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Old 04-12-2015, 15:33
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Can't remember who said it, possibly Ian Waite or Matt Cutler, but they certainly made comments that they spent a lot of time in the first 3 weeks of training teaching their celeb the basics of a few dances, not just concentrating on their first dance, which seems a very sensible way to go, getting the foundations down.
Erin definitely did that.
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Old 04-12-2015, 15:35
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And completely change my mind 2 days later. I don't think I've ever spent more time driving down Strictly cul-de-sacs of unappreciationto then abruptly reverse straight back out again.
Hoping nobody has noted the slight ... detour ...
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Old 04-12-2015, 15:36
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Can't remember who said it, possibly Ian Waite or Matt Cutler, but they certainly made comments that they spent a lot of time in the first 3 weeks of training teaching their celeb the basics of a few dances, not just concentrating on their first dance, which seems a very sensible way to go, getting the foundations down.
I remember Matt Cutler doing it which was probably why Alesha was so comfortable completely blagging that paso

(And going in the wrong direction totally during her foxtrot)
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Old 04-12-2015, 15:36
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Im not sure I agree LF, sorry, but then I can take or leave Helen. She's not rubbish, but she's not as good as the judges are telling me she is either and every year I do this, I blame the celeb not the judges. All the way back to NotClooney, my problem with her was always that judges overlooked faults or downright shit in her that they wouldn't in anyone else.

Helen's rumba was poor and got a ridiculous score.

But saying all of that, I really do love Helen the person. She's quirky and funny and sweet, but Helen the Latin dancer, ewww..not for me. Her ballrooms are a dream though.o

And she's better than Anita, Kellie and Katie at least.

Eta: not in any way aimed at you, just a random stream of my consciousness leading on from your post. You, Sofakat and Coppertop see something in her that I generally don't.
to be fair, I was really thinking about Jay, I personally think he's far from the finished article, but he has got something very few people have...a way of moving that just says 'dancer'
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Old 04-12-2015, 15:36
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But if you are a teacher and love your subject, and have a captive student - for a quarter of a year - wouldn't you want to actually teach? By signing to the show, the celebs indicate they are open to learning a new skill, whether they've had the urge in the past or not so for the actual teacher that's at least half the battle!
I guess so, but also there are subjects which I thought I would love, 1 month later hated them and just tried to get by doing the bare minimum while passing.

I dont think I am explaining myself that well. I do think that Anita wanted to learn to dance of course, but I feel (like others have mentioned before here) that she wants to learn more the dance they are doing on a Saturday, so that she is back next week, rather than learn how to dance the Rumba or the waltz. Its the challenge mentality.

It is not to say that she doesn't enjoy the dance itself as I clearly have heard her to say every single week, but I would imagine she would be the exact same attitude if it was Masterchef. (Which is not a bad thing per se, I just dont get any of the joy of dancing from her just a very good performer.)

But, of course, I may be wrong.
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Old 04-12-2015, 15:36
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Can't remember who said it, possibly Ian Waite or Matt Cutler, but they certainly made comments that they spent a lot of time in the first 3 weeks of training teaching their celeb the basics of a few dances, not just concentrating on their first dance, which seems a very sensible way to go, getting the foundations down.
Strangely enough, I remember Anton saying it as well in one of the earlier series ... I mean Anton!
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Old 04-12-2015, 15:38
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Stick with a different bunny, 🐇 at least they have an off switch.
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Old 04-12-2015, 15:41
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to be fair, I was really thinking about Jay, I personally think he's far from the finished article, but he has got something very few people have...a way of moving that just says 'dancer'
He does, which you would never guess looking at his caveman/builder walk in normal life

Strangely enough, I remember Anton saying it as well in one of the earlier series ... I mean Anton!
I'd guess he doesn't include much Latin in that
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Old 04-12-2015, 15:41
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I guess so, but also there are subjects which I thought I would love, 1 month later hated them and just tried to get by doing the bare minimum while passing.

I dont think I am explaining myself that well. I do think that Anita wanted to learn to dance of course, but I feel (like others have mentioned before here) that she wants to learn more the dance they are doing on a Saturday, so that she is back next week, rather than learn how to dance the Rumba or the waltz. Its the challenge mentality.

It is not to say that she doesn't enjoy the dance itself as I clearly have heard her to say every single week, but I would imagine she would be the exact same attitude if it was Masterchef. (Which is not a bad thing per se, I just dont get any of the joy of dancing from her just a very good performer.)

But, of course, I am be wrong.
No, I agree with that totally (not the last sentence, but the rest of it ).

I just wonder if a teacher with a joy of what they are teaching might have given her a bit more joy in it as well. When the teacher is bish-bash-bosh it doesn't help if the pupil tends towards that as well.
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Old 04-12-2015, 15:46
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I'm very late catching up.

I find the language stuff fascinating (once wanted to study linguistics but it seemed alarmingly like maths on closer inspection)

I don't believe prawns, tomatoes or nuts, I'm firmly in the camp of filler - somebody needs to do a cover version of Carly Simon's classic "You're so vain", just for Gleb (although having seen that remark to Anita I could very well believe GBH and she'd have my full support in that!)

If something not too nasty but incapacitating happened to TTF, who would step in to dance with Kellie? it might be worth having a word with Daniel O'D to see if it could be arranged
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Old 04-12-2015, 15:48
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[quote=Agent Krycek;80612721]He does, which you would never guess looking at his caveman/builder walk in normal life


That's part of the attraction - the total surprise when you see him suddenly morph into this creature that flows...I guess that's what Aliona picked up early on and why she was genuinely pleased to be paired off with him
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Old 04-12-2015, 15:48
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No, I agree with that totally (not the last sentence, but the rest of it ).

I just wonder if a teacher with a joy of what they are teaching might have given her a bit more joy in it as well. When the teacher is bish-bash-bosh it doesn't help if the pupil tends towards that as well.
Yes, teachers are essential. And a great teacher is the one that know how to adapt his style of teaching to the pupil and/or circumstances. While Gleb is new on Strictly, he has done it in three other countries versions, albeit most for just one season.

I just would like to see Gleb with another celeb on Strictly before making my mind up with him.
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Old 04-12-2015, 15:51
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I'm very late catching up.

I find the language stuff fascinating (once wanted to study linguistics but it seemed alarmingly like maths on closer inspection)

I don't believe prawns, tomatoes or nuts, I'm firmly in the camp of filler - somebody needs to do a cover version of Carly Simon's classic "You're so vain", just for Gleb (although having seen that remark to Anita I could very well believe GBH and she'd have my full support in that!)

If something not too nasty but incapacitating happened to TTF, who would step in to dance with Kellie? it might be worth having a word with Daniel O'D to see if it could be arranged
Languages are fascinating. I did linguistics, language and literature at uni. Loved linguistics!
I would guess Brenda for Anita and Pasha for Kellie.
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Old 04-12-2015, 16:01
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I'm very late catching up.

I find the language stuff fascinating (once wanted to study linguistics but it seemed alarmingly like maths on closer inspection)

I don't believe prawns, tomatoes or nuts, I'm firmly in the camp of filler - somebody needs to do a cover version of Carly Simon's classic "You're so vain", just for Gleb (although having seen that remark to Anita I could very well believe GBH and she'd have my full support in that!)

If something not too nasty but incapacitating happened to TTF, who would step in to dance with Kellie? it might be worth having a word with Daniel O'D to see if it could be arranged
I did study it and it isn't really mathsey or it needn't be. I stayed with the socio/pshyco stuff mostly although had to do phonetics and also did a course in Articial Speech generation and recognition which get a bit into the realm of hard numbers.

The hardest bit was Chomsky's transformational grammar - really struggled with that .
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Old 04-12-2015, 16:13
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I did study it and it isn't really mathsey or it needn't be. I stayed with the socio/pshyco stuff mostly although had to do phonetics and also did a course in Articial Speech generation and recognition which get a bit into the realm of hard numbers.

The hardest bit was Chomsky's transformational grammar - really struggled with that .
BIB really? that was my all time favourite bit of my uni studies. It really resonated with me.

I never did Artificial speech though.
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Old 04-12-2015, 16:24
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When I see the word Latin here I don't think about Latin American dances, my mind goes first to the language! I only did it to A level, didn't carry on to uni (tho' Old French takes a lot from Latin) but now I'm singing some church music in Latin, it's like an old friend - I love it.
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Old 04-12-2015, 16:28
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I keep on reading references to Kellie wearing a light up skirt. Where is this?
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Old 04-12-2015, 16:30
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She wore it in training on ITT, I think it was Wednesday? possibly the day before - because I haven't seen yesterday's yet.
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Old 04-12-2015, 16:31
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I keep on reading references to Kellie wearing a light up skirt. Where is this?
On the first bit of training footage shown, she had a pink long tutu style skirt on, with fairy lights seemingly sewed into it It was a bit weird to be honest
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Old 04-12-2015, 16:32
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Honestly, you lot are NO GOOD for our reputation. We are not meant to be intelligent, articulate women (mostly) with varied and wide ranging interests, we are spotty arsed jellus, bitter, hating airheads! Got it?
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Old 04-12-2015, 16:34
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Mine doesn't even sit in the same room.
Mine's a contrary sod. I either have to watch it on the laptop or escape to another tv. He'll start sneering and making sarky comments (he's not happy unless it's rugby or Family Guy) but if he was catch say Helen's VW last week unawares, he would watch it transfixed and enjoy it. He gets put off by the filler, the silly vts, Tess, screeching singers and so on.
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Old 04-12-2015, 16:38
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Mine's a contrary sod. I either have to watch it on the laptop or escape to another tv. He'll start sneering and making sarky comments (he's not happy unless it's rugby or Family Guy) but if he was catch say Helen's VW last week unawares, he would watch it transfixed and enjoy it. He gets put off by the filler, the silly vts, Tess, screeching singers and so on.
My housemate is the same. I always watch on the computer upstairs. A few years back I tried watching it on the TV in the living room but though he doesn't like it, he wouldn't leave the room and sat in the armchair with his newspaper, turning each page with a lour rustling flourish and making sarky comments so I couldn't hear properly. Not worth the annoyance!
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Old 04-12-2015, 16:41
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When I see the word Latin here I don't think about Latin American dances, my mind goes first to the language! I only did it to A level, didn't carry on to uni (tho' Old French takes a lot from Latin) but now I'm singing some church music in Latin, it's like an old friend - I love it.
Funny! If i am in here I am thinking in english so Latin means latin dancing. If I am thinking in Spanish, then its Latín, the language, so they sound completely different.

I ad to do four years. It wasn't easy. But the end was worth it.

Honestly, you lot are NO GOOD for our reputation. We are not meant to be intelligent, articulate women (mostly) with varied and wide ranging interests, we are spotty arsed jellus, bitter, hating airheads! Got it?
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Old 04-12-2015, 16:47
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I'm very late catching up.

I find the language stuff fascinating (once wanted to study linguistics but it seemed alarmingly like maths on closer inspection)

I don't believe prawns, tomatoes or nuts, I'm firmly in the camp of filler - somebody needs to do a cover version of Carly Simon's classic "You're so vain", just for Gleb (although having seen that remark to Anita I could very well believe GBH and she'd have my full support in that!)

If something not too nasty but incapacitating happened to TTF, who would step in to dance with Kellie? it might be worth having a word with Daniel O'D to see if it could be arranged
For all the dedicated followers of Gleb, including his non-fans; I think, it would have to be Carly's "Man on My Mind."
"I've got my mind on my man again....I've got my man on my mind...."
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Old 04-12-2015, 16:51
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For all the dedicated followers of Gleb, including his non-fans; I think, it would have to be Carly's "Man on My Mind."
"I've got my mind on my man again....I've got my man on my mind...."


Can you be a dedicated follower and a non fan?

Although I'll always see him with his filler fat lip from now on, so I don't mind having him in my mind
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