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They could make the final fairer by not having the Judges' choice but having one set dance and music for all the finalists followed by their favourite and maybe a show dance . Judges' comments if they have to on the set dance and favourite but not the show dance, no marks on any of them.
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#5277 |
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Fairer/boring.
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Just make it viewer's choice (you'd have all got the jive then) or highest scoring Ballroom and Latin. Done. We didn't need to see Aliona attempt to make a QS out of 'My Generation' or a mod con Tango ever again.
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Just make it viewer's choice (you'd have all got the jive then) or highest scoring Ballroom and Latin. Done. We didn't need to see Aliona attempt to make a QS out of 'My Generation' or a mod con Tango ever again.
But then you'd have fans of others sabotaging the vote, especially if it's close. You could have ended up with Jay's AS or onesof Kellie's bottom 2 dances. You would get a much better show by picking their best scoring ballroom & Latin |
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But then you'd have fans of others sabotaging the vote, especially if it's close. You could have ended up with Jay's AS or onesof Kellie's bottom 2 dances.
You would get a much better show by picking their best scoring ballroom & Latin |
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It's a shame that the ramping up off the spectacle has left things like this - back in the day one of my favourite showdances was basically just Julian doing the rumba in a silly hat.
But they're clearly pushing the pros to try to match the nonsense the show itself is pushing on the pros earlier in the series, and with the lower budgets they're getting, they can't do it. |
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But then you'd have fans of others sabotaging the vote, especially if it's close. You could have ended up with Jay's AS or onesof Kellie's bottom 2 dances.
You would get a much better show by picking their best scoring ballroom & Latin I do think a public vote would be equally contentious because, as you say, fans can always sabotage each other...I'm not sure there is a solution to avoiding upset and finger pointing. |
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Just let the couples choose one latin and one ballroom each and let them get on with it.
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Just let the couples choose one latin and one ballroom each and let them get on with it.
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Just let the couples choose one latin and one ballroom each and let them get on with it.
Either that or just have one 'favourite' dance and one new dance and leave it at that.Pretty much anything is better than judge's choice though! |
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The Kellie woz robbed outcry [if indeed there is one and it's not manufactured by the press] is ridiculous because she wasn't the best on the night and was pimped into top spot by the judges.
First dances Jay technically better than Kellie. Showdances Kellie was more showy if thats the ciiterea. Final dances Jay far better than that very basic side by side charleston of Kellie's Jay's paso did stand out against the 2 charlestons though, and obviously for Craig there was only one way that was going to end!
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Just let the couples choose one latin and one ballroom each and let them get on with it.
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I'd be happy with one ballroom, one Latin ( both favourites, no judges' choice) and the dance they haven't done. Then we'd get a new dance without the shapelessness of the showdances. That way if you voted someone to the final you'd see them do all the dances. i don't think I'd want a final that had nothing new in it.
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I'd be happy with one ballroom, one Latin ( both favourites, no judges' choice) and the dance they haven't done. Then we'd get a new dance without the shapelessness of the showdances. That way if you voted someone to the final you'd see them do all the dances. i don't think I'd want a final that had nothing new in it.
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But that'd be too easy and no controversy at all. That really wouldn't do at all ..........no, no.
Fair??
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OK how about this... all of their dances (jive, waltz etc.) are written down on pieces of paper which are then put into a giant hat and pulled out by a capuchin monkey, whilst the names of the contestants to perform them are selected in similar fashion by a lemur. Oh, and if anyone trips over they are immediately eliminated and their place in the final is taken by Peter 'Can I Just Say' Andre.
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You could do that with a selection of songs we would probably get songs that fitted with the dance better than we did this year
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Yeah! This. You could even stipulate that one dance is their fave and one is a dance they feel they can improve. At least it would be there choice to pick their lowest scoring dance or one with a mistake.
I think the whole point is to stay away from the "trying to improve" dances and you get the best that each did. The final was a downer because none of the judges' choices to improve worked, the music, the styling, the averageness of them all anyway just didn't work. It also might encourage judges to score them properly knowing the highest scoring would be done in final. But I'd be happy for them to do missing dance, maybe even with added lifts if they want. |
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I think the whole point is to stay away from the "trying to improve" dances and you get the best that each did. The final was a downer because none of the judges' choices to improve worked, the music, the styling, the averageness of them all anyway just didn't work.
It also might encourage judges to score them properly knowing the highest scoring would be done in final. But I'd be happy for them to do missing dance, maybe even with added lifts if they want. It's just the judges having a say that bothers me. GG would probably have picked their Samba which scored highly anyway. I'd have no problem with the dances they want to improve being highly scored ones, just that they think they can do better. |
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I get your point but J&A chose the Paso cos they felt they could improve it and that was fantastic.
It's just the judges having a say that bothers me. GG would probably have picked their Samba which scored highly anyway. I'd have no problem with the dances they want to improve being highly scored ones, just that they think they can do better. |
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I get your point but J&A chose the Paso cos they felt they could improve it and that was fantastic.
It's just the judges having a say that bothers me. GG would probably have picked their Samba which scored highly anyway. I'd have no problem with the dances they want to improve being highly scored ones, just that they think they can do better. Even with 2 dances previously done, and a Showdance that has to have been worked on before the final week it's still too much to expect them to be polished up to the required shineyness when the are having to meet the PM and be on ITT and all the other shows that need to ask them the same questions. |
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I'd have loved to have seen the Charleston again. The complexity of that routine plus the intricate footwork was outstanding. Dodgy drop aside it was very possibly the best executed Charleston on Strictly.
I would choose that one too, my favourite charleston ever with the best technique ever. Quote:
I'd also cut down the amount of PR-ing and promotion the actual finalists have to do in the last week.
Even with 2 dances previously done, and a Showdance that has to have been worked on before the final week it's still too much to expect them to be polished up to the required shineyness when the are having to meet the PM and be on ITT and all the other shows that need to ask them the same questions. That way, at least you get more interesting stories too, rather than "I want to win because it would make my family so proud" stories we get now. The only trouble is the Andre might turn up unexpectedly, but he's too lazy to put in or for others. ![]() They could even chat with finalists and release that, but the week is too tiring now that the whole press thing is so much bigger. If I was feeling really cruel, and I am, I'd make them all dance to music that one of the other finalists did, so Katie could rumba to Georgia's, Kellie could jive to Jay's, Georgia could AT to Katie's and Jay could charleston to Kellie's. They can all change the choreography but they owe us carnage after the QSathon (this is just a joke before outrage pours in)
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If I was feeling really cruel, and I am, I'd make them all dance to music that one of the other finalists did, so Katie could rumba to Georgia's, Kellie could jive to Jay's, Georgia could AT to Katie's and Jay could charleston to Kellie's. They can all change the choreography but they owe us carnage after the QSathon (this is just a joke before outrage pours in) ![]() *this is a an entirely terrible idea The QSathon was such a letdown, I think there was one near clash and nothing else. I wanted murder on the dancefloor
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I agree. It's one of those soundbites that gets cut and pasted and all context removed. Darcey meant every word she said to Jay.
I totally agree about the removing the judges choice from the final, shouldn't it be a celebration of what's good and not rehashing mistakes. I'm not even a fan of repeating a winning dance either (I agree with Jaliona here) because it's rarely contains the same magic. Not sure what they can give them to do unless it's just two new dances. I wouldn't mind seeing a proper ballroom dance in the final to sort out the wheat from the chaff - all Fred and Ginge... And don't design the final to leave one couple not performing a dance they'll have spent precious time practising. It's just rude not to have seen Katie's VW. |
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I think the final should be just two dances; after 13 weeks they're too knackered for three. One could be a public vote from the previous weeks' dances (thanks to Marianka Swain for that idea) and the other a Show Dance (even though there has only ever been two good show dances in the history of the show I live in hope of there being a third one).
And don't design the final to leave one couple not performing a dance they'll have spent precious time practising. It's just rude not to have seen Katie's VW. |
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Either that or just have one 'favourite' dance and one new dance and leave it at that.
