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The only person that got higher marks was Louise, and even on this board, which is very agin Louise (indeed, anything partnered with a Clifton) and very pro Danny she's pulling in comparable %s on the "Who Danced It Best This Week" poll on the front page to him. Everyone else got low 30s with the judges, which is what you'd expect the middling dancers to get at this point. If anything I think Cloudia was a mite underscored.
The only person I think is being consistantly overmarked (other than maybe Ore) (alright definitely Ore) is Ed. An 8 for that cha cha at Hallowe'en was, to be honest, the most ludicrous overmarking I've seen on this show since Len started giving Widdy 7s just for turning up. But it's a fun feelgood storyline so I'm fine with them doing it because we've all seen what happens when they give the crummy "comedy contestants" the marks they deserve compared to everyone else. |
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Absolutely. James would have no compunction in spilling the beans, if there were beans to spill.
I suspect that there are a couple of celebs who only agree to sign up on condition that they get their preferred Professional (ie Widdecombe insisted on Anton), but for the majority the launch show IS when they are told their partnerships. Some may have inklings depending on how group dances have gone, and there are some pairings that HAVE to happen for height reasons. but it is not until the launch show that they are certain It amazes me that people continue to insist otherwise Had no internet yesterday catching up now...Quote:
I'm prepared for it to be a Danny train that stops at Cloudier station. I'd be happy for either of them to win it - they're both excellent dancers but get ignored for some reason by the judges.
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It's a bit meh - but also uncomfortable at the same time
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I have danced salsa for 20 years and have taken classes from here to Havana and from some internationally renowned teachers and nobody, but nobody ever mentioned figure of eight hips.
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I thought that was pretty good. I don't usually like quicksteps but that was pretty fun. He's very light on his feet and he doesn't actually miss any steps, which is better than most of the comedy acts we get.
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The only person who's really come close to Pasha's vt acting genius is Judy Murray- "I feel... sparkly" *wipes tear* 😂
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I believe we've just witnessed Joe Varney's "starfish"
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Bruno not even hiding his bias <3
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That was lovely (Wasn't it, Oksana?)
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They always are. Strictly ATs seem obsessed with lamp posts, hat stands and chairs
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Poor Greg following that
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Yep. *Shrugs* To be fair I have seen worse ATs on Strictly but where was the basic?
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Full on BABY WARZ ENGAGE!!! <3
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I was riveted by his arse, I don't think it was sticking out as much this week
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Credit to AJ (or outside choreographers if they're involved) but all of their routines actually look like the dance they're meant to, despite the hideously inappropriate music.
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How lovely, three ties on the leaderboard. If it weren't for Daisy having landed there before, I would say ZOMG SHOCKBOOT INCOMING!
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Much unappreciating that pink frock Cloudier ended up in. Do they have a job lot? I could have sworn Laura and Giovanni got inflicted with something similar for their quickstep, although possibly not as eye-searing.
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She'd never make a living as a Lady of the Night in Buenos Aires though, not with the modesty panel and sensible skirt.
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I get the feeling Danny will do a Tom Chambers and have a veeeeeeeery long West End career out of this. His sense of rhythm and timing is brilliant, and he looks so good when he's doing it. He absolutely gives me the Gene Kelly vibe as well - a beautiful dancer who looks effortless but sells every step.
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Do you know what annoys me most about TTF? That at the start he actually stands still and counts Louise in so that he can do his stupid little kick. Someone on here mentioned it and ever since it's made my teeth itch!
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I think it's a presumption that they haven't expected it though. All of Ed, Rinder and Greg have been built up well by the show. Ed gets constant good performance slots and loads of publicity and the judges (and Katya) are playing it just right to have him be a Comedy Contestant everyone gets behind rather than one everyone has spats over. Greg has had pretty good storylining week on week (a sympathetic injury porn VT here, a "Craig criticises Natalie, Craig praises Natalie" one-two storyline there). Rinder has done comedy routines to build up his fanbase and is now "showing he can really dance" with a quickstep aimed directly at the show's older or Purity Of Dahnce voters.
Compare this with a "chaser" or "trier" like, say Sunetra or a Hairy Dave or Thom Evans for whom they had very little to say and who just kind of existed. Claudia I'm mixed on - they've given her a pro who's pretty much anti-charismatic, which isn't helping, but she has had the Pimp Slot twice and the "y'know, for the kids?" songchoices feel like an earnest but misguided attempt at branding her to make her memorable. At the other end, I dislike the insistence on a Danny vs Ore storyline. It does neither of them any favours. Louise and Claudier are swimming in the slipstream of that story - I really disliked that AT, and C's music choices are just bizarre at this stage. I find it odd that they have pimp slotted her twice, on some slightly questionable dances, and didn't pimp the hell out of her Charleston though? |
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Lots of tied scores helps Ed more than anyone else, as it leaves less of a hill to climb in public support.
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Lots of tied scores helps Ed more than anyone else, as it leaves less of a hill to climb in public support.
the bbc way 1. Louise and Kevin: 39 (9 Judges Points) 2. Danny and Oti: 38 (8) 3. Daisy and Aljaz: 34 (7) =. Ore and Joanne: 34 (7) 5. Claudia and AJ: 33 (6) =. Judge Rinder and Oksana: 33 (6) 7. Greg and Natalie: 32 (5) =. Laura and Giovanni: 32 (5) 9. Ed and Katya: 27 (4) How it should be done 1. Louise and Kevin: 39 (9 Judges Points) 2. Danny and Oti: 38 (8) 3. Daisy and Aljaz: 34 (7) =. Ore and Joanne: 34 (7) 5. Claudia and AJ: 33 (5) =. Judge Rinder and Oksana: 33 (5) 7. Greg and Natalie: 32 (3) =. Laura and Giovanni: 32 (3) 9. Ed and Katya: 27 (1) In competition if there is a tied position eg 2nd then the next place called is 4th |
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Looking back to last year, weren't we down to three men right about now - Peter, Jay and Jeremy?
Admittedly there is no clear Jay among the remaining women, but that's not to say one of them won't astound us all and win the thing.
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my biggest bug bear is the way the bbc deal with tied scores
the bbc way 1. Louise and Kevin: 39 (9 Judges Points) 2. Danny and Oti: 38 (8) 3. Daisy and Aljaz: 34 (7) =. Ore and Joanne: 34 (7) 5. Claudia and AJ: 33 (6) =. Judge Rinder and Oksana: 33 (6) 7. Greg and Natalie: 32 (5) =. Laura and Giovanni: 32 (5) 9. Ed and Katya: 27 (4) How it should be done 1. Louise and Kevin: 39 (9 Judges Points) 2. Danny and Oti: 38 (8) 3. Daisy and Aljaz: 34 (7) =. Ore and Joanne: 34 (7) 5. Claudia and AJ: 33 (5) =. Judge Rinder and Oksana: 33 (5) 7. Greg and Natalie: 32 (3) =. Laura and Giovanni: 32 (3) 9. Ed and Katya: 27 (1) In competition if there is a tied position eg 2nd then the next place called is 4th ![]() I just think the judges should be made to break the ties and rank the tied couples (I seem to remember them having to do it in a Christmas Special once?) so that each couple has a separate place on the leaderboard. You are paid, and paid quite nicely, to Judge - so judge and break the ties ... and if you can't, then don't get grumpy when the public vote has to do it for you. |
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my biggest bug bear is the way the bbc deal with tied scores
the bbc way 1. Louise and Kevin: 39 (9 Judges Points) 2. Danny and Oti: 38 (8) 3. Daisy and Aljaz: 34 (7) =. Ore and Joanne: 34 (7) 5. Claudia and AJ: 33 (6) =. Judge Rinder and Oksana: 33 (6) 7. Greg and Natalie: 32 (5) =. Laura and Giovanni: 32 (5) 9. Ed and Katya: 27 (4) How it should be done 1. Louise and Kevin: 39 (9 Judges Points) 2. Danny and Oti: 38 (8) 3. Daisy and Aljaz: 34 (7) =. Ore and Joanne: 34 (7) 5. Claudia and AJ: 33 (5) =. Judge Rinder and Oksana: 33 (5) 7. Greg and Natalie: 32 (3) =. Laura and Giovanni: 32 (3) 9. Ed and Katya: 27 (1) In competition if there is a tied position eg 2nd then the next place called is 4th My own preference would be that if there are ties on the final scoreboard, the judges should individually and without conferring rank the dancers, then redo the scoreboard. If there are still ties, the judges agree a rank and/or head judge decides and/or the studio audience decides like they do for Christmas specials. Anything to stop ties basically! |
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Yes, but the whole debacle of the series 6 semi final put pay to that
![]() I just think the judges should be made to break the ties and rank the tied couples (I seem to remember them having to do it in a Christmas Special once?) so that each couple has a separate place on the leaderboard. You are paid, and paid quite nicely, to Judge - so judge and break the ties ... and if you can't, then don't get grumpy when the public vote has to do it for you. |
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Yes, but the whole debacle of the series 6 semi final put pay to that
![]() I just think the judges should be made to break the ties and rank the tied couples (I seem to remember them having to do it in a Christmas Special once?) so that each couple has a separate place on the leaderboard. |
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My spidey senses say Cloudia could nip in and take it and that there will be some sort of power voting situation in manner of series 5 round about quarter/semi final time. If any of the celebs feel like a nice little sit down mid routine - that would be the time
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Are you watching the right channel Aggs? That sounds more like the US election situation you have in mind.
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Unappreciating ^! I'm dreading waking up on the morning of the US election result
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They did. It was...the Christmas Special immediately after Series 6. Kelly, Jill, Alesha and Rachel all got 39 so Len had to put them in order - Alesha first, then Jill, then Rachel, then Kelly. Then Jill won and Kelly came second, raising the very real possibility that Kelly had in fact somehow won a public vote.
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I bloody knew they would start pushing for Ed to make it to Blackpool. Arrrrgh
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I just think the judges should be made to break the ties and rank the tied couples (I seem to remember them having to do it in a Christmas Special once?) so that each couple has a separate place on the leaderboard. You are paid, and paid quite nicely, to Judge - so judge and break the ties ... and if you can't, then don't get grumpy when the public vote has to do it for you. |
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My spidey senses say Cloudia could nip in and take it and that there will be some sort of power voting situation in manner of series 5 round about quarter/semi final time. If any of the celebs feel like a nice little sit down mid routine - that would be the time
![]() Reading back catalogue SCD is the only thing that is keeping me slightly able to cope with a world that might genuinely be prepared to elect Donald Trump. Be nice if Cloudier can nip in. Not sure how they'll manage an AT for her and AJ though given that the story so far is that they're both cute 10 year olds. There may have to be some enforced growing up before that happens. |
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I've only been watching since Abbey's year and Monkseal only goes back to Series 6, so I'm curious to know what happened?
Reading back catalogue SCD is the only thing that is keeping me slightly able to cope with a world that might genuinely be prepared to elect Donald Trump. Be nice if Cloudier can nip in. Not sure how they'll manage an AT for her and AJ though given that the story so far is that they're both cute 10 year olds. There may have to be some enforced growing up before that happens. |
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Another way to avoid too many ties is for the judges to be able to award half marks. For example 8.5, 9.5 etc. They would need more paddles or an electronic system.
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think either AT or rumba can be a problem for then height difference more than anything else
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I had forgotten about the rumba. How could the height difference be overcome, out of interest? It must be a problem that dancers other than Cloudier and AJ face.
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I've only been watching since Abbey's year and Monkseal only goes back to Series 6, so I'm curious to know what happened?
Reading back catalogue SCD is the only thing that is keeping me slightly able to cope with a world that might genuinely be prepared to elect Donald Trump. Be nice if Cloudier can nip in. Not sure how they'll manage an AT for her and AJ though given that the story so far is that they're both cute 10 year olds. There may have to be some enforced growing up before that happens. . Flexes fingers.Grab a chaise lounge and a glass of your choice young padawan while we begin your history lesson ![]() Long, long ago in a studio far, far away ... Main players: Tom Chambers (Smug vicar) Rachel Stevens (Rachbot) Lisa Snowden (NotClooney) Austen Healy (Wuz Robbed). Same as this series with a tactical withdrawal from John Sargent*, it meant the later stages were a bit light, especially with the dance off. Rachel and Lisa were judges favourites, but less so with the public Quarter final, two dance week. Brendan plays a tactical card and concentrates on the waltz with Lisa, scoring 40. Bottom 2 are Austen and Lisa with Austen having tomdance off against a 40 scoring Waltz, so Wuz Robbed, then and forever. Fast forward a week to a 3 person semi final - with the dance off still a thing going to happen. The judges manage to score Lisa and Rachel the same meaning: Rachel = 3 points Lisa = 3 points Tom = 1 point. Bearing in mind from the minute the phone lines opened the line was 'vote to save your favourite from the dance off' with those numbers that couldn't happen. Even if Tom topped the public vote (which he fairly obviously was) he couldn't avoid the dance off. Coupled with that, it was also fairly clear that in a dance off - he would go. Much stressing at Strictly Towers and consulting of the famous Big Book Of Strictly Rules Written On The Hoof resulted in no elimination and all the votes and scores being rolled over to the final. As a result of that, the tied points have been weighted towards the couple at the bottom of the board rather than the top. So we had a 3 couple final and the gloriousness of Bacofoil. (* it should be mentioned that the JS situation had led to a very grumpy series before that. While he was in, he was getting flak for getting the public vote and going through while better dancers went home. When he pulled out he got flak for not respecting the public vote. James Jordan held both of these views simultaneously on a couple of special edition ITT's which have yet to be beaten) |
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Perhaps Cloudier could borrow Brenda's hover board.
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Ooh, how long have you got
. Flexes fingers.Grab a chaise lounge and a glass of your choice young padawan while we begin your history lesson ![]() Long, long ago in a studio far, far away ... Main players: Tom Chambers (Smug vicar) Rachel Stevens (Rachbot) Lisa Snowden (NotClooney) Austen Healy (Wuz Robbed). ... trimmed for length... and the gloriousness of Bacofoil. That is hilarious. I can imagine the backstage ructions when that particular bit of nonsense flared up. Who broke the glad tidings that Tom could not possibly avoid the DO I wonder?
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Another way to avoid too many ties is for the judges to be able to award half marks. For example 8.5, 9.5 etc. They would need more paddles or an electronic system.
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(* it should be mentioned that the JS situation had led to a very grumpy series before that. While he was in, he was getting flak for getting the public vote and going through while better dancers went home. When he pulled out he got flak for not respecting the public vote. James Jordan held both of these views simultaneously on a couple of special edition ITT's which have yet to be beaten)
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That is hilarious. I can imagine the backstage ructions when that particular bit of nonsense flared up. Who broke the glad tidings that Tom could not possibly avoid the DO I wonder?