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Though it pains me to say it (because I honestly thought he'd be my favourite), Ore does seem to have constructed a 'media persona' that he thinks will play well with the Strictly audience.
Well, it's turned me right off ya, mate! ![]() Look how the forum responded to him at first. We had the 'arrogant' threads. But then it turns out that dancing moves him. Quick reshuffle. Now we get the 'he's faking it' threads. He has been over-brash and over-weepy in a few short weeks. Both, of course, thoroughly reprehensible. ![]() It seems likeliest (doing me sums) that he's got an emotional streak that he (tries to) keep under wraps. So it's the out-of-control that characterises him for me rather than a constructed personality...
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I think the opposite.
Look how the forum responded to him at first. We had the 'arrogant' threads. But then it turns out that dancing moves him. Quick reshuffle. Now we get the 'he's faking it' threads. He has been over-brash and over-weepy in a few short weeks. Both, of course, thoroughly reprehensible. ![]() It seems likeliest (doing me sums) that he's got an emotional streak that he (tries to) keep under wraps. So it's the out-of-control that characterises him for me rather than a constructed personality... ![]() I started off thinking Danny would be the definitive bot - but I find his rather tongue in cheekness amusing. |
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I like the guy - but he is doing everything that I least like in contestants.
I started off thinking Danny would be the definitive bot - but I find his rather tongue in cheekness amusing. |
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(((Ah, hunni))) That would do it, and is a totally acceptable reason.
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(((Ah, hunni))) That would do it, and is a totally acceptable reason.
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I think the opposite.
Look how the forum responded to him at first. We had the 'arrogant' threads. But then it turns out that dancing moves him. Quick reshuffle. Now we get the 'he's faking it' threads. He has been over-brash and over-weepy in a few short weeks. Both, of course, thoroughly reprehensible. ![]() It seems likeliest (doing me sums) that he's got an emotional streak that he (tries to) keep under wraps. So it's the out-of-control that characterises him for me rather than a constructed personality... ![]() |
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I was chuffed when he was announced - like him on Breakfast and <shallow mode> he's easy on th eye. He seems to have cherry picked all the bits of past celebs that irritated me (Dr Hammy/Greyson/MDF) and mounded them into one. I do still like him but he's on thin ice
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I think I was one of the people taking issue with the 'arrogant' and 'brash' posts (because I don't think he is), and I have no issue with a man shedding tears, but there's something about the way he expresses things. It's difficult to explain, but it's like when I catch a few minutes of a 'scripted reality'(sic) programme or a soap and I think "But nobody talks like that in real life". I feel he's constructed a script for himself, and dialogue isn't his forte.
Hes a big kid.
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I do think that putting a kids presenter with Joanne was always going to be this - but over the last couple of weeks even Joanne has looked slightly irritated. When the person who willingly spends time with Russell Grant looks like they are thumbing the mental yellow pages for a locksmith - dial it back a notch.
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And I do hope Kevin gets someone he's scared of next year. Older, sassy, unshockable and with a dirty cackle; prepared to slither around him in an entirely post-watershed fashion... ![]()
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I find that I think "nah, he's not as annoying as I remember". Then I see him again, and whoops, he's every bit as irritating and then some. And that's not including the irritant that appears with him.
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I do think that putting a kids presenter with Joanne was always going to be this - but over the last couple of weeks even Joanne has looked slightly irritated. When the person who willingly spends time with Russell Grant looks like they are thumbing the mental yellow pages for a locksmith - dial it back a notch.
I want to call him Uriah - because 'e's ever so 'umble. |
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He's believing his own hype and that of the judges, plus all the talk of 'that jive' - have we had the Dr Hammy prayer hands yet? If not, I fear it's only a matter of time.
I want to call him Uriah - because 'e's ever so 'umble. |
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May I delicately unappreciate Russell Grant please. I never saw him on SCD but he did not endear himself to me tonight. A rude little man.
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Forgive me, this reads like self-persuasion.
A lot of the contestants do prayer hands. A lot get emotional. A lot of them care. It's as if it's been decided in previous years that there are people who are intolerable, and now they're grouped together in streams, like Homeric epithets, to apply to this year's supposed-to-be intolerable figure. Hammy prayer hands and Wright umbleness. We'll sew Ore into that costume to let everyone know in unsubtle code that he's this year's P'duh. (I defended him last year too because the weight of dislike seemed entirely disproportionate to anything he said or did.) It all seems pre-fabricated. Doesn't it get boring never letting people exist as individual human beings? This year's so-and-so is nothing. It's nobody. I'm aware that I sound fed up and that posting isn't a good idea. But what the hell? The airlessness of it bothers me. |
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BIB- yes, a couple of weeks back. Dr Hammy prayer hands along with Mark Wright tears and PDuh 'umbleness is not a great combo for me. Still, on the plus side he won't be doing columns where he imagines Jwann's sex life!
The photos will be of him clasping his wife's hands while gazing adoringly into her eyes with a picture of the glitterball / Jwann as Marilyn in the background. |
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May I delicately unappreciate Russell Grant please. I never saw him on SCD but he did not endear himself to me tonight. A rude little man.
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Elaine Paige on ITT -
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Ore has obviously attended the two-week "Presenter's Charm Seminar," where they are taught how to comport themselves in situations like being on ITT, so they come across as, vulnerable, lovable, humble, yet extremely likable.
Unfortunately, Naga was on holiday those two weeks and missed it. |
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PS, ignore me! I get hobby horseish. I've already been thrown out of an App thread this year for defending one of the people whose App Thread it was.
Who gets thrown out of an App Thread? I did. #Proud
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Forgive me, this reads like self-persuasion.
A lot of the contestants do prayer hands. A lot get emotional. A lot of them care. It's as if it's been decided in previous years that there are people who are intolerable, and now they're grouped together in streams, like Homeric epithets, to apply to this year's supposed-to-be intolerable figure. Hammy prayer hands and Wright umbleness. We'll sew Ore into that costume to let everyone know in unsubtle code that he's this year's P'duh. (I defended him last year too because the weight of dislike seemed entirely disproportionate to anything he said or did.) It all seems pre-fabricated. Doesn't it get boring never letting people exist as individual human beings? This year's so-and-so is nothing. It's nobody. I'm aware that I sound fed up and that posting isn't a good idea. But what the hell? The airlessness of it bothers me. I liked Ore at the start and he hasn't completely lost me yet, but he needs to take a step back. He can't be this invested all the way through or he will burn out faster than Norman Deadnan. |
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PS, ignore me! I get hobby horseish. I've already been thrown out of an App thread this year for defending one of the people whose App Thread it was.
Who gets thrown out of an App Thread? I did. #Proud ![]() ![]() That's awesome work. |
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May I delicately unappreciate Russell Grant please. I never saw him on SCD but he did not endear himself to me tonight. A rude little man.
![]() I'm the same though. From bits I'd seen of him before I thought he seemed like harmless fun and didn't get the hate. Tonight I saw a man who seemed to actually think he could dance, and was sneering at Ed Balls as if he was the Brad Pitt of the Dance World when we all know that title is already taken! |
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Elaine Paige on ITT -
![]() That is all. ![]() Russell seems to think he's an actual dancer rather than someone who clambered out of Naga's clamshell and went out the week he was fired out a cannon.. |
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BIB- yes, a couple of weeks back. Dr Hammy prayer hands along with Mark Wright tears and PDuh 'umbleness is not a great combo for me. Still, on the plus side he won't be doing columns where he imagines Jwann's sex life!
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Forgive me, this reads like self-persuasion.
A lot of the contestants do prayer hands. A lot get emotional. A lot of them care. It's as if it's been decided in previous years that there are people who are intolerable, and now they're grouped together in streams, like Homeric epithets, to apply to this year's supposed-to-be intolerable figure. Hammy prayer hands and Wright umbleness. We'll sew Ore into that costume to let everyone know in unsubtle code that he's this year's P'duh. (I defended him last year too because the weight of dislike seemed entirely disproportionate to anything he said or did.) It all seems pre-fabricated. Doesn't it get boring never letting people exist as individual human beings? This year's so-and-so is nothing. It's nobody. I'm aware that I sound fed up and that posting isn't a good idea. But what the hell? The airlessness of it bothers me. |
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For me, Ore has sewn himself into that costume. He is showing all the things I dislike in contestant. So while more than one may do prayer hands and more than one may cry and more than one may be 'umble and more than one be a tad over invested and more than one have their pro considering a new phone number ... when it all comes together in one celeb, it's just too much,
I liked Ore at the start and he hasn't completely lost me yet, but he needs to take a step back. He can't be this invested all the way through or he will burn out faster than Norman Deadnan. Meanwhile the real Ore might still be gifted some fabulously surprising choreo from Jo that doesn't involve crab claws, a pole or a pushbike. He will probably cry. And then he'll retreat on ITT into presenter-mode because who wants to cry on TV? Buuuut... Here's why I like him. He's the beginner bloke who really could get to the final. ![]() He's my ideal Strictly candidate for all sorts of reasons that include being unpredictable and emotional. I don't feel to myself like someone who doesn't get people emotionally, but, like Tejas, I'm not seeing the Ore you're seeing. He seems genuine to me. (But then I like Jo too! ![]() ![]() )
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