Not sure that 11 points on Celeb Mastermind equates to "well-informed".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtI_T5NYUgw

I reckon all on her own she's the reason BBC3 was shut down!

Little looks like he's had a bath last night

Couple of potentially interesting topics on the cards this morning.

Should smoking ban be enforced in prisons?
Should men have the right to sign away parental rights, including having to pay child support, for children they didn't plan?

I really don't know how to answer either at this point.

Yes, but did you see the wet patches under his arms? manky

Good grief, pushing cyclists into canals?

What a moronic way to get your kicks.

Nope missed that, must have another look, the dirty blighter

He was waving his arms in the air, pity the ladies sat next to him

Men can only get "tricked, duped and conned" into fatherhood if they don't take responsibility for protection.
If you don't want to be a father protect yourself.

I think it's terrible for any woman to lie about contraception, it has happened to men I know.

Definitely not enough time devoted to this subject.

I agree, there wasn't. Sticking it in the five minute joke slot at the end was pathetic.

I'm at odds with your views though which seems to want both sides of the fence. Unless the man has a vasectomy which is pretty much 100% 'safe', his only other option is to use a rubber which most men and women will know is less 'safe' or reliable as the female contraceptive pill which is more than 99% 'safe'.

However the key to that is Trust with a capital T and that's where men have been duped or conned. It's more than 'terrible' for a woman to lie about taking the pill. It's nasty evil deceitfulness at the lowest level and remember, before dna came along many men ended up paying out years of child support for a child that wasn't even theirs. To me it's just as evil as a man deceiving his female partner who isn't taking the pill by claiming he's had a vasectomy when he hasn't.

Matthew also had it wrong about maintenance cut off being 18 years. It's not. It's paid out until the child either starts work or carries on further education with a max cut off point of 20 years so it doesn't take much to figure out that many mothers will push the child into useless college courses until 20 to ride that gravy train as long as she legally can.

I don't know if Storm's replacement was the same today as yesterday, but I was extremely impressed with her. She seems far too authoritative to command such a menial task.

I completely agree with the bolded and did underplay my feelings about deception regarding contraception, but I think you are coming at this discussion from the perspective of people in a relationship. What about people who aren't really in a relationship?
Lying about being on the pill doesn't only happen in long-term relationships where trust should be expected, but also casual flings, one night stands etc. where trust is anywhere from low-level to non-existent.
This is one of the reasons more time should have been devoted to the subject.
Does the situation change for long-term relationships as opposed to one night stands?
It's just a mess of potential scenarios. Does a blanket approach work where there are variables?

I actually agree with everything you've said, apart from the part about my view wanting both sides of the fence
I don't want to come off as flippant in arguing that men who don't want to be fathers should wear condoms. In a trusting relationship there should be no need for belt and braces to protect against pregnancy. I'm also trying to cover the scenario of those not in a relationship.
Regardless of whether condoms are less "safe" than contraceptive pills, they're a damn sight safer than no pill.
I agree that it's utterly deplorable to trick someone into becoming a parent.
We are on the same page there, despite how my previous comment read.

eta. Just read my previous post and it did sound incredibly flippant, as though women bear no responsibility if men are foolish enough to get caught.
That is not my opinion. Just responding to the discussion on screen. No context in that post at all.

Another case of ditching a big topic when they should've taken more calls after the break (about pain relief pills - they only got one call!) for a comparatively trivial one (Day off for dead doggie)

Maybe he reads posts on DS? He always looks a mess, but his hair at the beginning of the week was pure YUK!

Caught a few minutes of it today(off work, small matter of a local beer festival!), I thought 'Who let the tramp in?'.

He looked more as he used to do, when he had a small role as one of the tertiary sports journalists in The Program, but he mostly just blends into the background.

That's true, i was (bib) and hadn't given thought to casual flings or 'one nighters'. That said, the chances of a pregnancy from one night or one deed of intercourse has to be extremely slim. Not impossible, but much less than regular sex.

When i mentioned 'both sides of the fence', i wasn't quite sure where you stood on it as in the next para you mentioned you knew men this had happened to which you felt was 'terrible'.

The contraceptive pill is determined as being 'more than 99% safe' whilst condoms are at 98%. That's according to an NHS website i looked at yesterday.

From this post i can read you more clearly now and apologise for any misunderstandings on my part. You are right though, it's a shame this topic was given such little time and in a slot normally reserved for more light hearted matters. It deserved much more time for discussion.

Clean yesterday, not washed again today.
Take a look at his teeth. A reformed smoker he says, well he should visit a good hygienist as his lower set are brown.

No excuse, as Mitchum works for nearly everyone. If not, a Botox jab will cure sweat.

And now that the half hour plug for this charity is finished we can get back to the show.

Little is morphing into Father Jack (RIP) from father ted girls, f e c k , drink with a copy of the big issue.

And they gave obama a peace prize in 2009 for what?

Little is being sustainable by not going for a bath for a week.

THIRTEEN episodes, not 23! Perhaps that's why The Mirror fired him - Because he's clueless!

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Spiderman's dad next week (new Captain America trailer has the boy in it) along with Penny/Ollie Smith.

It might be handy for the panel to do some research on video blogging first before stating that people who do it need to be policed.

They honestly didn't have a clue what it was, yet they were saying this should be done, or that should be done, using the old Jeremy Kyle logic 'to protect the children'.

Great - Dominic Holland's sperm in my face!


Just hopeless topics today - Are vloggers evil, Kissing your kids on the lips (the picture of the Dad and the 8-year-old daughter looks very odd indeed), and I wasn't bothered about the main talking point.

Mark Little is a mess, appearing on live tv looking like that. The fact that his hair is back to looking dirty and greasy today, shows that it's just because he's not washing it. His nicotine stained teeth and sweaty appearance are unpleasant to see, it's laziness, everyone else manages to look clean.

He makes me feel sick,horrible man,he had the cheek to call the Queen earlier on in the week,give him a swift kick back to Aussie where he belongs.