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Old 12-12-2015, 16:33
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I think Anita is one of the best at interpretation and expression...
Fair enough. Watched dance is a very personal thing. If it works for you, it works for you
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Old 12-12-2015, 16:35
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Only if the dance is full on (& even then it's not to my taste), subtlety like in a VW or rumba is really not her forte
Agreed. She can sell dramatic dances very well - a lot of people liked her paso and AT (not keen personally but I can sort of see why) and I did like the ballroom tango she did.
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Old 12-12-2015, 16:36
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Fair enough. Watched dance is a very personal thing. If it works for you, it works for you
Yep. And I find Katie mesmerising

Really?? You all say! We never would have known because you have never mentioned it before!!
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Old 12-12-2015, 16:37
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Yes, my mistake. I always think of salsa as Cuban salsa.

And my "will" should have said "may"
Yes, me too - either Cuban or Colombian. The others are vague copies or versions which evolved in clubs, the most distorted being Cross-Body, which seems to have been picked up by the ballroom crowd

If you go to a proper salsa event in London or one of the Cuban live music/band events and say you do 'cross-body' people look at you in horror and back away
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Old 12-12-2015, 16:38
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Not wild about it either. When I was out in Cuba studying dance I came across it a lot. My young teachers (professional dancers with a national dance company) played it all the time.

Not only could I not get my body to do it, I loathed the lyrics, but the Cubans love it and they can dance it brilliantly. it is normal for them to add it to their salsa.
Yes, I know! They love it!
In Spainwas popular for a while, till people said wait a second the lyrics are awful!
Now there is still people who love it (played on certain radios all the time) but it's almost like a swear word itself reggaeton. Most people hate it. But mostly because of the lyrics.
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Old 12-12-2015, 16:39
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Yep. And I find Katie mesmerising

Really?? You all say! We never would have known because you have never mentioned it before!!
She's very elegant and long-limbed, which is always beautiful to see in motion. Beautiful legs (wish she'd point those feet more)
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Old 12-12-2015, 16:41
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Yep. And I find Katie mesmerising

Really?? You all say! We never would have known because you have never mentioned it before!!


She has to have one little sooperfan hiding in the corner

wear your Katie sooperfandom with pride! Do you want me to make you a badge?

You like who you like Hun and it's fine. Be a dull world if we all agreed. I like it when we don't all agree as it gives us something to talk about, and as long as it's humorous and good natured, it gives us all a new point of view.

Her foxtrot was the letdown of the series for me though, I was expecting perfection and was so underwhelmed.
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Old 12-12-2015, 16:43
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I guess interpretation and expression is subjective.
some people say Jay is bland, and I find him anything but bland!

To me Anita is the least elegant and the least musical, which makes sense considering that she has " never danced before".
because of that for me she is just the least pleasant to watch. I have liked many of her routines, but always in spite of her dancing. Thinking to myself, oh, I wished Georgia or Helen had done this and then I would 100% enjoy it. Otherwise I am distracted by the ungainly legs and feet (even arms like in the rumba).
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Old 12-12-2015, 16:44
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No, they really are not - and my view comes from my fairly lengthy experience in dance. Anita is the weakest, Kellie the least 'finished', Jay the most versatile and charismatic and Katie very elegant. All have flaws - which is to be expected - but Anita is the weakest in terms of technique, interpretation and expression.

And P.S. no one hates her.

You must also appreciate that this is the Non-Appreciation thread and, as such we are able to disagree and discuss whatever we think without being attacked for those views.

Not allowing others their opinions or constantly telling them they are wrong, is not in the spirit of this thread.

Happy to post our rules NAT for you if it will makes things clearer? They have been the same for 5 years - ever since this thread began.
Yes, exactly. Let's hope everyone follows the rule.
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Old 12-12-2015, 16:44
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Yep. And I find Katie mesmerising

Really?? You all say! We never would have known because you have never mentioned it before!!
Her tango is one my favourite dances of the series. Her VW was really excellent. I am hoping we are in for a treat tonight, we really should with a Waltz.
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Old 12-12-2015, 16:48
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I do too. It all seems half baked, she has pretty hands and does what she does with her face..but the rest of her body seems totally forgotten as if all the energy has gone into those two aspects and for me it's become samey, her core and legs are weak and I don't appreciate 30 seconds flaffing around before a dance starts, too much smoke and mirrors, I can't get sold on the hands and face alone and I find it difficult to believe that she can not improve somewhat....maybe she will tonight.
To me, Anita has learned/is learning to dance but she's not a dancer* <waits for Brandon Flowers moment to pass >.
There have been plenty of celebs starting from scratch who are dancers - like Mark Ramprakash - so the NDB thing is irrelevant. You can be a dancer but have NDB.

(* or, as the O/H put its - you can teach a man to swim - don't make him a fish)
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Old 12-12-2015, 16:50
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Yep. And I find Katie mesmerising

Really?? You all say! We never would have known because you have never mentioned it before!!
Rocks back in amazement
Don't just drop a bombshell like that out of the blue!
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Old 12-12-2015, 16:52
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Curious about salsa mixed with reggaeton? Can Glebby pull it off? Erm....

This is what it looks like with two of best dancers out there right now - this is salsathon.

Enjoy!
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Old 12-12-2015, 16:54
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Her tango is one my favourite dances of the series. Her VW was really excellent. I am hoping we are in for a treat tonight, we really should with a Waltz.
But sadly not with her Charleston. I hope I am wrong.
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Old 12-12-2015, 16:57
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It makes sense that Gleb would be attracted to reggaeton by the sound of it - some of his moves already look as though (as someone memorably said) "he's shagging the parquet" there's more than a touch of the sleazeball about his persona.
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Old 12-12-2015, 16:59
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Curious about salsa mixed with reggaeton? Can Glebby pull it off? Erm....

This is what it looks like with two of best dancers out there right now - this is salsathon.

Enjoy!
Thanks Sofs

Well, there's splits, clothes removal and floor bothering so ...
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Old 12-12-2015, 17:02
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Thanks Sofs

Well, there's splits, clothes removal and floor bothering so ...
I'm half expecting Gleb to strip down to a pair of leather pants, myself. And do himself some floor bothering injury.
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Old 12-12-2015, 17:05
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I'm half expecting Gleb to strip down to a pair of leather pants, myself. And do himself some floor bothering injury.
He could get splinters in some nasty places unless those leather pants are reinforced (codpiece?)
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Old 12-12-2015, 17:06
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Yes, exactly. Let's hope everyone follows the rule.

Yes let's hope no one comes into a non appreciation thread and tells people off for not appreciating their chosen celeb, now that would just be rude.

I am distinctly unappreciating the lack of Helen in tonight's programme, I feel it will be the poorer for it.

Mind you I have felt she was short changed by the whole programme, stupid music and never the best theme.
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Old 12-12-2015, 17:07
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He could get splinters in some nasty places unless those leather pants are reinforced (codpiece?)
Sparks could FLY, I tell ye

Ruin the floor most likely.

Perhaps he could spin around on the codpiece, like a floor level helicopter. That'll distract all right.
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Old 12-12-2015, 17:08
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I'm half expecting Gleb to strip down to a pair of leather pants, myself. And do himself some floor bothering injury.


Half expecting or praying?
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Old 12-12-2015, 17:09
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Half expecting or praying?
Definitely HOPING

The applause will be deafening and all the ten paddles will rise.

Anita will look fierce and oddly ungainly somewhere off to the side.
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Old 12-12-2015, 17:11
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Yes let's hope no one comes into a non appreciation thread and tells people off for not appreciating their chosen celeb, now that would just be rude.

I am distinctly unappreciating the lack of Helen in tonight's programme, I feel it will be the poorer for it.

Mind you I have felt she was short changed by the whole programme, stupid music and never the best theme.


I thought she had the best theme movie week (Marilyn) and Halloween, I wish I looked that hot covered in toilet roll

But you're right, there will be a quite petite Helen sized hole. I've missed her more on ITT though waiting for her fab own clothes. And guessing what length her hair will be
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Old 12-12-2015, 17:12
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To me, Anita has learned/is learning to dance but she's not a dancer* <waits for Brandon Flowers moment to pass >.
There have been plenty of celebs starting from scratch who are dancers - like Mark Ramprakash - so the NDB thing is irrelevant. You can be a dancer but have NDB.

(* or, as the O/H put its - you can teach a man to swim - don't make him a fish)
That is a good way of putting it. Makes complete sense to me.
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Old 12-12-2015, 17:13
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I thought she had the best theme movie week (Marilyn) and Halloween, I wish I looked that hot covered in toilet roll

But you're right, there will be a quite petite Helen sized hole. I've missed her more on ITT though waiting for her fab own clothes. And guessing what length her hair will be
Yes, we could have had the definite answer to whether tall girls can jive (we know tall guys can!) and probably a beautiful romantic AS.

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