason?

He found it degrading? He's lazy? He doesn't like Lady C?”

^these if it had been anyone else as well he would have done it, he didnt do it because it was ladyc and the others and that wasnt on, i hope he gets a trial and then is the first to go.
calamity
26-11-2015
Originally Posted by Lucy_James:
“^these if it had been anyone else as well he would have done it, he didnt do it because it was ladyc and the others and that wasnt on, i hope he gets a trial and then is the first to go.”

if the trial means leaving his chair, theyre doomed for grub...he ll need carried there carried back then carried out...
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