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Old 28-11-2015, 15:37
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I don't get the Joseph love here

his win/lose record is nothing to shout about and is the same as the much maligned Gary (who his teammates preferred as PM )

he was the worst negotiater on his team for the discount buying task where he memorably came across as a slimy git when trying to use his , errh, "charm" to get a discount

he's nasty to David and Richard and acts like a petulant boy

and despite getting a good edit in the diy task (his day job) his team still lost by loads

so what is the point of Joseph?
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Old 28-11-2015, 16:36
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Not sure if OP genuinely believes Joseph is "over-rated" or whether it's one of those fabricated "against the grain" opinions you often see

Na, in all seriousness I don't think he's done much overly special but he's certainly looked the best or at least top 2 or 3 best out of a very mediocre bunch

Don't see how he's particularly nasty to David? you have to be a bit of a pr1ck in the boardroom at times, it's part of the process really. David made a bad judgment error with measurements in the DIY task, which would have been much more detrimental but for Joseph's intervention.

I wouldn't place all that much weight on him being on the losing team often, in the first few weeks there was way too many on each team with both of them scattered with deadwood. I don't think he's overly contributed to any loss, bar last week at a real push. Mark lost a sh1tload of tasks last year iirc

As for the team voting Gary PM I just assume there was a lot more said that wasn't included in the edit. Gary had been hiding away in the background the previous few weeks and had never been a PM yet. Joseph had shone as a de facto PM the week previous. I'd have voted Gary myself- even if for tactical reasons in the case of a final BR

Overall I think Joseph is very hard-working, efficient and is a good leader. He seems like a pretty decent bloke too. Him and Richard have stood out the most to me, though Vana is growing by the week it seems

Think they're a long way ahead of the chasing pack
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Old 28-11-2015, 17:01
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Very overrated.
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Old 29-11-2015, 01:13
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There's something a little stagnant about him.

Maybe it's his personality, or maybe the edit?
I guess the problem could be the way the show is now so fixed on the drama and 'hilarious' cock-ups. Then every so often they are like - oh yeah and Joseph is good by the way, okay back to the drama......

Being good is now portrayed as very boring, which makes it hard to root for anyone in terms of who deserves to win.
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Old 29-11-2015, 12:16
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He's competent but fck me if he isn't one of the most punchable faces I've ever seen. I just don't think it's possible for the guy to NOT seem smug. He's one of those candidates where, it would make sense if they won, but it'd be a bitter ending.
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Old 29-11-2015, 14:10
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I think he's overrated. His pm skills were rubbish and he's only done well in the diy task - which effectively mimicked his day job. He'll probably get to the final for as there are other more abrasive candidates that will probably get fired first but I fully expect his business plan to be ripped to shreds. Hopefully by nick hewer.
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Old 29-11-2015, 16:58
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Not sure if OP genuinely believes Joseph is "over-rated" or whether it's one of those fabricated "against the grain" opinions you often see

Na, in all seriousness I don't think he's done much overly special but he's certainly looked the best or at least top 2 or 3 best out of a very mediocre bunch

Don't see how he's particularly nasty to David? you have to be a bit of a pr1ck in the boardroom at times, it's part of the process really. David made a bad judgment error with measurements in the DIY task, which would have been much more detrimental but for Joseph's intervention.

I wouldn't place all that much weight on him being on the losing team often, in the first few weeks there was way too many on each team with both of them scattered with deadwood. I don't think he's overly contributed to any loss, bar last week at a real push. Mark lost a sh1tload of tasks last year iirc

As for the team voting Gary PM I just assume there was a lot more said that wasn't included in the edit. Gary had been hiding away in the background the previous few weeks and had never been a PM yet. Joseph had shone as a de facto PM the week previous. I'd have voted Gary myself- even if for tactical reasons in the case of a final BR

Overall I think Joseph is very hard-working, efficient and is a good leader. He seems like a pretty decent bloke too. Him and Richard have stood out the most to me, though Vana is growing by the week it seems

Think they're a long way ahead of the chasing pack
He was a bit unfair on David.
He seemed to make out as if David had committed bloody murder when he cut some things to the wrong length - he helped him then pounced on him in the boardroom.
I get the feeling he was kind of offended by the David's "some people are only good at one thing" remark after Charleine brought it up (who didn't bring it up to stir the pot, but I think she brought it up because she felt Joseph ought to know).

He's definitely getting the Roisin edit, and I've said it time and time again. He was a bit weak at the beginning, but he's peaking onwards only to get slaughtered in the interviews. Some candidates (Charleine, Scott) were so strong at the beginning but are now starting to falter - like Lauren from last year.
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Old 29-11-2015, 17:08
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Cant stand the Rat

He hated David because David was a better business person. actually has a personalty and probably wins over the women unlike himself. Jealously, no wonder chav Sugar likes him
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Old 01-12-2015, 11:42
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I like his impression of a 13 year old's bum fluff 'stashe.
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Old 03-12-2015, 03:58
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He's my least favourite candidate.

I simply don't like him. No, it's more than that, I can't stand him.

I don't even think he's very good, he has ego issues, and he has the type of boring monotone voice that makes him come across as very dull.

Is he the one who at the start of the series made out that he was a ladies man or something? I can't see it myself.
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Old 03-12-2015, 04:03
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Not sure if OP genuinely believes Joseph is "over-rated" or whether it's one of those fabricated "against the grain" opinions you often see

Na, in all seriousness I don't think he's done much overly special but he's certainly looked the best or at least top 2 or 3 best out of a very mediocre bunch

Don't see how he's particularly nasty to David? you have to be a bit of a pr1ck in the boardroom at times, it's part of the process really. David made a bad judgment error with measurements in the DIY task, which would have been much more detrimental but for Joseph's intervention.

I wouldn't place all that much weight on him being on the losing team often, in the first few weeks there was way too many on each team with both of them scattered with deadwood. I don't think he's overly contributed to any loss, bar last week at a real push. Mark lost a sh1tload of tasks last year iirc

As for the team voting Gary PM I just assume there was a lot more said that wasn't included in the edit. Gary had been hiding away in the background the previous few weeks and had never been a PM yet. Joseph had shone as a de facto PM the week previous. I'd have voted Gary myself- even if for tactical reasons in the case of a final BR

Overall I think Joseph is very hard-working, efficient and is a good leader. He seems like a pretty decent bloke too. Him and Richard have stood out the most to me, though Vana is growing by the week it seems

Think they're a long way ahead of the chasing pack
I don't think he is a good leader. He's one these 'it's my way or the highway' dictator type bosses who doesn't listen to his teammates. Which is partly the reason why they lost the latest task, and has been an approach which has been disastrous for other candidates this series too.
Good leaders don't act in a petulant manner when one of their team has a good idea which might be the best idea, and don't go all alpha male and turn it into a pissing contest when they feel insecure in the presence of another male contestant. I'm thinking of the earlier nonsense he had going on with Richard.
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Old 03-12-2015, 14:36
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Old 03-12-2015, 16:56
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I have a massive crush on him. Hope he goes into modelling or someone post-Apprentice
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Old 03-12-2015, 17:23
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He looks like a guy selling The Big Issue in your area.
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Old 03-12-2015, 17:34
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That moustache tho
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Old 03-12-2015, 19:14
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He's my least favourite candidate.

I simply don't like him. No, it's more than that, I can't stand him.

I don't even think he's very good, he has ego issues, and he has the type of boring monotone voice that makes him come across as very dull.

Is he the one who at the start of the series made out that he was a ladies man or something? I can't see it myself.
I don't like him either. He comes across really arrogant to me. I have a horrible feeling that he's won the show because of the nice edits he has been getting.
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Old 03-12-2015, 19:14
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His "style" reminds me of Flash Harry from St Trinian's.

I still would though, as long as he kept quiet.
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Old 03-12-2015, 22:56
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Sugar called him 'Super Mario' last night

Had to larf
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Old 03-12-2015, 23:08
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I think Joseph's performance last night hints that he's peaked too soon
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Old 04-12-2015, 00:25
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Are people actually rating him? I'm not aware...

He's ok IMO: pretty much what you see is what you get.
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Old 04-12-2015, 00:36
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He's done ok so far - he seems to have a lot of common sense regarding problems that arise but the last task really highlighted that lack of finesse and sophistication that he'll probably need if hes going to be Alans business partner.

And yeah its a weird look he's got going on.
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Old 04-12-2015, 11:00
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I think Joseph's performance last night hints that he's peaked too soon
You could have said the same for Mark in the last task before interviews last year

We're being led to believe it's a Vana/Richard final now, but a lot can change in even one task (and of course in the interviews one of them can completely crash and burn).

LS definitely likes Joseph, but it'll all come down to plans at the end of the day

this isn't the same as the old format where the two "best performing" candidates end up as the final 2 and one of them is offered a job. If it was we may aswell not bother with the next two weeks and just skip to the Richard/Vana final but one/both of them could have a complete non-runner of a plan
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Old 04-12-2015, 11:58
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He's my least favourite candidate.

I simply don't like him. No, it's more than that, I can't stand him.

I don't even think he's very good, he has ego issues, and he has the type of boring monotone voice that makes him come across as very dull.

Is he the one who at the start of the series made out that he was a ladies man or something? I can't see it myself.
He comes across to me as thick as pooh
His whiny voice
The way he dresses like some 1930s spiv. ...annoying
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Old 04-12-2015, 13:01
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I can't take him seriously with that pencil moustache!
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Old 04-12-2015, 13:45
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I think Joseph's performance last night hints that he's peaked too soon
I think that's more that in certain tasks he's out of his comfort zone and a bit out of his depth, though to be fair that applies to virtually every candidate. It's good that not all tasks are barrowboy-ish ones, involving flogging cheap tat.

Selling expensive property to foreign millionaires, he was clearly a bit lost, someone like Sam with his posh voice and manners would have been perfect, or going back in time someone like Raef...
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