Which parts of the UK is this and what time do you think various schools start?

Everyone has to do geography in Year 9 but he can give it up next year.

Apparently the British standard time experiment only lasted three years and ended with a free vote in december 1970 which voted to revert back to what is common place now.

If we voted to stay in the EU why cant we adopt CET. It would be great to have it still light at midnight. Though it would mean darker mornings

Sunrise if we was on CET
21 jun 0540 sunset 2233
21 jul 0607 sunset 2214
21 aug 0657 sunset 2117
21 sep 0750 sunset 2005
21 oct 0842 sunset 1856
21 nov 0839 sunset 1702
21 dec 0915 sunset 1651
21 jan 0903 sunset 1730
21 feb 0809 sunset 1829
21 mar 0705 sunset 1920
21 apr 0653 sunset 2115
21 may 0559 sunset 2205

The darker mornings would longer but that is offset by it being light later. The summer season would last longer as well. Good for the economy and more tourism

Yes I know the feeling. To be plunged back into darkness like that after experiencing some nice sunny mornings can't be nice. A good reason to wait until after the equinox to leap forward.

Still 7:30am sunrises in some places in Ireland when clocks go forward.

They'll be going to school in the dark for even longer and in the WHOLE country if we were to adopt CET. Think about that.

Do people only spend money when it is light?
Just because it is light does not make it attractive to be outside.
Even if more money was spent on tourism, does not mean overall there would be more money spent in the economy, bearing in mind it was recently reported that savings levels are the lowest for some significant period of time.

And your point is? Or was that just a factoid?

See, that wouldn't impress me at all. I wake up before 7:30am weekdays and I like light mornings, even more than light evenings

If I was living where you are I'd be plunged back into darkness when the clocks go forward - not nice when you are just getting used to the lighter mornings and you struggle to get out of bed like me.

Guess your sunrise/sunset times aren't so perfect after all.

If I was living where you were I'd probably want GMT all year (or at least until May anyway).

Well that's what I said, we don't need dst in Northern Ireland.

You said I'm stupid when it comes to Geography. (Obviously not, got a high B at A Level). Well here is a timezone map to show you the that you are wrong and that there is quite a spread of daylength in the British Isles.

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...pse6teyflb.png

We change the clocks to move the daylight to where it's most needed. In winter we have few hours of daylight so we adopt GMT as that is most balanced - there is roughly and equal number of hours of daylight before and after 12 noon.
In summer it's different though - sunrise would occur before 4am in most places in the British Iles, while the sun would set as early as 8:30pm in many places. So we advance the clocks an hour to take an hour off the morning when most people are in bed, to an hour in the evening when most people are still awake.

If we were to adopt BST all year round it would mean sunrises after 9am for practically everywhere in Britain in winter. It would also mean virtually everyone would be getting up in darkness for most of the winter. And as most people hate getting up in the dark, I can't see it having much popularity.

Well when I went to school it was dark in December right from I got up to when I arrived. The sun did not rise to we were well into our first period.

It's not true to say that it's bright in the British Isles before 9 now as there are a few places with sunrises past 9 already. If it was bright at 8am (as in sun up) i'd have be very shocked.

Really?? Are you sure? If you were on GMT year round your lovely summer sunset at 10:15pm would be downgraded to 9:15pm sunset. But if your happy with that then that's fine.

You seem rather confused over what you wrote in #368.
I did not say "you are stupid" so do not attribute incorrect statements to me.

No you are confused. It should be obvious to you looking at the map that sunsets in Eastern England are quite a bit earlier than the rest of the British Isles.

You need to go back to #368 and read what you wrote.

Oh give me head peace.

You do realise that a few parts of England are further north than Scotland and that the north east which is at pretty much the same latitude as NI has a greater population?

Yeah that's true but the sun runs from East to West, not North to South.

I don't think you understand the correlation between timezones and day-length

No I don't think you do.

We don't need CET. We aren't in Central Europe for a start. It would be ridiculous to go to work in the dark and come home in the dark during winter and 12:00am sunsets in summer. No thanks. Our Timezone is the correct one. It's Spain and France which need to change if anyone does.

Yes but what you fail to realise is that if England was on CET it would get light even later in winter. Me and most brits are happy with the clocks the way they are thanks.

There's still a slither of light in the sky towards the west where I am and we are now into astro twilight. It was like this last night too till like 8 O'clock. There has been lingering twilight just above the hills where the sun has set. Usually all traces of light disappear by the end of nautical twilight, but last night the sky was noticeably brighter in the direction of where the sun had set. It was like 8pm last night before all the western sky was inky black. I noticed the sky had a slight blue tinge overhead. It's like summer nights where the sky never quite gets completely dark.

Astro Twilight currently ends at 8pm for my location so that seems right.
http://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/uk/clitheroe

From May-end of July we never get true darkness. We have astro twilight for a couple of hours then it's just semi darkness for the rest of the "night".