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For anyone with SAD are you really struggling this winter with the lack of sun? I'm really struggling this year. Its not the dark mornings or evenings its the fact that its constantly cloudy. I didn't suffer this bad last winter. Doesn't help summer was so miserable too.
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The good news is that at least in the south of England the sun is now setting later.
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The good news is that at least in the south of England the sun is now setting later.
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What by a minute or two? Massive difference lol.
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Only 3 seconds tonight but it will grow, day upon day.
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The six month journey of the sun northwards begins next week. Something that is welcome seeing as we are unlikely to get any of the snowy weather with gales forecast for the rest of the year. So from thursday this week the sunsets start getting later but this is offset by the sunrises getting later til january 2.
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The six month journey of the sun northwards begins next week. Something that is welcome seeing as we are unlikely to get any of the snowy weather with gales forecast for the rest of the year. So from thursday this week the sunsets start getting later but this is offset by the sunrises getting later til january 2.
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#108 |
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It's dark here too. It gets dark every night.
I've found that the light always has this irritating tendency to fade early in the day around December time. After that, it gets lighter and lighter until June when it's light almost all the time and then it starts to get dark earlier again. Funny, that. Being a bit further west than anybody else in the country, we do get a little more daylight in the afternoon and then the sun creeps up behind us and comes up in the east every morning. Sneaky ol' sun. Somebody once told me it's because the world goes round and round and not only does it rotate, but it also wobbles on something called an "axis" whatever that is. That would, sort of, explain things I suppose. ![]() ![]() ![]() Merry Christmas. |
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Wow. Thanks for the info mate, I never knew that!
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It's dark here too. It gets dark every night.
I've found that the light always has this irritating tendency to fade early in the day around December time. After that, it gets lighter and lighter until June when it's light almost all the time and then it starts to get dark earlier again. Funny, that. Being a bit further west than anybody else in the country, we do get a little more daylight in the afternoon and then the sun creeps up behind us and comes up in the east every morning. Sneaky ol' sun. Somebody once told me it's because the world goes round and round and not only does it rotate, but it also wobbles on something called an "axis" whatever that is. That would, sort of, explain things I suppose. ![]() ![]() ![]() Merry Christmas. Who knew that the days are always longer in summer than in winter??? ![]() Thought it was just the Council making cutbacks again by not buying as much sunlight. I never knew it was down to any, magical axis or the world spinning round. Thanks for the info mate, you cleared things up beautifully.
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For anyone with SAD are you really struggling this winter with the lack of sun? I'm really struggling this year. Its not the dark mornings or evenings its the fact that its constantly cloudy. I didn't suffer this bad last winter. Doesn't help summer was so miserable too.
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Sunset times for next 7 days for Leachy so he can sleep at night.
Sun in Manchester - Next 7 days ...... Sunrise .......Sunset 14 Dec 08:17 .....15:49 15 Dec 08:18 .....15:49 16 Dec 08:19 .....15:50 17 Dec 08:20 .....15:50 18 Dec 08:21 .....15:50 19 Dec 08:21 .....15:50 20 Dec 08:22 .....15:51 * All times are local time for Manchester. |
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gets even darker here because the council turn off every other street light...something do do with paying huge pensions.
think they will be having us empty our own bin at the tip soon. |
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In the south of England the first later sunset is today.
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Once we get to perihelion in january,around the 2nd,then you can honestly say that the nights drawing out will become noticeable though it takes the mornings longer. The mornings seem darker this year for some reason. Maybe its due to the cloud cover
At the end of the day it is all to do with "The equation of time" Sometimes the sun is ahead of time sometimes behind time. Best illustrated by this analemma of the sun and equation of time |
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Started going dark at 3:30pm today. Went really foggy then too which made it darker. Streetlights were soon coming on afterwards. By 4pm every streetlight was on.
It's kinda nice though as these short days feel sort of cosy and homely in a way when you get home and the heating and lights are on. It's nice travelling home when it's going dark seeing Christmas lights and people's Xmas dec's and trees in people's windows. Now it's 4:30pm and it's almost completely dark. |
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Started going dark at 3:30pm today. Went really foggy then too which made it darker. Streetlights were soon coming on afterwards. By 4pm every streetlight was on.
It's kinda nice though as these short days feel sort of cosy and homely in a way when you get home and the heating and lights are on. It's nice travelling home when it's going dark seeing Christmas lights and people's Xmas dec's and trees in people's windows. Now it's 4:30pm and it's almost completely dark.
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#118 |
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Started going dark at 3:30pm today. Went really foggy then too which made it darker. Streetlights were soon coming on afterwards. By 4pm every streetlight was on.
It's kinda nice though as these short days feel sort of cosy and homely in a way when you get home and the heating and lights are on. It's nice travelling home when it's going dark seeing Christmas lights and people's Xmas dec's and trees in people's windows. Now it's 4:30pm and it's almost completely dark. |
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Yes. I kinda like the extremes in daylight we have. I wish they were even more more extreme though. I'd love to live further north such as The Shetland Islands or even Iceland where it stays at twilight in the summer and hardly get light in the winter. Around the equinox when it gets light at 6-7am and dark at 6-7pm is just too boring.
I also like how the twilight phase (the period between sunset and nightfall or first light and sunrise) is much longer the further north you go. In fact twilight is shortest at the equinox's and longest at the summer solstice, but in the winter it is a bit longer too. Where I live, around the equinox, the period from sunrise/sunset to the beginning/end of nautical twilight (I don't count astro twilight because it is pitch black then anyway) is just over an hour but in winter It is 1 hour and 30 minutes (45 mins of civil twilight and 45 mins of dawn/dusk). It compares nothing to the summer of course when it's light half the night but there you go. You can see the times of dawn/dusk here: http://www.gaisma.com/en/location/manchester.html http://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/uk/manchester I've got used to the dark nights now. Now I have to come to terms to the fact the days are going to get longer again, and the daylight will be more "normal" again, NOOOOOOOO!!! |
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Winter Sunrise and Sunset times. Momentous aren't they? Good on David Cameron for introducing them this year.
![]() Look what you've done to Cumbria, and Carlisle..... |
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Yes, further cuts have been made to the available daylight yet again this year, especially to the north. No wonder it's going dark so early these days. Come on Conservatives, stop all these cuts before there's no daylight left and stop favouring Southerners and give us a bit more daylight. And warmth... And send the rain clouds back, we've had enough rain this month for once this month....
![]() Look what you've done to Cumbria, and Carlisle..... |
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And remember the old saying 'as the days lengthen, the cold strengthens'. Not that it would have to be very cold to do that at the moment, given the ridiculously mild weather we are having at the moment.
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Going dark? It never got light!
It really is just awful here, I'm trying to remember the last day with sun..... |
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Started going dark at 3:30pm today. Went really foggy then too which made it darker. Streetlights were soon coming on afterwards. By 4pm every streetlight was on.
It's kinda nice though as these short days feel sort of cosy and homely in a way when you get home and the heating and lights are on. It's nice travelling home when it's going dark seeing Christmas lights and people's Xmas dec's and trees in people's windows. Now it's 4:30pm and it's almost completely dark. I look forward to your sunset post tomorrow, and the day after, and the day after and the day after and the day after and the day after and the day after and the day after. This could end up the longest running thread of all time, unless the sunsets stop. |
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Thanks for confirming you had a sunset today.
I look forward to your sunset post tomorrow, and the day after, and the day after and the day after and the day after and the day after and the day after and the day after. This could end up the longest running thread of all time, unless the sunsets stop. |
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