192

Damnit! There I was assuming that some of those very bloated 15-16 celeb series (now you'll say there were never any casts that large) would have swayed it to over 200. Should have known the mere mention of statistics would have called you down from on high, even without the batsymbol...

You really think that he is that good of an actor? Sorry, I think the sobbing, Dr Hammy-prayer hands is exactly him. With added Jwann for extra angst.

I think you should reimagine this as conscious uncoupling ... I did

#Solidarity

*but I reserve the right to unappreciate Ore *

And if you include Christmas Specials ...

I prefer Ore to Danny, although I prefer Oti to Jo. Although Jo is the better Choreographer..

Did you see the bench / cycle tango?! She really isn't.

No, no acting at all. I'm suggesting the person you describe is a forum-born monster that doesn't attach to the real bloke in a useful way

But that's what is so interesting! How can you have a bloke cycling on stage for a tango [my imagination adds the squeak... squeak... squeak...] and then -- just two weeks later -- that gorgeously shimmering Singing in the Rain thingy with its simple-looking lifts. When did an AS on SCD last have three non-head-height, non-perilous, non-leg-over-shoulder, elegant and characterful lifts?

I should bugger off! I loved that AS and will defend re if he cries till Christmas on account of it

#Solidarity back at you DeiseDays

Her AS and Jive are the best Choreography this series so far. I didn't like the first couple of weeks but credit where it is due. If Ore wins it will be partly because of Jo's Choreography.

It's the Darren Gough Memorial Journey Arc

Yes, the AS is one of the best dances this series - but frankly, that tango, considering Ore's ability, is one of the worst. Oti is managing a much better strike rate for me - VW and QS were wonderful, plus excellent paso, very commendable week one cha cha and non-cringey rumba. I'll take that over beautiful AS, overly-kicky jive, a cha cha that took Ore, Hot Stuff and a fireman's outfit and made him sexless, awful awful tango and a really boring waltz.

Danny and Oti are the most consistent for sure...

Came back to add 'consistently good' because Ed is probably the most consistent really

The Quickstep was excellent but given his ability I've been disappointed with his other dances and have not re-watched. An ""overley kicky" jive, that jive had very good classic jive content. so can't agree there.

Given evidence so far, I don't think you can really say that.

Jo's been hit and miss and may continue to be so. I also don't think (despite overhype for the jive) that they've had an omgthatssoamazingimightpassout dance that would mean one dance might win it for them either. To clarify, Jay could easily say Aliona's choreography won it for them last year (it didn't) because their jive was such a "moment" that it was the clarifying moment of last year (and was choreographed by Aliona). I don't think Ore's jive has had the same effect, therefore, whether Jo's choreography will influence his (possible) win is still in balance for me.

Very good classic jive content yes, great variety of jive steps no. In comparison to my favourite jives on the show, it was much too dependent on just one aspect of jive choreography. No light and shade, dahling. So for me, overly kicky.

Whilst not wanting to bring Jay amnd Aliona into this I think my issue with Ore started like this. Jay and Aliona created a moment with their Jive. It was if everything aligned and it just took off without effort, without hype (prior to the performance), it just soared...

Ore's Jive felt scripted, a bit like Louise's (though I like her) Charleston tomorrow. It will be great, it is great... even though Chloe found errors without overly trying in Choreography Corner... it was forced. And when something feels forced on me I don't just unappreciate it but I also resent it. And I think that's where Ore started to really bug me through no fault of his own - because I was being told I MUST love it, it WAS great, really, seriously....

Saying that at least his Jive was good, even if I wouldn't put it in the Holy Trinity; ithe praise for the Waltz just tipped me over the edge. Maybe it was stunning and I'm just being irrational but it's got to the point where I'm going to pick up every little thing with him which I let go with others. And it isn't even his fault.

While I find him irritating in his own right (it's that presenteritis talked about earlier in the series; he still hasn't shaken it and it's children's presenteritis for an added dose of insincerity), the hype isn't helping his cause. It's a bit like the Komedy Kontestants - we're told over and over that we are hyperventilating from laughing - or should be. There are few things as funny as a routine TPTB have determined to be Komedy, complete with awful song choice, woeful costuming, props that belong in a low-rate panto and the giant arrow we've had pointed to them all of the previous week on ITT and the succeeding week saying "LAUGH NOW, THIS IS FUNNY". Now, perhaps the fault for this lies a bit with Zoe, for whom everything is a superlative - nothing is as funny/beautiful etc as it relates to each interview, after all and I often wonder if she actually sees any of the show at all through the mist of tears she claims to have over every slow dance or was dancing along with every fast dance.

On a different note, I just went back and rewatched lots of old jives - Louisa, Kelly, Alesha (as well as my favourites of Chelsee, Jay and Scott - it's really hard finding his on YT if you can only remember his name as being Scoooooooooooooooooooooootttttttttttttttt, btw.) and must mourn the camera work from earlier series.

Exactly what we thought. This is why my husband said, when they had finished the dance, "Not what I would call a jive"!

Regarding being told what to like, the Hallowe'en rubbish is being shoved down our throats and we are told that "Everyone loves Hallowe'en"! No we don't!

This is the real problem for me. I hate children's TV, not having any kids nor ever wanting any, and I find the presenters over-bright (not in the brains sense) over-effusive and just too much full on. Ore seems that way to me, he could be the best dancer in the world but his persona is like nails down a blackboard to me. He is a Snowdon - good but too annoying.


Yep, I've been seeing the Uriah connection for a few weeks. I keep waiting for him to dip his head and put his hand on his heart at the judges' comments.


I can see someone geting thrown out for not supporting said celeb, but to be thrown out for actual appreciating - that is a real achievement. I am in awe.


I'm not sure I would say forum-born monster, but I do think there are definite shorthand suits that we put on people, such as the Bot, the Pet, the Hammy and so on. I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing though, for me it just adds to the enjoyment of the show. Once the series is over I probably won't come across any of these contestants again and it won't affect how I view their non-SCD work, mainly because I won't see it! And I'm not sure we see the real bloke or the real woman on these things anyway, the celebs are clearly picked to a formula and have been since the Rachbot/Bacofoil series - the comedy one, the 'good' one, the old but surprisingly good one, the Sportsman, the could be good but can't let go one, the good but can't stand them one, the bloody hell where did that come from they're superb one.

🙌🙌 Go you!

App threads can be a tricky place especially when established fans of the celeb find it. It all gets a bit awkward if they have a bad week as that suddenly becomes the pros fault and "they'd have done so much better if paired with...."

I've had to stick up for a pro in an app thread before!

Marian Keyes puts it best

The definitive "taking agin" rules.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MarianKeyes/status/768105212569591809

Ore could have been doing cartwheels most of the way through. My eyes were distracted by Jwanne's almost constant knicker flashing.

I didn't realise it was possible to get people thrown out of a thread.
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