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No you can buy iPads with different amounts of onboard storage. My iPad Air 2 came with 128GB of internal storage space. You don't need an SD card if you are willing to pay for more internal storage space.
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/comput...62990-pdt.html The iPad Air was also available in 128GB when it was first released. Aside from the huge price difference the OP wouldn't need to question storage needs with a Windows or Android tablet because you can buy one then see how you get on and easily and cheaply buy extra storage if and when you need. With Apple you have to make that choice when you buy the tablet and then you're stuck with it. Saying "you don't need an SD card if you are willing to pay for more internal storage space" is trying to suggest a huge disadvantage is actually a positive. The fact is you don't need to pay £160 for 112 GB extra storage when you can pay £30 for a 128GB SD card. The Linx with a 128GB micro SD card is literally a quarter of the cost of the iPad you linked to and has more storage (160GB, 128GB + 32GB) and does far more. It is simply a better tablet. If it was the same price as the iPad it would still be the better tablet. I would say I wish I had shares in Linx, but actually I wish I had shares in Apple. They make huge profits charging way over the odds for machines that lag behind their competitors in many areas. But people still queue up to buy them. |
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And pay £160 for the extra 112GB. When Windows and Android tablets let you add 128GB for £30. No wonder Apple made $55 billion profit this year...
Aside from the huge price difference the OP wouldn't need to question storage needs with a Windows or Android tablet because you can buy one then see how you get on and easily and cheaply buy extra storage if and when you need. With Apple you have to make that choice when you buy the tablet and then you're stuck with it. Saying "you don't need an SD card if you are willing to pay for more internal storage space" is trying to suggest a huge disadvantage is actually a positive. The fact is you don't need to pay £160 for 112 GB extra storage when you can pay £30 for a 128GB SD card. The Linx with a 128GB micro SD card is literally a quarter of the cost of the iPad you linked to and has more storage (160GB, 128GB + 32GB) and does far more. It is simply a better tablet. If it was the same price as the iPad it would still be the better tablet. I would say I wish I had shares in Linx, but actually I wish I had shares in Apple. They make huge profits charging way over the odds for machines that lag behind their competitors in many areas. But people still queue up to buy them. It depends on what you want. I don't want an android or Windows tablet. I've owned a few android tablets in the past and went down the SD card route. The iPad is by far better than any of the android tablets I've owned and I just have no interest in using Windows on tablet or at all really. It depends what you want. I use my tablet to surf the net, watch videos, listen to music and play games. I don't need it to run desktop apps and I don't want to be productive with it. If I want to be productive I'll get on my MacBook. On top of that I've had SD cards get corrupted in the past and on android not everything can be stored on the SD card, somethings need to be stored on the internal storage. Also internal storage is faster than an SD card. So there are some advantages to internal storage. All of my stuff is Apple (Mac, iPhone, Apple TV) so an iPad makes senses. However for some people a Windows or android tablet is the way to go. |
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It depends on what you want. I don't want an android or Windows tablet. I've owned a few android tablets in the past and went down the SD card route. The iPad is by far better than any of the android tablets I've owned and I just have no interest in using Windows on tablet or at all really. It depends what you want. I use my tablet to surf the net, watch videos, listen to music and play games. I don't need it to run desktop apps and I don't want to be productive with it. If I want to be productive I'll get on my MacBook.
On top of that I've had SD cards get corrupted in the past and on android not everything can be stored on the SD card, somethings need to be stored on the internal storage. Also internal storage is faster than an SD card. So there are some advantages to internal storage. All of my stuff is Apple (Mac, iPhone, Apple TV) so an iPad makes senses. However for some people a Windows or android tablet is the way to go. Plus SD cards corrupting I would suggest is far less common than tablets being dropped, sat on or otherwise broken. You are far more likely to find yourself with a smashed tablet and no way of getting your files off it, unless you have a SD card where all your documents are saved in which case you just take it out and have all your files safe and sound, which is precisely what happened to me when someone trod on my old Linx tablet. Had that been an iPad I'd have lost all my files. (Apple, Android and Windows all offer cloud backup, but they're all dependent on network, bandwidth etc.) I use my tablet for surfing the net, and use the 'PC' version of Chrome. Personally it is a significantly better tablet experience than using an iPad. Going back to the previous page by swiping right for example instead of having to tap the small back button on Safari. And having the full choice of extensions such as adblockers, video downloaders, proxy extensions to pretend you are in another country where content is geo-restricted and so on. While Chrome and Firefox are available on the iPad because of Apple's restrictions they are actually just skins over the Apple browser engine rather than actually Chrome or Firefox, and hence huge numbers of useful extensions and add ons are not available. So even for simple browsing Windows tablets offer many advantages over the iPad. The downside of the Linx is the speakers are a bit weak. But if audio is important then the Surface 3 has great sound and is £110 cheaper than the iPad Air2.. And you still get a full OS, bigger screen, the digitiser for drawing, the kickstand for watching movies and so on. Criticising Windows tablets because they can do more makes no sense. You don't have to use those features. If you bought the Linx and just used it as a tablet, surfed the net, watched movies etc then it will do everything the iPad can do. What are you getting for all that extra money for the iPad? |
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All valid points, but the OP asked if 16GB will "be enough". The simple answer is there is no way to know until you get it and see how you get on. With an iPad if you find out you need more storage you have no option. With an Android or Windows tablet you can simply add extra storage, and at a far lower price than what Apple charge.
Plus SD cards corrupting I would suggest is far less common than tablets being dropped, sat on or otherwise broken. You are far more likely to find yourself with a smashed tablet and no way of getting your files off it, unless you have a SD card where all your documents are saved in which case you just take it out and have all your files safe and sound, which is precisely what happened to me when someone trod on my old Linx tablet. Had that been an iPad I'd have lost all my files. (Apple, Android and Windows all offer cloud backup, but they're all dependent on network, bandwidth etc.) I use my tablet for surfing the net, and use the 'PC' version of Chrome. Personally it is a significantly better tablet experience than using an iPad. Going back to the previous page by swiping right for example instead of having to tap the small back button on Safari. And having the full choice of extensions such as adblockers, video downloaders, proxy extensions to pretend you are in another country where content is geo-restricted and so on. While Chrome and Firefox are available on the iPad because of Apple's restrictions they are actually just skins over the Apple browser engine rather than actually Chrome or Firefox, and hence huge numbers of useful extensions and add ons are not available. So even for simple browsing Windows tablets offer many advantages over the iPad. The downside of the Linx is the speakers are a bit weak. But if audio is important then the Surface 3 has great sound and is £110 cheaper than the iPad Air2.. And you still get a full OS, bigger screen, the digitiser for drawing, the kickstand for watching movies and so on. Criticising Windows tablets because they can do more makes no sense. You don't have to use those features. If you bought the Linx and just used it as a tablet, surfed the net, watched movies etc then it will do everything the iPad can do. What are you getting for all that extra money for the iPad? However having said all of that I understand that it's not worth the extra money for a lot of people. |
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Actually you can swipe left to go backwards in safari and right to go forwards. You've been able to do that since iOS 8. You can also use ad blockers as of iOS 9. I'm paying extra because I prefer iOS to Windows and I get access to the App Store and iTunes and it fits in with my other devices. All of my stuff is backed up to iCloud so my files and documents are safe if my iPad gets damaged and I can also see all my stuff on any of my iOS devices. If your device gets stolen you've lost all your stuff as your SD card goes with it. I once sold an android phone to mazuma and forgot to take out my SD card.
However having said all of that I understand that it's not worth the extra money for a lot of people. iTunes runs perfectly on Windows tablets if you want it. And as mentioned both Android and Windows have cloud backup. The features you list for iCloud are all on OneDrive. And having the exact same folders, settings and menu's on both your main PC and your tablet makes it easy to use since it is the exact same OS. When I first got and set up my Linx the first time it booted up it already had the wallpaper from my PC set, One Drive waiting for me and so on. With cloud backup your issue with corrupted SD cards is moot, isn't it? So what actual features does the iPad have over a Windows tablet? I've listed a bunch of things they have that the iPad doesn't. So what actual features do you get for that extra money? |
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So what actual features does the iPad have over a Windows tablet? I've listed a bunch of things they have that the iPad doesn't. So what actual features do you get for that extra money? |
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Which would seem to be a very good argument for getting a Windows or Android tablet. What Apple-only apps does the OP need to use to require spending twice as much?
Comparing specs of the iPad and the Linx I have, the Linx has a bigger screen, faster procesor, twice the RAM, twice the onboard storage with the ability to add another 128GB micro SD card for £50, and still cost £100 less than the 16GB iPad. And the Linx comes with a proper keyboard free and can run any Windows programs, not just restricted to apps like the iPad. If you're into games you can plug a proper X Box controller into one of the USB ports and play games. Plug an external monitor or your HDTV into the HDMI port and play movies on the big screen while surfing the net on the tablet or use it as a dual monitor PC, another feature no iPad can do, not even the iPad Pro. Use the desktop Windows 10 UI or switch to the tablet UI to get the nice big finger friendly tablet interface. And you can have user accounts so you can let your kids use it without them being able to read your emails or look at your photos, again not something any iPad can do. The iPad has a couple of advantages. The camera is far higher resolution for example. But if that's important and you're going to be taking lots of pics then the 12GB storage is quickly going to be a problem. And you can't install the proper full versions of Photoshop or Adobe programs which you can on the Linx, just cut down app versions. It's 2mm thinner and slightly lighter. Which is nice. But the higher spec processor, RAM, storage and screen size of the Linx justify the extra size and weight IMHO. So it comes down to what Apple-only apps does the OP need that justify spending so much money on a machine that does so much less? Apart from screen size is there much difference between the IPad Air 2 and the IPad Mini 4. Darren |
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Apart from screen size is there much difference between the IPad Air 2 and the IPad Mini 4.
Darren You can compare them all here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPad |
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You get something that is actually quite difficult to explain. The OS and the hardware on most Apple devices work very,very well together which makes everything very easy and seamless when in use which I've not found on any other devices from PC's to phones to tablets. It's a better (IMO) user experience most of the time.
iPad problems seem to be dismissed as isolated, minor, incidents while Windows problems are touted as proof that Windows is bug-ridden crap. The fact that it seems to be Apple copying Android and now Windows in many areas suggests they consider those features to be good. The original Surface was brilliant in the way you could navigate with swipe gestures, including swiping back a page which tok Apple two years to copy and multitasking that took Apple three years to copy, as did the keyboard lettering changing from upper to lower case, and the add on keyboard/cover, again a copy of the Surface (though still mising the trackpad). Yet to appear on iPad, even the Pro, are features like external second display, user accounts, proper USB ports (which is so convenient) and more. Someone on a forum praised the iPad for the ease of adding a printer, saying you just plugged it in, went to Add Printers, selected it and saved it. So I tried my then new Surface RT by plugging it in, for the very first time, to my HP laser printer. As I plugged in the USB lead I heard the Ding DingDingDing chime. I opened Word, opened a document, pressed Print and the HP was already listed as the default printer. How's that for seamless? Or when you connect the keyboard and it automatically changes to the desktop UI? Or just the fact that it has separate UI for tablet and keyboard use, while the iPad only has the touch UI? Even when multitasking the iPad blurs the apps when moving the slider, something that to a Windows user like myself looks really lame. You want to resize a window but you can't see the window while your doing it? How do you know when you have the size right? That is a noticeably inferior experience to Windows tablets, even my Linx costing a quarter of the price of an ipad. Other than "It just seems better" and screen resolution I have yet to see any actual feature that anyone can give to justify spending so much more on an iPad. Because I find my Windows tablet easy and seamless to use, as well as having lots of features the iPad doesn't. |
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I would suggest "ease of use" is due to familiarity. If you've owned an iPad for years and try a Windows or Android tablet of course it's going to be confusing. But I've owned a Windows tablet for a few years and when I try an iPad it's is just as clunky because it's different. But iPads are not immune to problems. Neither is iOS 9. just as Android and Windows aren't.
iPad problems seem to be dismissed as isolated, minor, incidents while Windows problems are touted as proof that Windows is bug-ridden crap. The fact that it seems to be Apple copying Android and now Windows in many areas suggests they consider those features to be good. The original Surface was brilliant in the way you could navigate with swipe gestures, including swiping back a page which tok Apple two years to copy and multitasking that took Apple three years to copy, as did the keyboard lettering changing from upper to lower case, and the add on keyboard/cover, again a copy of the Surface (though still mising the trackpad). Yet to appear on iPad, even the Pro, are features like external second display, user accounts, proper USB ports (which is so convenient) and more. Someone on a forum praised the iPad for the ease of adding a printer, saying you just plugged it in, went to Add Printers, selected it and saved it. So I tried my then new Surface RT by plugging it in, for the very first time, to my HP laser printer. As I plugged in the USB lead I heard the Ding DingDingDing chime. I opened Word, opened a document, pressed Print and the HP was already listed as the default printer. How's that for seamless? Or when you connect the keyboard and it automatically changes to the desktop UI? Or just the fact that it has separate UI for tablet and keyboard use, while the iPad only has the touch UI? Even when multitasking the iPad blurs the apps when moving the slider, something that to a Windows user like myself looks really lame. You want to resize a window but you can't see the window while your doing it? How do you know when you have the size right? That is a noticeably inferior experience to Windows tablets, even my Linx costing a quarter of the price of an ipad. Other than "It just seems better" and screen resolution I have yet to see any actual feature that anyone can give to justify spending so much more on an iPad. Because I find my Windows tablet easy and seamless to use, as well as having lots of features the iPad doesn't. Windows struggles as a tablet device due to it's desktop roots and is a bit of a mix. Although I did enjoy the Link 10 it's not an OS I'd want to stick with for a touchscreen only device. Apple copying Windows/Android. Well of course they would do. Android and Windows all borrow from each other and always will and always have done. If a rival has a good feature then you take it as well! I don't know why you want someone to justify paying more for an iPad as top spec Android tablets are just as expensive as the iPad? For me I have it as I enjoy the overall user experience of it, the available apps, the exemplary build quality and the reliability of the customer service from Apple. |
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'Ease of use' is certainly not due to familiarity - at least not for me. I have used many tablets over the years Android, Windows and iOS ones. It's not ease of use as such as I can use Android and Windows easily enough. My phone is Android and my PC is Windows 10. It's more a sense of a cohesive OS and hardware coming together in one device that moves along well and everything has a look that matches without ever coming across something that takes you out of that user experience. Android on Nexus devices is the closest that Android has come for me.
Windows struggles as a tablet device due to it's desktop roots and is a bit of a mix. Although I did enjoy the Link 10 it's not an OS I'd want to stick with for a touchscreen only device. Apple copying Windows/Android. Well of course they would do. Android and Windows all borrow from each other and always will and always have done. If a rival has a good feature then you take it as well! I don't know why you want someone to justify paying more for an iPad as top spec Android tablets are just as expensive as the iPad? For me I have it as I enjoy the overall user experience of it, the available apps, the exemplary build quality and the reliability of the customer service from Apple. I've used programs on a PC for years that had their own individual look and feel, why would it be a problem doing the same on a tablet? The popularity of jailbreaking iPhones shows that even iPhone owners want stuff outside Apple's walled garden. For a long time Apple didn't even allow tethering. Even today if you have music on your iPhone and want to set that as a rigntone Apple make you go to iTunes and pay for that song in ringtone form. (There is a workaround, and lots of videos on Youtube explaining the five minute long process for doing so.) On my Android phone? I click any audio track and select Set As Ringtone. Done. I view the variety and lack of conformity as a plus, not a disadvantage. I never need to worry whether Apple will chose to allow me to install an app. Or worry about them removing an app I already have. On Windows I can install anything I want. Again, the pro's for the iPad seem very vague. In lots of areas Windows is far more polished, the lack of blurring when sliding the multitask bar for example. Being able to plug in any standard USB device straight into the machine. The choice of tablet or desktop UI to match how I want to use the tablet. Being able to install any full desktop programs. The ability to install the exact same apps on my PC at home, like the Twitter app I keep open in the corner of one of my screens. Having user accounts so I can lend it to someone without worrying about them reading my emails. Being able to plug in a HDTV with a standard HDMI lead, great for if I'm in a hotel and want to watch a movie on the big screen, and still be able to check my emails on the tablet at the same time. All these features are on my £130 Windows tablet but none of them are on even the top of the range iPad Pro. |
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