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This is Most Definitely Not An Appreciation Thread - Part 23
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Not appreciating TTF and Louise's repetitive fist bumping on ITT!
And what's going on with TTF's hat?
And what's going on with TTF's hat?
Originally Posted by Mrs Spratt:
“Not appreciating TTF and Louise's repetitive fist bumping on ITT!
And what's going on with TTF's hat?”
“Not appreciating TTF and Louise's repetitive fist bumping on ITT!
And what's going on with TTF's hat?”
I was about to unappreciate the hat, but maybe the wig glue leaked and now it's stuck there
It's acting as a cold frame? He's rubbed some Regaine extra strength on and he's hot housing it for tomorrow?
Originally Posted by Mrs Spratt:
“Not appreciating TTF and Louise's repetitive fist bumping on ITT!
And what's going on with TTF's hat?”
“Not appreciating TTF and Louise's repetitive fist bumping on ITT!
And what's going on with TTF's hat?”
I just know that TTF and Louise's rumba will be so boring to watch - from their training footage it looks very dull to me with no spark in it
I don't understand how some viewers still can't see it's all manipulated. From the judges scores to the way the results are revealed.
Unappreciating that Anastacia has gone from being a very popular pre-show booking to lightning rod for every conspiracy theory, judgemental reaction and general unpleasantness on so many threads.
The MF is just a morass of mean-spiritedness this year.
Or am I guilty of wearing rose-tinted specs and just imagining the past was a better place on DS?
The MF is just a morass of mean-spiritedness this year.
Or am I guilty of wearing rose-tinted specs and just imagining the past was a better place on DS?
Originally Posted by sey77:
“I don't understand how some viewers still can't see it's all manipulated. From the judges scores to the way the results are revealed.”
“I don't understand how some viewers still can't see it's all manipulated. From the judges scores to the way the results are revealed.”
Monkseal put it better than I could (hope you don't mind me quoting you M
) using Jay as an example:
Quote:
“The idea that the judges and producers have sat on this show for 13 years and would still feasibly now, after everything that's happened over the years, think "if we give this person the most points in the final they will definitely win, yes, that's how it's always worked" is hilarious.
Jay got the highest average score of the series, and one of the highest average scores for a male celebrity ever, despite starting nervously for the first two weeks, forgetting a routine and (badly) making up the ending, producing really ropey basic ballroom technique as far in as the semi-final and slopping all around the floor with a disastrous quickstep the first time it happened. He wasn't a victim of some sort of grand scheme of persecution because Craig criticised his facial expressions too meanly sometimes and someone else got more points in the last episode.
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“The idea that the judges and producers have sat on this show for 13 years and would still feasibly now, after everything that's happened over the years, think "if we give this person the most points in the final they will definitely win, yes, that's how it's always worked" is hilarious.
Jay got the highest average score of the series, and one of the highest average scores for a male celebrity ever, despite starting nervously for the first two weeks, forgetting a routine and (badly) making up the ending, producing really ropey basic ballroom technique as far in as the semi-final and slopping all around the floor with a disastrous quickstep the first time it happened. He wasn't a victim of some sort of grand scheme of persecution because Craig criticised his facial expressions too meanly sometimes and someone else got more points in the last episode.
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Watching the judges get all huffy when the voters choose couple A over couple B is half the fun of the show.
For me, the thing with Len is that occasionally the kindly Uncle Len mask slips and you get a sighting of the petulance underneath when he thinks he's being ignored by the voters. It happened during the infamous series 6, it happened in the final last year, it happened with Will and it happened last week. Anyone who plays the 'only joking' card after a sarky comment is totally not joking and has got the hump.
Originally Posted by tortoiseperson:
“I wondered whether the reason for the blocking of the Misirlou jive is down to music copyright rather than any other kind of rights - but there are plenty of other Misirlou vids over on YT.”
“I wondered whether the reason for the blocking of the Misirlou jive is down to music copyright rather than any other kind of rights - but there are plenty of other Misirlou vids over on YT.”
It will be geoblocked because BBC Worldwide is responsible for distributing BBC content outside of the UK.
Originally Posted by dippydancing:
“Or am I guilty of wearing rose-tinted specs and just imagining the past was a better place on DS?”
“Or am I guilty of wearing rose-tinted specs and just imagining the past was a better place on DS?”
Very much so yes, the Kelly Brook year was particularly illuminating but as has been said elsewhere, the original BBC Message Boards make everyone who posts here look like a nice little granny in a knitted shawl offering cups of tea and biscuits.
Originally Posted by sey77:
“I don't understand how some viewers still can't see it's all manipulated. From the judges scores to the way the results are revealed.”
“I don't understand how some viewers still can't see it's all manipulated. From the judges scores to the way the results are revealed.”
I remember waaaaayyyy back in series 3 and Dad complaining like all is holy about the (in his words) relentless pushing of Darren and Lilia to win. I thought he was paranoid until he pointed out how much more visible Darren was on ITT than the other contestants. It's been going on for years and it's even more transparent now.
Originally Posted by Cadiva:
“Very much so yes, the Kelly Brook year was particularly illuminating but as has been said elsewhere, the original BBC Message Boards make everyone who posts here look like a nice little granny in a knitted shawl offering cups of tea and biscuits.”
“Very much so yes, the Kelly Brook year was particularly illuminating but as has been said elsewhere, the original BBC Message Boards make everyone who posts here look like a nice little granny in a knitted shawl offering cups of tea and biscuits.”
Ah- Kelly is BDS for me (before DS). Glad I missed it.
And yeah- even now the BBC boards are a bit... passionate.
Originally Posted by dippydancing:
“Monkseal put it better than I could (hope you don't mind me quoting you M) using Jay as an example:”
“Monkseal put it better than I could (hope you don't mind me quoting you M
) using Jay as an example:”
Think back a few more years than that... there is no way Peter Andre should have been saved in Blackpool. His dance was far worse than Jamelia, who I wasn't a fan of, yet the judges saved him. Despite always claiming they based their decision on what is danced in the dance off.
To think that people still can't see the manipulation going on amazes me. There are so many more instances where scores or judges decisions haven't matched previous comments.
I really don't think the judges should have the final say. It should be the paying public, as it always used to be.
Originally Posted by Cadiva:
“It will be geoblocked because BBC Worldwide is responsible for distributing BBC content outside of the UK.
Very much so yes, the Kelly Brook year was particularly illuminating but as has been said elsewhere, the original BBC Message Boards make everyone who posts here look like a nice little granny in a knitted shawl offering cups of tea and biscuits.”
“It will be geoblocked because BBC Worldwide is responsible for distributing BBC content outside of the UK.
Very much so yes, the Kelly Brook year was particularly illuminating but as has been said elsewhere, the original BBC Message Boards make everyone who posts here look like a nice little granny in a knitted shawl offering cups of tea and biscuits.”
I remember reading during series 3 - and the flack Zoe took for being rumoured to have had a few lessons after she signed up was mind boggling.
Originally Posted by aggs:
“For me, the thing with Len is that occasionally the kindly Uncle Len mask slips and you get a sighting of the petulance underneath when he thinks he's being ignored by the voters. It happened during the infamous series 6, it happened in the final last year, it happened with Will and it happened last week. Anyone who plays the 'only joking' card after a sarky comment is totally not joking and has got the hump.”
“For me, the thing with Len is that occasionally the kindly Uncle Len mask slips and you get a sighting of the petulance underneath when he thinks he's being ignored by the voters. It happened during the infamous series 6, it happened in the final last year, it happened with Will and it happened last week. Anyone who plays the 'only joking' card after a sarky comment is totally not joking and has got the hump.”
I agree with you, aggs, and my take on the whole jive debacle (which I'm putting in here rather than 'out there' because I don't want to be called a Jay fanatic again):
No, I don't think the producers are desperate for any particular couple to win, nor
am I into conspiracy theories about manipulation to get a particular couple the win, but I do think the producers encourage the judges to comment and/or score to engineer interest and excitement.
So, my take on this year (and I'm probably talking out of my proverbial) is that they fear people will lose interest because they think Danny has it in the bag. Louise doesn't seem to be generating much interest so far; Daisy has gone off the boil, and Laura is proving a bit of a disappointment. Ore obviously has talent and Joanne upped her game in Week 3. They see that Ore's jive is looking good in practice, so suggest to the judges that they might try and be positive in their comments. Come Saturday Ore plays a blinder and Len (not a man noted for either subtlety or diplomacy) over eggs it with "Move over, Jay". Nobody seems to be bothered with Bruno's praising it alongside Jill and Jay.
Now, Ore isn't a stupid man and I guess his inner reaction when he heard Len's words was "Shiiiiiiiiit! Take a sledgehammer to my knees, why don't you? You couldn't do more damage." Hence, his 'always wanted to learn the jive; being compared to Jill and Jay is beyond his wildest dreams' performance on ITT as an exercise in damage limitation.
Originally Posted by aggs:
“I remember reading during series 3 - and the flack Zoe took for being rumoured to have had a few lessons after she signed up was mind boggling.”
“I remember reading during series 3 - and the flack Zoe took for being rumoured to have had a few lessons after she signed up was mind boggling.”
Aye, I was a lurker for a long time before I finally signed up once the Beeb announced it was closing the old SCD Message Boards. A whole bunch of us all migrated here around the same time, most of whom no longer post here any more sadly
Originally Posted by Cadiva:
“Aye, I was a lurker for a long time before I finally signed up once the Beeb announced it was closing the old SCD Message Boards. A whole bunch of us all migrated here around the same time, most of whom no longer post here any more sadly”
“Aye, I was a lurker for a long time before I finally signed up once the Beeb announced it was closing the old SCD Message Boards. A whole bunch of us all migrated here around the same time, most of whom no longer post here any more sadly
”
👋 I do. However Ali-F seems to have disappeared this year.
I used to lurk on the BBC boards and chortle at how any threads/posts critical of Bruce were quickly deleted.
Originally Posted by Muggsy:
“I agree with you, aggs, and my take on the whole jive debacle (which I'm putting in here rather than 'out there' because I don't want to be called a Jay fanatic again):
No, I don't think the producers are desperate for any particular couple to win, nor
am I into conspiracy theories about manipulation to get a particular couple the win, but I do think the producers encourage the judges to comment and/or score to engineer interest and excitement.
So, my take on this year (and I'm probably talking out of my proverbial) is that they fear people will lose interest because they think Danny has it in the bag. Louise doesn't seem to be generating much interest so far; Daisy has gone off the boil, and Laura is proving a bit of a disappointment. Ore obviously has talent and Joanne upped her game in Week 3. They see that Ore's jive is looking good in practice, so suggest to the judges that they might try and be positive in their comments. Come Saturday Ore plays a blinder and Len (not a man noted for either subtlety or diplomacy) over eggs it with "Move over, Jay". Nobody seems to be bothered with Bruno's praising it alongside Jill and Jay.
Now, Ore isn't a stupid man and I guess his inner reaction when he heard Len's words was "Shiiiiiiiiit! Take a sledgehammer to my knees, why don't you? You couldn't do more damage." Hence, his 'always wanted to learn the jive; being compared to Jill and Jay is beyond his wildest dreams' performance on ITT as an exercise in damage limitation.”
“I agree with you, aggs, and my take on the whole jive debacle (which I'm putting in here rather than 'out there' because I don't want to be called a Jay fanatic again):
No, I don't think the producers are desperate for any particular couple to win, nor
am I into conspiracy theories about manipulation to get a particular couple the win, but I do think the producers encourage the judges to comment and/or score to engineer interest and excitement.
So, my take on this year (and I'm probably talking out of my proverbial) is that they fear people will lose interest because they think Danny has it in the bag. Louise doesn't seem to be generating much interest so far; Daisy has gone off the boil, and Laura is proving a bit of a disappointment. Ore obviously has talent and Joanne upped her game in Week 3. They see that Ore's jive is looking good in practice, so suggest to the judges that they might try and be positive in their comments. Come Saturday Ore plays a blinder and Len (not a man noted for either subtlety or diplomacy) over eggs it with "Move over, Jay". Nobody seems to be bothered with Bruno's praising it alongside Jill and Jay.
Now, Ore isn't a stupid man and I guess his inner reaction when he heard Len's words was "Shiiiiiiiiit! Take a sledgehammer to my knees, why don't you? You couldn't do more damage." Hence, his 'always wanted to learn the jive; being compared to Jill and Jay is beyond his wildest dreams' performance on ITT as an exercise in damage limitation.”
I totally agree
I also thought it interesting on ITT yesterday when Natalie had a slight grumble (as much as Natalie ever could grumble) that the dances Greg has had so far have no flow - they dot about from one technique to another completely different technique to yet another technique, and I did just wonder if the P-that-B were using the early weeks to get him grounded in technique and some of the ropier dances out the way so he can be revealed around Blackpool as a propah contendah.
I see the same few, not having much luck with one thread, have started another. Says it all, really.
Originally Posted by aggs:
“For me, the thing with Len is that occasionally the kindly Uncle Len mask slips and you get a sighting of the petulance underneath when he thinks he's being ignored by the voters. It happened during the infamous series 6, it happened in the final last year, it happened with Will and it happened last week. Anyone who plays the 'only joking' card after a sarky comment is totally not joking and has got the hump.”
“For me, the thing with Len is that occasionally the kindly Uncle Len mask slips and you get a sighting of the petulance underneath when he thinks he's being ignored by the voters. It happened during the infamous series 6, it happened in the final last year, it happened with Will and it happened last week. Anyone who plays the 'only joking' card after a sarky comment is totally not joking and has got the hump.”
Which was series 6? I never know what's what by the number. What are we now, series 13? 27? Who am I? Is that you, Hortense?
Originally Posted by Monaogg:
“👋 I do. However Ali-F seems to have disappeared this year.”
“👋 I do. However Ali-F seems to have disappeared this year.
”
She's never really got over WuzRobbed.
Originally Posted by Wiskas2:
“Which was series 6? I never know what's what by the number. What are we now, series 13? 27? Who am I? Is that you, Hortense?
She's never really got over WuzRobbed.”
“Which was series 6? I never know what's what by the number. What are we now, series 13? 27? Who am I? Is that you, Hortense?
She's never really got over WuzRobbed.”
The Bacofoil year.
Originally Posted by sey77:
“Think back a few more years than that... there is no way Peter Andre should have been saved in Blackpool. His dance was far worse than Jamelia, who I wasn't a fan of, yet the judges saved him. Despite always claiming they based their decision on what is danced in the dance off.
To think that people still can't see the manipulation going on amazes me. There are so many more instances where scores or judges decisions haven't matched previous comments.
I really don't think the judges should have the final say. It should be the paying public, as it always used to be.”
“Think back a few more years than that... there is no way Peter Andre should have been saved in Blackpool. His dance was far worse than Jamelia, who I wasn't a fan of, yet the judges saved him. Despite always claiming they based their decision on what is danced in the dance off.
To think that people still can't see the manipulation going on amazes me. There are so many more instances where scores or judges decisions haven't matched previous comments.
I really don't think the judges should have the final say. It should be the paying public, as it always used to be.”
I don't want to hijack the NAT and turn it into a discussion of specifics, but BIB1: Peter Andre was the same year as Jay.
And yes, the judges are irritatingly inconsistent, but I think they just follow their own personal biases rather than a PTB grand plan.
And BIB2: from this BBC blog written by one of the original creative producers on how the show first got made:
Quote:
“... it was the dancers’ insistence that there had to be proper judging, that it couldn’t just be a popularity contest...”
“... it was the dancers’ insistence that there had to be proper judging, that it couldn’t just be a popularity contest...”
Originally Posted by aggs:
“I totally agree
I also thought it interesting on ITT yesterday when Natalie had a slight grumble (as much as Natalie ever could grumble) that the dances Greg has had so far have no flow - they dot about from one technique to another completely different technique to yet another technique, and I did just wonder if the P-that-B were using the early weeks to get him grounded in technique and some of the ropier dances out the way so he can be revealed around Blackpool as a propah contendah.”
“I totally agree
I also thought it interesting on ITT yesterday when Natalie had a slight grumble (as much as Natalie ever could grumble) that the dances Greg has had so far have no flow - they dot about from one technique to another completely different technique to yet another technique, and I did just wonder if the P-that-B were using the early weeks to get him grounded in technique and some of the ropier dances out the way so he can be revealed around Blackpool as a propah contendah.”
You may have something there.
I noticed the grumble but didn't think it through. We can only hope you're right.
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