So what? The sun sets at like 10:15pm where I live so that means that the sun is SHINNING at 10:15pm i.e not just twilight like in England. It does not bother us in Northern Ireland so why would it impact people in England?
Is it going REALLY dark where you are already?
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I used to live near Aberdeen. It was bloody great in summer.
Trouble was that average summers were only about 3 weeks long.
Trouble was that average summers were only about 3 weeks long.
Our sunset is that late that when I was in NYC last summer the sun was setting like 2/3 hours after us.
Originally Posted by Big brother tv:
“Our sunset is that late that when I was in NYC last summer the sun was setting like 2/3 hours after us.”
“Our sunset is that late that when I was in NYC last summer the sun was setting like 2/3 hours after us.”
You really are nuts. Ever thought they're on a different Longitude and latitude? They're also in Eastern Time.
Originally Posted by Big brother tv:
“So what? The sun sets at like 10:15pm where I live so that means that the sun is SHINNING at 10:15pm i.e not just twilight like in England. It does not bother us in Northern Ireland so why would it impact people in England?”
“So what? The sun sets at like 10:15pm where I live so that means that the sun is SHINNING at 10:15pm i.e not just twilight like in England. It does not bother us in Northern Ireland so why would it impact people in England?”
We don't want to do something just because the Irish do it. We're quite happy being English with our English weather, English sunsets and English timezones.
Jeez.
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“You really are nuts. Ever thought they're on a different Longitude and latitude? They're also in Eastern Time.”
“You really are nuts. Ever thought they're on a different Longitude and latitude? They're also in Eastern Time.”
If you had a brain you'd be able to look up sunset times and convert between the timezones.
Originally Posted by Big brother tv:
“What do you mean Irish? I'm a British citizen, resident in the United Kingdom.”
“What do you mean Irish? I'm a British citizen, resident in the United Kingdom.”
I know this is a stretch but you aren't the only person on the planet. I said the English are quite happy with our English weather, English sunsets and English timezones. We don't feel the need to change it.
Originally Posted by Big brother tv:
“So what? The sun sets at like 10:15pm where I live so that means that the sun is SHINNING at 10:15pm i.e not just twilight like in England. It does not bother us in Northern Ireland so why would it impact people in England?”
“So what? The sun sets at like 10:15pm where I live so that means that the sun is SHINNING at 10:15pm i.e not just twilight like in England. It does not bother us in Northern Ireland so why would it impact people in England?”
Yes but there are only about 2 million people in Northern Ireland, but over 60 million in England, Scotland and Wales.
You have to consider the whole population.
CET in England would mean many more people would be getting up and commuting to school/work in darkness in Winter. It would also mean many would have difficulty getting off to sleep in mid-summer.
Look at these sunrise and sunset times for Carlisle: http://www.timeanddate.com/sun/uk/ca...th=1&year=2016
If CET was adopted the sun in January would not rise till 9:30am!
The sun in Summer would not set until nearly 11pm!
I did a Poll a while back asking what time system we should adopt. The majority opted to stick to the status quo.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2112726
Back in the 90's Portugal tried to adopt CET but it was unpopular they reverted back. More recently Russia tried it too but it proved so unpopular that they decided to keep the time on the Winter setting (equivalent of our GMT) all year round!
https://www.rt.com/news/199464-winte...russia-clocks/
Those who choose to live in Northern Ireland have accepted that the sunrises and sunsets are later. But to force 60 million people to get up and commute in the dark in Winter and have the sun streaming through thier window when their trying to get to sleep in the middle of summer?? I'm happy with my sunrise and sunset times throughout the year thanks.
Winter
Latest Sunrise: 8:30am
Earliest Sunset: 3:45pm
Summer
Earliest Sunrise: 4:30am
Latest Sunset: 9:45pm
Originally Posted by Big brother tv:
“You must lack any sort of common sense, for if you did, it would not take you too long to work out that yes 5pm sunsets in March are a tad early.
Sunsets at 50N + in March
West to East
1. Moscow - 6:13 pm
2. Novosibirsk - 6:12pm
3. kemerovo - 6:00pm
4. Krasnoyarsk - 6:31pm
5. Unalaska - 7:50pm
6. Edmonton - 6:18pm
7. Winnipeg - 6:16pm
8. Labrador City - 6:14pm
So yes Londonderry has a similar sunset time to these locations, average seems to be around 6:10pm for 50N +.”
“You must lack any sort of common sense, for if you did, it would not take you too long to work out that yes 5pm sunsets in March are a tad early.
Sunsets at 50N + in March
West to East
1. Moscow - 6:13 pm
2. Novosibirsk - 6:12pm
3. kemerovo - 6:00pm
4. Krasnoyarsk - 6:31pm
5. Unalaska - 7:50pm
6. Edmonton - 6:18pm
7. Winnipeg - 6:16pm
8. Labrador City - 6:14pm
So yes Londonderry has a similar sunset time to these locations, average seems to be around 6:10pm for 50N +.”
Edmonton, Boston (USA) Winnipeg, Labrador and everywhere else in North America will be putting their clocks forward 2 weeks before us. These such places will be suffer again from darkness again 7.00am to 8.00am their times for an extra 2 weeks compared to Europe.
They won’t be happy.
Originally Posted by Big brother tv:
“Civil twilight already ends at around 11:20 in County Londonderry in June so I don't see the big deal here. Why would changing for CET for England be so damaging?
And Murcia lies at 2 degrees West so it is in the GMT timezone, sunset in the GMT timezone there would be 7:30pm in June, it is only 9:30pm because they have a timezone which is hours ahead of their natural one. I am right, their sunset is hours before mines.
Get your facts right about twilight times. London does not have a longer twilight than County Londonderry, please read this document. You will see that County Londonderry has Nautical twilight all night long in summer - this does not happen in pretty much all of England. So yes daylight does last alot longer there.
http://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy...-twilight.html
'Nautical twilight occurs when the geometrical center of the Sun is between 6 degrees and 12 degrees below the horizon. This twilight period is less bright than civil twilight and artificial light is generally required for outdoor activities.'”
“Civil twilight already ends at around 11:20 in County Londonderry in June so I don't see the big deal here. Why would changing for CET for England be so damaging?
And Murcia lies at 2 degrees West so it is in the GMT timezone, sunset in the GMT timezone there would be 7:30pm in June, it is only 9:30pm because they have a timezone which is hours ahead of their natural one. I am right, their sunset is hours before mines.
Get your facts right about twilight times. London does not have a longer twilight than County Londonderry, please read this document. You will see that County Londonderry has Nautical twilight all night long in summer - this does not happen in pretty much all of England. So yes daylight does last alot longer there.
http://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy...-twilight.html
'Nautical twilight occurs when the geometrical center of the Sun is between 6 degrees and 12 degrees below the horizon. This twilight period is less bright than civil twilight and artificial light is generally required for outdoor activities.'”
Murcia will be dark again after 8am when the clocks go forward very shortly. Really crazy.
Originally Posted by Big brother tv:
“If they didn't put the clocks forward in Northern Ireland, I wouldn't care.”
“If they didn't put the clocks forward in Northern Ireland, I wouldn't care.”
I'm guessing no one else on here would either.
Originally Posted by Big brother tv:
“What are you commenting for then?”
“What are you commenting for then?”
I think people come on to laugh at you mostly.
Originally Posted by Big brother tv:
“If they didn't put the clocks forward in Northern Ireland, I wouldn't care.”
“If they didn't put the clocks forward in Northern Ireland, I wouldn't care.”
Wait what??? So now you won't mind if Ireland stay on GMT all summer??
I thought you liked late sunsets. You have contradicted yourself so many times on this thread. You are laughable.
Good day.
I said England should go on CET because it has early sunsets throughout the year. We
don't need CET because we are on the very far west of the timezone.
Obviously you aren't going to listen to me because you are clearly picking out negatives and trying to degrade me.
don't need CET because we are on the very far west of the timezone.
Obviously you aren't going to listen to me because you are clearly picking out negatives and trying to degrade me.
Originally Posted by striing:
“I know this is a stretch but you aren't the only person on the planet. I said the English are quite happy with our English weather, English sunsets and English timezones. We don't feel the need to change it.”
“I know this is a stretch but you aren't the only person on the planet. I said the English are quite happy with our English weather, English sunsets and English timezones. We don't feel the need to change it.”
You know full well what he meant.
Originally Posted by Big brother tv:
“I said England should go on CET because it has early sunsets throughout the year. We
don't need CET because we are on the very far west of the timezone.
Obviously you aren't going to listen to me because you are clearly picking out negatives and trying to degrade me.”
“I said England should go on CET because it has early sunsets throughout the year. We
don't need CET because we are on the very far west of the timezone.
Obviously you aren't going to listen to me because you are clearly picking out negatives and trying to degrade me.
”
What about Wales? But discrimatory to them. Anyway, we do not need CET anywhere in the British Isles.
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious_:
“You know full well what he meant.”
“You know full well what he meant.”
Welcome to the thread Big Brother TVs mum!!
Throw this question into the mix. Is it really necessary for the UK to go through the ritual of changing the clocks in the 21st century. Shouldnt we have referendum so that the people are given the opportunity to decide seeing as our MPs are inept at deciding on our behalf what timezone we should be in.
If were to keep BST all year the argument would be the kids will be going to school in the dark. But that would depend on weather conditions. Changing the clocks is like canute trying to stop the tide.
Edmonton in canada sunrise and sunset are half later than the UK yet they are on the same latitude as us
If were to keep BST all year the argument would be the kids will be going to school in the dark. But that would depend on weather conditions. Changing the clocks is like canute trying to stop the tide.
Edmonton in canada sunrise and sunset are half later than the UK yet they are on the same latitude as us
Originally Posted by leicslad46:
“Throw this question into the mix. Is it really necessary for the UK to go through the ritual of changing the clocks in the 21st century. Shouldnt we have referendum so that the people are given the opportunity to decide seeing as our MPs are inept at deciding on our behalf what timezone we should be in.”
“Throw this question into the mix. Is it really necessary for the UK to go through the ritual of changing the clocks in the 21st century. Shouldnt we have referendum so that the people are given the opportunity to decide seeing as our MPs are inept at deciding on our behalf what timezone we should be in.”
We don't need to decide what Timezone we're in. We're in the correct one already. And it's not just a quaint British tradition to move the clocks. The vast majority of the world does it.
Originally Posted by Big brother tv:
“I said England should go on CET because it has early sunsets throughout the year. We
don't need CET because we are on the very far west of the timezone.
Obviously you aren't going to listen to me because you are clearly picking out negatives and trying to degrade me.”
“I said England should go on CET because it has early sunsets throughout the year. We
don't need CET because we are on the very far west of the timezone.
Obviously you aren't going to listen to me because you are clearly picking out negatives and trying to degrade me.
”
I really hope geography does not form part of your alleged syllabus.
Originally Posted by leicslad46:
“Throw this question into the mix. Is it really necessary for the UK to go through the ritual of changing the clocks in the 21st century. Shouldnt we have referendum so that the people are given the opportunity to decide seeing as our MPs are inept at deciding on our behalf what timezone we should be in.
If were to keep BST all year the argument would be the kids will be going to school in the dark. But that would depend on weather conditions. Changing the clocks is like canute trying to stop the tide.
Edmonton in canada sunrise and sunset are half later than the UK yet they are on the same latitude as us”
“Throw this question into the mix. Is it really necessary for the UK to go through the ritual of changing the clocks in the 21st century. Shouldnt we have referendum so that the people are given the opportunity to decide seeing as our MPs are inept at deciding on our behalf what timezone we should be in.
If were to keep BST all year the argument would be the kids will be going to school in the dark. But that would depend on weather conditions. Changing the clocks is like canute trying to stop the tide.
Edmonton in canada sunrise and sunset are half later than the UK yet they are on the same latitude as us”
The kids go to school in the dark anyway so that's that argument out the window.
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