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This is Most Definitely Not An Appreciation Thread - Part 23
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DiamondDoll
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by aggs:
“I'd also cut down the amount of PR-ing and promotion the actual finalists have to do in the last week.

Even with 2 dances previously done, and a Showdance that has to have been worked on before the final week it's still too much to expect them to be polished up to the required shineyness when the are having to meet the PM and be on ITT and all the other shows that need to ask them the same questions.”

That is such a valid point aggs.
Its one I certainly hadn't considered before.
DeltaBlues
23-12-2015
It's never going to happen though - the whole point of the show is to increase ratings for the Beeb and they see the big PR push for the final as an integral part of the ratings chasing. They couldn't give a stuff if the dances are a bit half-arsed as a result.
Noone
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by dippydancing:
“I think the final should be just two dances; after 13 weeks they're too knackered for three. One could be a public vote from the previous weeks' dances (thanks to Marianka Swain for that idea) and the other a Show Dance (even though there has only ever been two good show dances in the history of the show I live in hope of there being a third one).

And don't design the final to leave one couple not performing a dance they'll have spent precious time practising. It's just rude not to have seen Katie's VW.”

Couldn't agree more.

I was even wondering if one dance for all finalists could have the same piece of music or be the same dance style but logistically and for 'entertainment' value it's not going to happen. Even so, I'd be interested to see a more direct comparison between couples in the final and with no voting from the judges.

I was trying to think last night, and sorry if I've missed this on the thread, but have the judges ever been so vocal in their support of a particular celeb? I can't remember it happening. All I know is that in past series the judges favourite seem to be doomed to be the public's least favourite and I'm quite surprised they have cottoned on to this yet.

Originally Posted by DeltaBlues:
“It's never going to happen though - the whole point of the show is to increase ratings for the Beeb and they see the big PR push for the final as an integral part of the ratings chasing. They couldn't give a stuff if the dances are a bit half-arsed as a result.”

This is probably exactly why Kellie was so popular with the judges on the night, like her or not, her dances had a surface clarity and 'energy'. Oh, and I'm pretty slow on the uptake but I had no idea that Strictly was based on They Shoot Horses Don't They? and the person with the most pep to stand and grin at the end is the rightful winner.
tortoiseperson
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by dippydancing:
“And don't design the final to leave one couple not performing a dance they'll have spent precious time practising. It's just rude not to have seen Katie's VW.”

Absolutely! it's dispiriting for the couple and disappointing for the public.
aggs
23-12-2015
And it was exactly that thinking which gave us Bacofoil and so for that reason should always be allowed to happen
aggs
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by DeltaBlues:
“It's never going to happen though - the whole point of the show is to increase ratings for the Beeb and they see the big PR push for the final as an integral part of the ratings chasing. They couldn't give a stuff if the dances are a bit half-arsed as a result.”

Which is another reason for letting them do dances from the later part of the series. They are fresher in the mind and muscle memory and easier to iron out the wrinkles.

I'd have a moratorium on week one and 2 dances and any dance that had been criticised for being a dud content/choreography wise. Personally, I'd rather see a good dance from the week before again than a ropey one from 3 months' ago.
DiamondDoll
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by aggs:
“And it was exactly that thinking which gave us Bacofoil and so for that reason should always be allowed to happen ”

aggs

What was Bacofoil?
aggs
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by DiamondDoll:
“aggs

What was Bacofoil?”

Lisa and Brendan's Showdance
Penny Crayon
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by aggs:
“And it was exactly that thinking which gave us Bacofoil and so for that reason should always be allowed to happen ”

A stick in the memory moment. I could hardly believe my eyes - as Craig might say

HI _LAR_I_OUS but at the same time EX_CROO_SHEE_ATE_ING!
DiamondDoll
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Lisa and Brendan's Showdance ”

Thank you.

I will youtube it as that was before my Strictly time.

Btw Merry Christmas everyone.
Penny Crayon
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by DiamondDoll:
“Thank you.

I will youtube it as that was before my Strictly time.

Btw Merry Christmas everyone.”

Don't have nightmares

I bet Brendan still wakes up in a sweat sometimes when he relives that dance.

I'll be honest - it made my Christmas that year, ROFL.
Alli-F
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by DeltaBlues:
“It's never going to happen though - the whole point of the show is to increase ratings for the Beeb and they see the big PR push for the final as an integral part of the ratings chasing. They couldn't give a stuff if the dances are a bit half-arsed as a result.”



I'd rather their last dances had no effect on the vote and were joyful celebrations of the result. So Katie does her VW to say goodbye, Kellie does her charleston as celebration of 3rd (for example) then Georgia does her charleston as goodbye dance at coming 2nd, then Jay finishes with paso. It would have been so much better and the pressure is off so they can enjoy it and the judges don't score it.
aggs
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by DiamondDoll:
“Thank you.

I will youtube it as that was before my Strictly time.

Btw Merry Christmas everyone.”

And to you, too 🎅🎁

Also watch the version with captions of comments from the DS thread running at the time. It's brilliant
Penny Crayon
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by aggs:
“And to you, too 🎅🎁

Also watch the version with captions of comments from the DS thread running at the time. It's brilliant ”

Oooh I've never seen that - I'm off for a peek.



ETA -

ROFL - two sardines struggling to get out of a tin.
Alli-F
23-12-2015
The bacofoil in all its glory with comments

Watch, marvel, cover your eyes and howl with laughter
BMLisa
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by Alli-F:
“The bacofoil in all its glory with comments

Watch, marvel, cover your eyes and howl with laughter”

I love that the interweb reacts version has not many less views than the official version
aggs
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by Alli-F:
“I'd rather their last dances had no effect on the vote and were joyful celebrations of the result. So Katie does her VW to say goodbye, Kellie does her charleston as celebration of 3rd (for example) then Georgia does her charleston as goodbye dance at coming 2nd, then Jay finishes with paso. It would have been so much better and the pressure is off so they can enjoy it and the judges don't score it.”

That's exactly it, isn't it? The final is supposed to be a celebration - not just for the celebs actually in the final, but for the all celebs involved and the series as a whole - not a tetchy reply of dances no one enjoyed that much first time round, a sulk because someone interpreted 'Showdance' in a different way to you and 3 days wearing your mardy cardi because a group of people's subjective opinion was different to yours.
DeltaBlues
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Oooh I've never seen that - I'm off for a peek.



ETA -

ROFL - two sardines struggling to get out of a tin. ”

Best bit is whoever uploaded it categorised it as "comedy"

Poor Brendan. That was Art with a capital A* darling!


*for Abysmal
Noone
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by Alli-F:
“I'd rather their last dances had no effect on the vote and were joyful celebrations of the result. So Katie does her VW to say goodbye, Kellie does her charleston as celebration of 3rd (for example) then Georgia does her charleston as goodbye dance at coming 2nd, then Jay finishes with paso. It would have been so much better and the pressure is off so they can enjoy it and the judges don't score it.”

Nice Alli, nice.

I had dream last night that everyone danced the Charleston in the final and Jay still won. It turned into a bit of a nightmare at one point when Bruno and Craig partnered up to dance their Charleston, but I'm trying not to remember this bit...Bruno in a flapper dress anyone?
wazzyboy
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by Alli-F:
“The bacofoil in all its glory with comments

Watch, marvel, cover your eyes and howl with laughter”

Irony is if they were skating they'd probably have got sixes across the board

Gotta love Brucie's reaction at the end, he was like, WTF?
Noone
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by DeltaBlues:
“Best bit is whoever uploaded it categorised it as "comedy"

Poor Brendan. That was Art with a capital A* darling!


*for Abysmal”

Or Silly Arse...oh, my eyes
marinamau
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by Noone:
“Nice Alli, nice.

I had dream last night that everyone danced the Charleston in the final and Jay still won. It turned into a bit of a nightmare at one point when Bruno and Craig partnered up to dance their Charleston, but I'm trying not to remember this bit...Bruno in a flapper dress anyone? ”

Nightmare?
Alli-F
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by aggs:
“That's exactly it, isn't it? The final is supposed to be a celebration - not just for the celebs actually in the final, but for the all celebs involved and the series as a whole - not a tetchy reply of dances no one enjoyed that much first time round, a sulk because someone interpreted 'Showdance' in a different way to you and 3 days wearing your mardy cardi because a group of people's subjective opinion was different to yours.”

Best phrase ever! And I think you'll find I'll be wearing my mardy cardi for a few months.
Noone
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by marinamau:
“Nightmare?”

Yep.

Someone was chanting, 'pickle me walnuts, pickle me walnuts' in time to the music too.

I've booked therapy in the New Year.
Noone
23-12-2015
Originally Posted by aggs:
“...wearing your mardy cardi ...”

Dear Father Christmas,

I know it's a bit late but I can add a mardy cardi to my Christmas list?

Ta
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