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You forget the similarity between Jwann and Ore's wife...
It's an unappreciation thread. I unappreciate. I find it throws greater contrast into my appreciation. If my unappreciation coincides with that of others, fun times. If not, I don't care. Now, after 14 series and what must be over 200 celebs. ![]()
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#10077 |
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Damnit! There I was assuming that some of those very bloated 15-16 celeb series (now you'll say there were never any casts that large) would have swayed it to over 200. Should have known the mere mention of statistics would have called you down from on high, even without the batsymbol...
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#10078 |
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But... but... but... is this him or an unreal version of him? The Frankensteinian Ham-Wright probably was never meant to live.
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PS, ignore me! I get hobby horseish. I've already been thrown out of an App thread this year for defending one of the people whose App Thread it was.
Who gets thrown out of an App Thread? I did. #Proud ![]() ![]() #Solidarity *but I reserve the right to unappreciate Ore *
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#10081 |
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I prefer Ore to Danny, although I prefer Oti to Jo. Although Jo is the better Choreographer..
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I prefer Ore to Danny, although I prefer Oti to Jo. Although Jo is the better Choreographer..
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You really think that he is that good of an actor? Sorry, I think the sobbing, Dr Hammy-prayer hands is exactly him. With added Jwann for extra angst.
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Did you see the bench / cycle tango?! She really isn't.
I should bugger off! I loved that AS and will defend re if he cries till Christmas on account of it#Solidarity back at you DeiseDays
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Did you see the bench / cycle tango?! She really isn't.
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But that's what is so interesting! How can you have a bloke cycling on stage for a tango [my imagination adds the squeak... squeak... squeak...] and then -- just two weeks later -- that gorgeously shimmering Singing in the Rain thingy with its simple-looking lifts. When did an AS on SCD last have three non-head-height, non-perilous, non-leg-over-shoulder, elegant and characterful lifts?
I should bugger off! I loved that AS and will defend re if he cries till Christmas on account of it#Solidarity back at you DeiseDays ![]()
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Her AS and Jive are the best Choreography this series so far. I didn't like the first couple of weeks but credit where it is due. If Ore wins it will be partly because of Jo's Choreography.
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Yes, the AS is one of the best dances this series - but frankly, that tango, considering Ore's ability, is one of the worst. Oti is managing a much better strike rate for me - VW and QS were wonderful, plus excellent paso, very commendable week one cha cha and non-cringey rumba. I'll take that over beautiful AS, overly-kicky jive, a cha cha that took Ore, Hot Stuff and a fireman's outfit and made him sexless, awful awful tango and a really boring waltz.
Came back to add 'consistently good' because Ed is probably the most consistent really
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Danny and Oti are the most consistent for sure...
Come back to add 'consistently good' because Ed is probably the most consistent really ![]()
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Yes, the AS is one of the best dances this series - but frankly, that tango, considering Ore's ability, is one of the worst. Oti is managing a much better strike rate for me - VW and QS were wonderful, plus excellent paso, very commendable week one cha cha and non-cringey rumba. I'll take that over beautiful AS, overly-kicky jive, a cha cha that took Ore, Hot Stuff and a fireman's outfit and made him sexless, awful awful tango and a really boring waltz.
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Her AS and Jive are the best Choreography this series so far. I didn't like the first couple of weeks but credit where it is due. If Ore wins it will be partly because of Jo's Choreography.
Jo's been hit and miss and may continue to be so. I also don't think (despite overhype for the jive) that they've had an omgthatssoamazingimightpassout dance that would mean one dance might win it for them either. To clarify, Jay could easily say Aliona's choreography won it for them last year (it didn't) because their jive was such a "moment" that it was the clarifying moment of last year (and was choreographed by Aliona). I don't think Ore's jive has had the same effect, therefore, whether Jo's choreography will influence his (possible) win is still in balance for me. |
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The Quickstep was excellent but given his ability I've been disappointed with his other dances and have not re-watched. An ""overley kicky" jive, that jive had very good classic jive content. so can't agree there.
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Given evidence so far, I don't think you can really say that.
Jo's been hit and miss and may continue to be so. I also don't think (despite overhype for the jive) that they've had an omgthatssoamazingimightpassout dance that would mean one dance might win it for them either. To clarify, Jay could easily say Aliona's choreography won it for them last year (it didn't) because their jive was such a "moment" that it was the clarifying moment of last year (and was choreographed by Aliona). I don't think Ore's jive has had the same effect, therefore, whether Jo's choreography will influence his (possible) win is still in balance for me. Ore's Jive felt scripted, a bit like Louise's (though I like her) Charleston tomorrow. It will be great, it is great... even though Chloe found errors without overly trying in Choreography Corner... it was forced. And when something feels forced on me I don't just unappreciate it but I also resent it. And I think that's where Ore started to really bug me through no fault of his own - because I was being told I MUST love it, it WAS great, really, seriously.... Saying that at least his Jive was good, even if I wouldn't put it in the Holy Trinity; ithe praise for the Waltz just tipped me over the edge. Maybe it was stunning and I'm just being irrational but it's got to the point where I'm going to pick up every little thing with him which I let go with others. And it isn't even his fault.
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Whilst not wanting to bring Jay amnd Aliona into this I think my issue with Ore started like this. Jay and Aliona created a moment with their Jive. It was if everything aligned and it just took off without effort, without hype (prior to the performance), it just soared...
Ore's Jive felt scripted, a bit like Louise's (though I like her) Charleston tomorrow. It will be great, it is great... even though Chloe found errors without overly trying in Choreography Corner... it was forced. And when something feels forced on me I don't just unappreciate it but I also resent it. And I think that's where Ore started to really bug me through no fault of his own - because I was being told I MUST love it, it WAS great, really, seriously.... Saying that at least his Jive was good, even if I wouldn't put it in the Holy Trinity; ithe praise for the Waltz just tipped me over the edge. Maybe it was stunning and I'm just being irrational but it's got to the point where I'm going to pick up every little thing with him which I let go with others. And it isn't even his fault. ![]() On a different note, I just went back and rewatched lots of old jives - Louisa, Kelly, Alesha (as well as my favourites of Chelsee, Jay and Scott - it's really hard finding his on YT if you can only remember his name as being Scoooooooooooooooooooooootttttttttttttttt, btw.) and must mourn the camera work from earlier series.
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Very good classic jive content yes, great variety of jive steps no. In comparison to my favourite jives on the show, it was much too dependent on just one aspect of jive choreography. No light and shade, dahling. So for me, overly kicky.
Regarding being told what to like, the Hallowe'en rubbish is being shoved down our throats and we are told that "Everyone loves Hallowe'en"! No we don't! |
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The way he speaks just makes me think Children's Presenter. i know he only did Newsround, like serious children stuff, but I just feel, even in his sports presenting he talks as if he is talking to children
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He's believing his own hype and that of the judges, plus all the talk of 'that jive' - have we had the Dr Hammy prayer hands yet? If not, I fear it's only a matter of time.
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PS, ignore me! I get hobby horseish. I've already been thrown out of an App thread this year for defending one of the people whose App Thread it was.
Who gets thrown out of an App Thread? I did. #Proud ![]() Quote:
No, no acting at all. I'm suggesting the person you describe is a forum-born monster that doesn't attach to the real bloke in a useful way
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PS, ignore me! I get hobby horseish. I've already been thrown out of an App thread this year for defending one of the people whose App Thread it was.
Who gets thrown out of an App Thread? I did. #Proud ![]() App threads can be a tricky place especially when established fans of the celeb find it. It all gets a bit awkward if they have a bad week as that suddenly becomes the pros fault and "they'd have done so much better if paired with...." I've had to stick up for a pro in an app thread before! |
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You forget the similarity between Jwann and Ore's wife...
It's an unappreciation thread. I unappreciate. I find it throws greater contrast into my appreciation. If my unappreciation coincides with that of others, fun times. If not, I don't care. Now, after 14 series and what must be over 200 celebs, if I find certain characteristics are annoying, I find them annoying. Different people can share habits and characteristics - they are still individuals, and I can still dislike them individually - or like them. I also reserve the right to find them annoying in some and not in others. I'm contrary like that. The definitive "taking agin" rules. https://mobile.twitter.com/MarianKeyes/status/768105212569591809 |
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The Quickstep was excellent but given his ability I've been disappointed with his other dances and have not re-watched. An ""overley kicky" jive, that jive had very good classic jive content. so can't agree there.
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PS, ignore me! I get hobby horseish. I've already been thrown out of an App thread this year for defending one of the people whose App Thread it was.
Who gets thrown out of an App Thread? I did. #Proud ![]() Is there a form to fill in?
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re if he cries till Christmas on account of it