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Old 06-11-2016, 16:19
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Ooh, how long have you got . Flexes fingers.
Grab a chaise lounge and a glass of your choice young padawan while we begin your history lesson

Long, long ago in a studio far, far away ...
Main players:
Tom Chambers (Smug vicar)
Rachel Stevens (Rachbot)
Lisa Snowden (NotClooney)
Austen Healy (Wuz Robbed).

Same as this series with a tactical withdrawal from John Sargent*, it meant the later stages were a bit light, especially with the dance off. Rachel and Lisa were judges favourites, but less so with the public Quarter final, two dance week. Brendan plays a tactical card and concentrates on the waltz with Lisa, scoring 40. Bottom 2 are Austen and Lisa with Austen having tomdance off against a 40 scoring Waltz, so Wuz Robbed, then and forever.

Fast forward a week to a 3 person semi final - with the dance off still a thing going to happen. The judges manage to score Lisa and Rachel the same meaning:
Rachel = 3 points
Lisa = 3 points
Tom = 1 point.

Bearing in mind from the minute the phone lines opened the line was 'vote to save your favourite from the dance off' with those numbers that couldn't happen. Even if Tom topped the public vote (which he fairly obviously was) he couldn't avoid the dance off. Coupled with that, it was also fairly clear that in a dance off - he would go. Much stressing at Strictly Towers and consulting of the famous Big Book Of Strictly Rules Written On The Hoof resulted in no elimination and all the votes and scores being rolled over to the final. As a result of that, the tied points have been weighted towards the couple at the bottom of the board rather than the top.

So we had a 3 couple final and the gloriousness of Bacofoil.

(* it should be mentioned that the JS situation had led to a very grumpy series before that. While he was in, he was getting flak for getting the public vote and going through while better dancers went home. When he pulled out he got flak for not respecting the public vote. James Jordan held both of these views simultaneously on a couple of special edition ITT's which have yet to be beaten)


And bleats quietly, ALL of that could and still can be avoided if the DO was abolished
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Old 06-11-2016, 16:19
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Brendan plays a tactical card and concentrates on the waltz with Lisa, scoring 40. Bottom 2 are Austen and Lisa with Austen having tomdance off against a 40 scoring Waltz, so Wuz Robbed, then and forever.
See, this is what I don't understand. Why did Austen have to perform his weaker Latin against Lisa's stronger ballroom? Austen's other dance that week was very good - why wasn't he allowed to use that one in the dance off?
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Old 06-11-2016, 16:23
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A glorious summary for which I thank you That is hilarious. I can imagine the backstage ructions when that particular bit of nonsense flared up. Who broke the glad tidings that Tom could not possibly avoid the DO I wonder?
So does that mean you've never seen Bacofoil, with DS comments?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAZ0nOmfWwY
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Old 06-11-2016, 16:28
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And bleats quietly, ALL of that could and still can be avoided if the DO was abolished
DO is very useful for allowing the judges to keep in good dancers (and, unfortunately, judges' pets) who might otherwise be eliminated by accident (we've all seen times where sometimes a good dancer falls into the B2 because people don't realize their favourite is in danger). The other way to do things, of course, is to insist on the other 3 judges using their full range of paddles.

And we may think of Jay's Jive, Kartem's rumba, Alesha's cha cha etc. being Strictly gold, but nothing compares to bacofoil
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Old 06-11-2016, 16:32
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See, this is what I don't understand. Why did Austen have to perform his weaker Latin against Lisa's stronger ballroom? Austen's other dance that week was very good - why wasn't he allowed to use that one in the dance off?
Must correct self - said 40, but Waltz actually scored 39
Both of Austen's dances scored less - he had a 34 & 36.
Basically, he was toast whatever he did.
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Old 06-11-2016, 16:32
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And bleats quietly, ALL of that could and still can be avoided if the DO was abolished
Heck yeah 😕
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Old 06-11-2016, 16:33
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But it doesn't stop good dancers, look at Helen last year.
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Old 06-11-2016, 16:35
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See, this is what I don't understand. Why did Austen have to perform his weaker Latin against Lisa's stronger ballroom? Austen's other dance that week was very good - why wasn't he allowed to use that one in the dance off?
Back then you had to do your highest scoring dance of the night in the dance-off - they didn't let you pick and choose like they do now.
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Old 06-11-2016, 16:37
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DO is very useful for allowing the judges to keep in good dancers (and, unfortunately, judges' pets) who might otherwise be eliminated by accident (we've all seen times where sometimes a good dancer falls into the B2 because people don't realize their favourite is in danger). The other way to do things, of course, is to insist on the other 3 judges using their full range of paddles.

And we may think of Jay's Jive, Kartem's rumba, Alesha's cha cha etc. being Strictly gold, but nothing compares to bacofoil
There's actually less chance of that happening without the dance off
All that happens with the dance off is that the 'unsafe' area is pushed higher.
Rather than trying to keep your favourite from being dead last - it goes up to 'out the bottom 2' which means that celebs who are second and even third from bottom get a vote boost.
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Old 06-11-2016, 16:43
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A glorious summary for which I thank you That is hilarious. I can imagine the backstage ructions when that particular bit of nonsense flared up. Who broke the glad tidings that Tom could not possibly avoid the DO I wonder?
I seem to remember it had been talked about in a 'ha, ha imagine if' sort of way for the week before - but as soon as the leaderboard was finalised it went a bit crackers . I think DS crashed (it did that a lot that series) and the batphone started to ring off the hook in Strictly Towers. Fun times
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Old 06-11-2016, 16:49
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I seem to remember it had been talked about in a 'ha, ha imagine if' sort of way for the week before - but as soon as the leaderboard was finalised it went a bit crackers . I think DS crashed (it did that a lot that series) and the batphone started to ring off the hook in Strictly Towers. Fun times
I've always liked to imagine that the judges had it all planned out in a Phoebe's plan laugh kind of way. And they were foiled.

"And they would have gotten away with it too if it hadn't been for that meddling DS" 😂😂
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Old 06-11-2016, 16:50
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Ooh, how long have you got . Flexes fingers.
Grab a chaise lounge and a glass of your choice young padawan while we begin your history lesson

Long, long ago in a studio far, far away ...
Main players:
Tom Chambers (Smug vicar)
Rachel Stevens (Rachbot)
Lisa Snowden (NotClooney)
Austen Healy (Wuz Robbed).

Same as this series with a tactical withdrawal from John Sargent*, it meant the later stages were a bit light, especially with the dance off. Rachel and Lisa were judges favourites, but less so with the public Quarter final, two dance week. Brendan plays a tactical card and concentrates on the waltz with Lisa, scoring 40. Bottom 2 are Austen and Lisa with Austen having tomdance off against a 40 scoring Waltz, so Wuz Robbed, then and forever.

Fast forward a week to a 3 person semi final - with the dance off still a thing going to happen. The judges manage to score Lisa and Rachel the same meaning:
Rachel = 3 points
Lisa = 3 points
Tom = 1 point.

Bearing in mind from the minute the phone lines opened the line was 'vote to save your favourite from the dance off' with those numbers that couldn't happen. Even if Tom topped the public vote (which he fairly obviously was) he couldn't avoid the dance off. Coupled with that, it was also fairly clear that in a dance off - he would go. Much stressing at Strictly Towers and consulting of the famous Big Book Of Strictly Rules Written On The Hoof resulted in no elimination and all the votes and scores being rolled over to the final. As a result of that, the tied points have been weighted towards the couple at the bottom of the board rather than the top.

So we had a 3 couple final and the gloriousness of Bacofoil.

(* it should be mentioned that the JS situation had led to a very grumpy series before that. While he was in, he was getting flak for getting the public vote and going through while better dancers went home. When he pulled out he got flak for not respecting the public vote. James Jordan held both of these views simultaneously on a couple of special edition ITT's which have yet to be beaten)
Schrodinger's Jimmy

Thank you, v informative - those series were before my time although I have watched the annotated Bacofoil Snowdance on YouTube more than twice.

But it doesn't stop good dancers, look at Helen last year.
Don't, just don't!
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Old 06-11-2016, 16:51
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So does that mean you've never seen Bacofoil, with DS comments?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAZ0nOmfWwY
It should be required viewing as an initiation rite for the thread.
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Old 06-11-2016, 17:01
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That was comedy gold and I still at the memory.
Somewhere in the cellar, out of reach of the DS search function is a thread with the ITT transcript. I just remember it being fabulous
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Old 06-11-2016, 17:14
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that vid should come with a health warning
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Old 06-11-2016, 17:20
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Somewhere in the cellar, out of reach of the DS search function is a thread with the ITT transcript. I just remember it being fabulous
Fear not: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=935902
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Old 06-11-2016, 17:24
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Old 06-11-2016, 17:27
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*blows kisses*

I can pinpoint down to the second of that transcript my first moment of actually ever liking Anton (then of course Series 7 and 8 happened and it took a while to come back again..).
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Old 06-11-2016, 17:29
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😘😘😘😘
How did you do that
Abracadabra!

Or Avada Kedavra, even, depending on one's particular inclinations.
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Old 06-11-2016, 17:35
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So does that mean you've never seen Bacofoil, with DS comments?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAZ0nOmfWwY
That is the best thing I've ever seen.
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Old 06-11-2016, 17:45
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That is the best thing I've ever seen.
Here's the thread that inspired it - it's a long read but well worth it.

ETA: Oops - posted wrong link - here's the Lisa's Showdance thread opened by Mamaboogie ( a name you can't forget)

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...957099&page=42
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Old 06-11-2016, 17:50
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*blows kisses*

I can pinpoint down to the second of that transcript my first moment of actually ever liking Anton (then of course Series 7 and 8 happened and it took a whole to come back again..).
It's 'that's the show' for me
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Old 06-11-2016, 17:50
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Old 06-11-2016, 18:08
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So does that mean you've never seen Bacofoil, with DS comments?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAZ0nOmfWwY
I ... had not seen that.

Now I cannot unsee it and I will never think of Brenda the same way again. What the hell kind of evil gremlins leapt into his brain and birthed that?

Maybe it's better not to know.
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Old 06-11-2016, 18:09
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A glorious summary for which I thank you That is hilarious. I can imagine the backstage ructions when that particular bit of nonsense flared up. Who broke the glad tidings that Tom could not possibly avoid the DO I wonder?
I still believe to this day that it was rigged in favour of Tom (instead of the reverse). Long story short, Len (!) gave Rachel the lowest mark out of the judges for her AS (effectively causing the tie).

Fastforward to series 7 and another Len decision saw me out of Strictly only to return in series 9 again.

Yeah, votegate did leave it's mark on people (though for most people here it was for Austinwuzrobbed).
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