Talking to my friend who is more of a casual viewer not a fanatic like me. She was furious on the night and said who did the judges think they were? She said it made her vote for Jay even more. I think the GBP aren't fools and went into overdrive voting for Jay.
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Originally Posted by marinamau:
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Exactly. I was a massive Ricky fan but even I was fine as the final went. They managed to make the final a feel good of some sorts.
To equate that final to this series, it's frankly really sad. (Not that you have Aggs.)”
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Exactly. I was a massive Ricky fan but even I was fine as the final went. They managed to make the final a feel good of some sorts.
To equate that final to this series, it's frankly really sad. (Not that you have Aggs.)”
Some celebs just truly perform unforgettable dances and get extra votes in the final because of that one dance (Chris H's Charleston, Kara's AS, Jay's jive). Ricky (QS) and Scott (Jive) were both really unlucky in their years imho and Nat's choreography for both celebs was brilliant. I really don't think this series recovered from "Jamelia-gate" tbh. The judges and the producers didn't like being called out for a dodgy dance-off decision and they went into petulant brat mode thereafter.
It's ironic that Mary Berry was at the SCD final as the SCD judges could learn a thing or two from Bake Off about treating the audience like intelligent adults. We may not all be dance experts but we know when we're being had over.
Originally Posted by MaggieMcGee:
“Good post. They way they treated Katie left a very bad taste in my mouth. I make no secret that she was my favourite but I knew she would never win. It was as though they wanted to break her graciousness. I'm glad they did not.”
“Good post. They way they treated Katie left a very bad taste in my mouth. I make no secret that she was my favourite but I knew she would never win. It was as though they wanted to break her graciousness. I'm glad they did not.”
Absolutely.
I wasn't a fan of Katie and I would have preferred Helen in the final, but Katie got there fair and square because the judges themselves chose to save her instead of Anita.
However Katie danced in the final, the very least the judges could have done would have been to have the decency to find something positive to say to her. It can't have been that hard, even if it was just "You look fabulous and well done for getting to the final". Being so unnecessarily nitpicky and bitchy to her just made them look like petulant arseholes, and fair play to Katie for having the class to ignore them.
Originally Posted by MaggieMcGee:
“Good post. They way they treated Katie left a very bad taste in my mouth. I make no secret that she was my favourite but I knew she would never win. It was as though they wanted to break her graciousness. I'm glad they did not.”
“Good post. They way they treated Katie left a very bad taste in my mouth. I make no secret that she was my favourite but I knew she would never win. It was as though they wanted to break her graciousness. I'm glad they did not.”
Exactly. They put Katie through and if they regretted that decision they shouldn't have tried to create the impression that she was responsible. The 'you're not as accomplished as the others' speech was wholly unnecessary. She never claimed she was and could never have been - you can't make up seven years worth of experience in 14 weeks. It's not a difficult or controversial concept to grasp, but one the judges seem to struggle with year after year.
Originally Posted by Tanzie:
“Absolutely.
I wasn't a fan of Katie and I would have preferred Helen in the final, but Katie got there fair and square because the judges themselves chose to save her instead of Anita.
However Katie danced in the final, the very least the judges could have done would have been to have the decency to find something positive to say to her. It can't have been that hard, even if it was just "You look fabulous and well done for getting to the final". Being so unnecessarily nitpicky and bitchy to her just made them look like petulant arseholes, and fair play to Katie for having the class to ignore them.”
“Absolutely.
I wasn't a fan of Katie and I would have preferred Helen in the final, but Katie got there fair and square because the judges themselves chose to save her instead of Anita.
However Katie danced in the final, the very least the judges could have done would have been to have the decency to find something positive to say to her. It can't have been that hard, even if it was just "You look fabulous and well done for getting to the final". Being so unnecessarily nitpicky and bitchy to her just made them look like petulant arseholes, and fair play to Katie for having the class to ignore them.”
I think Katie had long ago ceased to think her experience on Strictly was in any way about her. She fulfilled her expected role of getting Anton to the final and then probably couldn't care any more after that.
Originally Posted by coppertop1:
“And also gave scores to Helen on paso week which put her in danger thereby eliminating the only dancer capable of keeping up with the other 3.
I feel it's a bit of the judges reaping what they sowed and blaming the public for it.
You just know Anita would have had the you are awful treatment if it were her not Katie, and I don't beleive she would have had any chance of winning either the tide turned against her the week before she left, the never danced before had worn exceedingly thin
Whilst I am this subject why when the pros choreography is challenged does the bloody celeb who danced it to the best of their ability get marked down.
FFS this shows judging has been horrendously unfair this year”
“And also gave scores to Helen on paso week which put her in danger thereby eliminating the only dancer capable of keeping up with the other 3.
I feel it's a bit of the judges reaping what they sowed and blaming the public for it.
You just know Anita would have had the you are awful treatment if it were her not Katie, and I don't beleive she would have had any chance of winning either the tide turned against her the week before she left, the never danced before had worn exceedingly thin
Whilst I am this subject why when the pros choreography is challenged does the bloody celeb who danced it to the best of their ability get marked down.
FFS this shows judging has been horrendously unfair this year”
I do agree that if a pro doesn't choreograph enough content in or the dance is not recognisable for what it should be, then they should be marked down as it is a partnership & otherwise, it gives the pros a free reign to do whatever the hell they want choreographically.
I do feel that the criticism should be clearly directed at the pro for that though and that it needs to be more consistent, even on theme weeks.
Originally Posted by scout2006:
“Some celebs just truly perform unforgettable dances and get extra votes in the final because of that one dance (Chris H's Charleston, Kara's AS, Jay's jive). Ricky (QS) and Scott (Jive) were both really unlucky in their years imho and Nat's choreography for both celebs was brilliant. I really don't think this series recovered from "Jamelia-gate" tbh. The judges and the producers didn't like being called out for a dodgy dance-off decision and they went into petulant brat mode thereafter.
It's ironic that Mary Berry was at the SCD final as the SCD judges could learn a thing or two from Bake Off about treating the audience like intelligent adults. We may not all be dance experts but we know when we're being had over.”
“Some celebs just truly perform unforgettable dances and get extra votes in the final because of that one dance (Chris H's Charleston, Kara's AS, Jay's jive). Ricky (QS) and Scott (Jive) were both really unlucky in their years imho and Nat's choreography for both celebs was brilliant. I really don't think this series recovered from "Jamelia-gate" tbh. The judges and the producers didn't like being called out for a dodgy dance-off decision and they went into petulant brat mode thereafter.
It's ironic that Mary Berry was at the SCD final as the SCD judges could learn a thing or two from Bake Off about treating the audience like intelligent adults. We may not all be dance experts but we know when we're being had over.”
Agree totally with this.
Originally Posted by Kmc1978:
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I do feel that the criticism should be clearly directed at the pro for that though and that it needs to be more consistent, even on theme weeks.”
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I do feel that the criticism should be clearly directed at the pro for that though and that it needs to be more consistent, even on theme weeks.”
Do Strictly's in other countries have a two vote system, like content and execution? I'd love to see something like this, it would be fascinating to see but maybe expose the judges 'expertise' too much for their liking.
Originally Posted by MaggieMcGee:
“Good post. They way they treated Katie left a very bad taste in my mouth. I make no secret that she was my favourite but I knew she would never win. It was as though they wanted to break her graciousness. I'm glad they did not.”
“Good post. They way they treated Katie left a very bad taste in my mouth. I make no secret that she was my favourite but I knew she would never win. It was as though they wanted to break her graciousness. I'm glad they did not.”
Absolutely, and to her credit she behaved impeccably, whereas I'd have given them all the finger on my way up to Claudia.
The Kellie woz robbed outcry [if indeed there is one and it's not manufactured by the press] is ridiculous because she wasn't the best on the night and was pimped into top spot by the judges.
First dances Jay technically better than Kellie.
Showdances Kellie was more showy if thats the ciiterea.
Final dances Jay far better than that very basic side by side charleston of Kellie's
First dances Jay technically better than Kellie.
Showdances Kellie was more showy if thats the ciiterea.
Final dances Jay far better than that very basic side by side charleston of Kellie's
I definitely think they shouldn't mark the showdances. There are no rules and therefore, it's going to come down to subjectivity. Unlike the usual dances when there is at least a semblance of required content, the showdances can be whatever the pro wants. Marking this seems a bit daft, particularly if you're going to mark down something that was danced well simply because it didn't fit your own ideal.
To be frank, I don't think they should dance the showdances either. But that's a whole different can of worms.
To be frank, I don't think they should dance the showdances either. But that's a whole different can of worms.
Originally Posted by scout2006:
“Absolutely, and to her credit she behaved impeccably, whereas I'd have given them all the finger on my way up to Claudia.”
“Absolutely, and to her credit she behaved impeccably, whereas I'd have given them all the finger on my way up to Claudia.”
Nice to see there's something on which we agree.
She showed them for what they were/are by behaving as she had throughout. I'm biased but I believe she was better than they credited her, not that it matters now. So once more, happy Christmas!
Originally Posted by Second_Banana:
“Exactly. They put Katie through and if they regretted that decision they shouldn't have tried to create the impression that she was responsible. The 'you're not as accomplished as the others' speech was wholly unnecessary. She never claimed she was and could never have been - you can't make up seven years worth of experience in 14 weeks. It's not a difficult or controversial concept to grasp, but one the judges seem to struggle with year after year.”
“Exactly. They put Katie through and if they regretted that decision they shouldn't have tried to create the impression that she was responsible. The 'you're not as accomplished as the others' speech was wholly unnecessary. She never claimed she was and could never have been - you can't make up seven years worth of experience in 14 weeks. It's not a difficult or controversial concept to grasp, but one the judges seem to struggle with year after year.”
I don't understand some of the judging decisions this series. There has often been some dubious moments but the level of inconsistency is concerning because they decide who goes onward each week.
Originally Posted by Tanzie:
“Absolutely.
I wasn't a fan of Katie and I would have preferred Helen in the final, but Katie got there fair and square because the judges themselves chose to save her instead of Anita.
However Katie danced in the final, the very least the judges could have done would have been to have the decency to find something positive to say to her. It can't have been that hard, even if it was just "You look fabulous and well done for getting to the final". Being so unnecessarily nitpicky and bitchy to her just made them look like petulant arseholes, and fair play to Katie for having the class to ignore them.”
“Absolutely.
I wasn't a fan of Katie and I would have preferred Helen in the final, but Katie got there fair and square because the judges themselves chose to save her instead of Anita.
However Katie danced in the final, the very least the judges could have done would have been to have the decency to find something positive to say to her. It can't have been that hard, even if it was just "You look fabulous and well done for getting to the final". Being so unnecessarily nitpicky and bitchy to her just made them look like petulant arseholes, and fair play to Katie for having the class to ignore them.”
Yes. I think the Georgia versus Helen was a tough call especially as Helen had the more challenging dance but they decided 3-1 to pick Katie. I know that Craig did not pick Katie and was the most vociferous with hie 'you're not to the same standard' but that's unfair to inflict up[on any celeb who has been put there by a mix of public and judges marks/votes.
Originally Posted by marinamau:
“I believe that is just quoting what both Craig and Darcey said in the ITT the winner interview said.
And to be honest, it was a bit of Jeremy Vine leading question that led to that. (I am giving him the benefit of the doubt and assume he didn't mean it and was a rush job)
If a rumba had to take place on the final, it should have been either Katie's or Jay's (glad he didn't though it would have been better than the QS).
bib totally. Not only on the final but throughout. If someone should have been pimped out, it should have been her.
K
I choose to believe that Darcey actually is happy with Jay winning. I truly can't accept that someone like her who throughout has championed Jay in sorts, she had a change of heart on one or two nights and her preference was for a competent but without inner elegance dancing. Had it been Georgia or Helen that she said that about, I would have believed her.”
“I believe that is just quoting what both Craig and Darcey said in the ITT the winner interview said.
And to be honest, it was a bit of Jeremy Vine leading question that led to that. (I am giving him the benefit of the doubt and assume he didn't mean it and was a rush job)
If a rumba had to take place on the final, it should have been either Katie's or Jay's (glad he didn't though it would have been better than the QS).
bib totally. Not only on the final but throughout. If someone should have been pimped out, it should have been her.
K
I choose to believe that Darcey actually is happy with Jay winning. I truly can't accept that someone like her who throughout has championed Jay in sorts, she had a change of heart on one or two nights and her preference was for a competent but without inner elegance dancing. Had it been Georgia or Helen that she said that about, I would have believed her.”
IT was the only Latin Katie did well though, Jay had loads of Latins he did well. I just don't want to see them humiliated, so I'd have happily watched Katie's rumba again or a tidied up AT as that's neither ballroom or Latin really.
Originally Posted by smude:
“The Kellie woz robbed outcry [if indeed there is one and it's not manufactured by the press] is ridiculous because she wasn't the best on the night and was pimped into top spot by the judges.
First dances Jay technically better than Kellie.
Showdances Kellie was more showy if thats the ciiterea.
Final dances Jay far better than that very basic side by side charleston of Kellie's”
“The Kellie woz robbed outcry [if indeed there is one and it's not manufactured by the press] is ridiculous because she wasn't the best on the night and was pimped into top spot by the judges.
First dances Jay technically better than Kellie.
Showdances Kellie was more showy if thats the ciiterea.
Final dances Jay far better than that very basic side by side charleston of Kellie's”
A - bloody - men.
Thanks. smude and that is my problem in a nutshell, our belief judges' scores is at an all-time low (even if papers take it as fact). You shouldn't have taught us what to look for, you shouldn't have made us an informed viewership because we can now recognise when we're having the piss taken out of us.
Dry ice - footwork is crap
Bare chested male pro - dance is crap
Ola catsuit - dance is crap
Props - dance is crap
Kevin - dance is overblown, overscored crap
And how many times have we shrieked this series that the scoreboard is in the wrong order? Usually we all comforted ourselves with ridiculous scores when leaderboard was pretty much right, we haven't even be able to say that this year.
Originally Posted by Kmc1978:
“I do agree that if a pro doesn't choreograph enough content in or the dance is not recognisable for what it should be, then they should be marked down as it is a partnership & otherwise, it gives the pros a free reign to do whatever the hell they want choreographically.
I do feel that the criticism should be clearly directed at the pro for that though and that it needs to be more consistent, even on theme weeks.”
“I do agree that if a pro doesn't choreograph enough content in or the dance is not recognisable for what it should be, then they should be marked down as it is a partnership & otherwise, it gives the pros a free reign to do whatever the hell they want choreographically.
I do feel that the criticism should be clearly directed at the pro for that though and that it needs to be more consistent, even on theme weeks.”
Originally Posted by Kmc1978:
“I do agree that if a pro doesn't choreograph enough content in or the dance is not recognisable for what it should be, then they should be marked down as it is a partnership & otherwise, it gives the pros a free reign to do whatever the hell they want choreographically.
I do feel that the criticism should be clearly directed at the pro for that though and that it needs to be more consistent, even on theme weeks.”
“I do agree that if a pro doesn't choreograph enough content in or the dance is not recognisable for what it should be, then they should be marked down as it is a partnership & otherwise, it gives the pros a free reign to do whatever the hell they want choreographically.
I do feel that the criticism should be clearly directed at the pro for that though and that it needs to be more consistent, even on theme weeks.”
Agree. My problem isn't the judges picking up on problems with content/ choreography. It's incredibly harsh on the contestant, who is penalised even if they execute what they are given impeccably, but unavoidable. They can only mark what they see. With Jay and Aliona/Anita and Gleb for example, they couldn't praise them for the showdance/salsa that could've been but wasn't. (Although leniency is required if music choices beyond their control preclude content - e.g. the Kellie/Kevin hip-hop samba/ Anita and Gleb Pitbull salsa ... heck, even the Carol rumba to 'I think I love you')
My problem's the lack of consistency. Len's comments about American Smooth-esque Foxtrots would be valid... had he not happily ignored Kellie's Viennese Waltz-less Viennese-Waltz, the Peter Jive and countless other examples. It's unfair and it leaves the pros in a tricky position - how do they know what they can and can't choreograph if the rules change depending on which week it is/which couple the judges are marking.
Rules that are inconsistently applied don't achieve much more than rules that are abandoned altogether.
Originally Posted by Alli-F:
“IT was the only Latin Katie did well though, Jay had loads of Latins he did well. I just don't want to see them humiliated, so I'd have happily watched Katie's rumba again or a tidied up AT as that's neither ballroom or Latin really.”
“IT was the only Latin Katie did well though, Jay had loads of Latins he did well. I just don't want to see them humiliated, so I'd have happily watched Katie's rumba again or a tidied up AT as that's neither ballroom or Latin really.”
Katie's jive was decent too.
Originally Posted by Alli-F:
“A - bloody - men.
Thanks. smude and that is my problem in a nutshell, our belief judges' scores is at an all-time low (even if papers take it as fact). You shouldn't have taught us what to look for, you shouldn't have made us an informed viewership because we can now recognise when we're having the piss taken out of us.
Dry ice - footwork is crap
Bare chested male pro - dance is crap
Ola catsuit - dance is crap
Props - dance is crap
Kevin - dance is overblown, overscored crap
And how many times have we shrieked this series that the scoreboard is in the wrong order? Usually we all comforted ourselves with ridiculous scores when leaderboard was pretty much right, we haven't even be able to say that this year.”
“A - bloody - men.
Thanks. smude and that is my problem in a nutshell, our belief judges' scores is at an all-time low (even if papers take it as fact). You shouldn't have taught us what to look for, you shouldn't have made us an informed viewership because we can now recognise when we're having the piss taken out of us.
Dry ice - footwork is crap
Bare chested male pro - dance is crap
Ola catsuit - dance is crap
Props - dance is crap
Kevin - dance is overblown, overscored crap
And how many times have we shrieked this series that the scoreboard is in the wrong order? Usually we all comforted ourselves with ridiculous scores when leaderboard was pretty much right, we haven't even be able to say that this year.”
Even more than that, we'd been able to predict the leaderboard positions depending on who we thought they wanted out of harms way or in the drop zone - and been right just about every time. Who needs the celebs to actually dance 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Originally Posted by Alli-F:
“A - bloody - men.
Thanks. smude and that is my problem in a nutshell, our belief judges' scores is at an all-time low (even if papers take it as fact). You shouldn't have taught us what to look for, you shouldn't have made us an informed viewership because we can now recognise when we're having the piss taken out of us.
Dry ice - footwork is crap
Bare chested male pro - dance is crap
Ola catsuit - dance is crap
Props - dance is crap
Kevin - dance is overblown, overscored crap
And how many times have we shrieked this series that the scoreboard is in the wrong order? Usually we all comforted ourselves with ridiculous scores when leaderboard was pretty much right, we haven't even be able to say that this year.”
“A - bloody - men.
Thanks. smude and that is my problem in a nutshell, our belief judges' scores is at an all-time low (even if papers take it as fact). You shouldn't have taught us what to look for, you shouldn't have made us an informed viewership because we can now recognise when we're having the piss taken out of us.
Dry ice - footwork is crap
Bare chested male pro - dance is crap
Ola catsuit - dance is crap
Props - dance is crap
Kevin - dance is overblown, overscored crap
And how many times have we shrieked this series that the scoreboard is in the wrong order? Usually we all comforted ourselves with ridiculous scores when leaderboard was pretty much right, we haven't even be able to say that this year.”
I love you Alli!
Originally Posted by Second_Banana:
“Agree. My problem isn't the judges picking up on problems with content/ choreography. It's incredibly harsh on the contestant, who is penalised even if they execute what they are given impeccably, but unavoidable. They can only mark what they see. With Jay and Aliona/Anita and Gleb for example, they couldn't praise them for the showdance/salsa that could've been but wasn't. (Although leniency is required if music choices beyond their control preclude content - e.g. the Kellie/Kevin hip-hop samba/ Anita and Gleb Pitbull salsa ... heck, even the Carol rumba to 'I think I love you')
My problem's the lack of consistency. Len's comments about American Smooth-esque Foxtrots would be valid... had he not happily ignored Kellie's Viennese Waltz-less Viennese-Waltz, the Peter Jive and countless other examples. It's unfair and it leaves the pros in a tricky position - how do they know what they can and can't choreograph if the rules change depending on which week it is/which couple the judges are marking.
Rules that are inconsistently applied don't achieve much more than rules that are abandoned altogether.”
“Agree. My problem isn't the judges picking up on problems with content/ choreography. It's incredibly harsh on the contestant, who is penalised even if they execute what they are given impeccably, but unavoidable. They can only mark what they see. With Jay and Aliona/Anita and Gleb for example, they couldn't praise them for the showdance/salsa that could've been but wasn't. (Although leniency is required if music choices beyond their control preclude content - e.g. the Kellie/Kevin hip-hop samba/ Anita and Gleb Pitbull salsa ... heck, even the Carol rumba to 'I think I love you')
My problem's the lack of consistency. Len's comments about American Smooth-esque Foxtrots would be valid... had he not happily ignored Kellie's Viennese Waltz-less Viennese-Waltz, the Peter Jive and countless other examples. It's unfair and it leaves the pros in a tricky position - how do they know what they can and can't choreograph if the rules change depending on which week it is/which couple the judges are marking.
Rules that are inconsistently applied don't achieve much more than rules that are abandoned altogether.”
Think there needs to be a big sign in the pro's dressing room
"You only get away with it if your name is Kevin" and in very small writing "or it's a theme week" 🙄🙄🙄
Originally Posted by Second_Banana:
“Agree. My problem isn't the judges picking up on problems with content/ choreography. It's incredibly harsh on the contestant, who is penalised even if they execute what they are given impeccably, but unavoidable. They can only mark what they see. With Jay and Aliona/Anita and Gleb for example, they couldn't praise them for the showdance/salsa that could've been but wasn't. (Although leniency is required if music choices beyond their control preclude content - e.g. the Kellie/Kevin hip-hop samba/ Anita and Gleb Pitbull salsa ... heck, even the Carol rumba to 'I think I love you')
My problem's the lack of consistency. Len's comments about American Smooth-esque Foxtrots would be valid... had he not happily ignored Kellie's Viennese Waltz-less Viennese-Waltz, the Peter Jive and countless other examples. It's unfair and it leaves the pros in a tricky position - how do they know what they can and can't choreograph if the rules change depending on which week it is/which couple the judges are marking.
Rules that are inconsistently applied don't achieve much more than rules that are abandoned altogether.”
“Agree. My problem isn't the judges picking up on problems with content/ choreography. It's incredibly harsh on the contestant, who is penalised even if they execute what they are given impeccably, but unavoidable. They can only mark what they see. With Jay and Aliona/Anita and Gleb for example, they couldn't praise them for the showdance/salsa that could've been but wasn't. (Although leniency is required if music choices beyond their control preclude content - e.g. the Kellie/Kevin hip-hop samba/ Anita and Gleb Pitbull salsa ... heck, even the Carol rumba to 'I think I love you')
My problem's the lack of consistency. Len's comments about American Smooth-esque Foxtrots would be valid... had he not happily ignored Kellie's Viennese Waltz-less Viennese-Waltz, the Peter Jive and countless other examples. It's unfair and it leaves the pros in a tricky position - how do they know what they can and can't choreograph if the rules change depending on which week it is/which couple the judges are marking.
Rules that are inconsistently applied don't achieve much more than rules that are abandoned altogether.”
Absolutely.
I don't mind overmarking or undermarking, as long as it applies to everyone across the board, but it just doesn't. And more often than not, the comments seem to bear no correlation whatsoever to the scores.
I've seen Craig tell one celeb that they effed up the choreography, forgot half the routine and had ugly thumbs and score them 7, then tell the next celeb that they were marvellous-darling and score them 7 as well.
As Bruno would say, it's complete ballcocks.
Originally Posted by Alli-F:
“Think there needs to be a big sign in the pro's dressing room
"You only get away with it if your name is Kevin" and in very small writing "or it's a theme week" 🙄🙄🙄”
“Think there needs to be a big sign in the pro's dressing room
"You only get away with it if your name is Kevin" and in very small writing "or it's a theme week" 🙄🙄🙄”
In even smaller writing: or if you are the series non-dancer / trier, up until the point we decide we don't need a non-dancer / trier anymore. Then we will make mincemeat out of you.
What I don't get is that the lack of awareness that the public can see the inconsistencies. Personally, I can almost accept that Craig's drinking buddy would get preferential treatment and scores but, if I was him, I'd be more careful about adjusting the way I behaved with everyone else too. It's the extremes of over-praising and real nastiness that get me, not necessarily the unfairness.
Len seems to have the memory of a goldfish and it's 50/50 whether he remembers to put on the 'charm' or show his true colours.
Len seems to have the memory of a goldfish and it's 50/50 whether he remembers to put on the 'charm' or show his true colours.
Originally Posted by coppertop1:
“And also gave scores to Helen on paso week which put her in danger thereby eliminating the only dancer capable of keeping up with the other 3.
I feel it's a bit of the judges reaping what they sowed and blaming the public for it.
You just know Anita would have had the you are awful treatment if it were her not Katie, and I don't beleive she would have had any chance of winning either the tide turned against her the week before she left, the never danced before had worn exceedingly thin.
FFS this shows judging has been horrendously unfair this year”
“And also gave scores to Helen on paso week which put her in danger thereby eliminating the only dancer capable of keeping up with the other 3.
I feel it's a bit of the judges reaping what they sowed and blaming the public for it.
You just know Anita would have had the you are awful treatment if it were her not Katie, and I don't beleive she would have had any chance of winning either the tide turned against her the week before she left, the never danced before had worn exceedingly thin.
FFS this shows judging has been horrendously unfair this year”
What perhaps annoyed me most about Helen was Craig's whole 'its not the judge's fault' rant - when they had ranked her second from bottom. If they don't see that as putting someone in danger then they're morons. Likewise if he couldn't see that criticising Anita would get her sympathy votes, thus putting Helen in even greater danger, they're doubly stupid!
Originally Posted by perdiedumpling:
“For me, it was "Katie, you're shit. Kellie, you're great. Jay, you shouldn't have won" that annoyed. If someone is a finalist, they're good at some level (unless you're Mark Wright) so some praise is needed, even if faint.”
“For me, it was "Katie, you're shit. Kellie, you're great. Jay, you shouldn't have won" that annoyed. If someone is a finalist, they're good at some level (unless you're Mark Wright) so some praise is needed, even if faint.”
Awww poor Mark... I actually liked him! I don't care what anyone says he was a hell of a lot better than Andre!
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