It's just so blatant though. Do the producers really think that the viewers are so dim that we won't notice what they're up to?
It could backfire spectacularly - people don't like being manipulated into voting.
It might be that they have seen how Ore is coming across, and are happy to throw him and Danny under a bus to ensure that Miss Magnolia and TTF get to the final.

Of course we are. We both know why that walk is so important, don't we?

Is it because that's how the lady of the night gets to her gaucho? *runs away very fast*

*sighs and rests head on keyboard, yet again*

Goddamit.

Just tried listening to a live version of Heard it Through the Grapevine whilst watching some AT from 2014.

It was not as awful as expected. The live HITTG is slightly slower and is less obviously soul based.

Never mind, we'll get a lamppost involved, that'll keep sofakat's happy

*runs away even faster than Wiskas *

The walk is important because if you're not careful the black felt trilby will fall off. *runs away very fast to hide behind wiskas*

ITT said their AT was 'fast and fun'. Don't tell sofakat, it'll finish her off.

I'm sorry, but I think you are reaching a bit. Until this week, Danny has had a unprecedented run of good music. That's 7 weeks worth. This is the first time he and Oti will have to fight against their music. If you were to argue for a conspiracy it would be the other way around - i.e. pro Danny. I'm not saying I'm glad he's got rotten music this time - I'm not. I'm displeased that anyone should have inappropriate music in any week.

Oh yes, a fast and fun AT. That's what we all want, isn't it? Those are the first two adjectives that spring to mind when you think AT.

*bites fist*

Don't worry Sofakat try a snifter of this to revive you.

*rummages in bag and passes Sofakat a small phial containing unspecified potion*







Don't worry its not smelling salts.






Its Laudanum!

Sounds like you have a really super tango walk there Aggs. It seems the cat thought you were a giant cat stalking him.

It's just the complete inappropriateness unnecessarily so that is so blantent. It's Jake and the Greek AT when they wanted to get rid of him all over again.

If the manoeuvre Danni into a bottom 2 and make him leave it will be Wuzz robbed all over the place.

The theme this year appears to be battle of the Cliftons in the final at all cost and it will cause so much ill feeling.
I really like the WUZZROBBED club , for me it started with Gethin and that waltz, through Austin and the whole manipulation, Pixie, Helen, Sophie and the non appearance of that series defining Charleston. Any other dance? Anyone of that series.

If anyone says TTF in his long socks with Susanna lying dead for ever Paso I will hunt you down and inflict real damage. I am at that stage of grief done denial, no doing anger!

He's not my cup of tea but he is young, pretty and male. The voters in the main are women over 25 and ladies of a certain age. He will get the votes even if he did the Macarena.

I don't want to open old wounds here -and I'm generally up on my wuzrobbed history- but how did the producers meddle with Geth's waltz? I dimly recall Monkseal saying that he must have had a bigger popular vote than Alesha but I can't remember how that must have been worked out.

You're very kind ... but no

I think it was the 3-way semi final + dance off?
I don't think it was Gethin's Waltz - but Matt's semi final 40 scoring Waltz?
Always hard in a dance off going against a perfect dance (whether it deserved it or not )

I'm not convinced anyone is trying to shaft Doti particularly, but I do think they might be trying to level the playing field somewhat. He was clearly the best natural dancer (ignoring ringerdom) from week 1. It looks to me as though the judges, whether consciously or not, are marking him to a different scale to the other contestants. If anything, it may help him not to have ever been a clear leaderboard leader.

As the competition levels out and the worse ones leave, it will all re-balance itself. On form, Greg, Ed and Daisy will go next (in no particular order) and then the war can really start.

I'm not sure whether to ask this in here or the Ballroom and Latin dancers thread but... Ian mentioned that Danny needed stillness to create light and shade in the routine. Is this something he can execute whatever or is it down to cheoreography to give him that opportunity? I thought the latter but Ian mentioned it yesterday so I wondered if a celebrity can do something to instigate that flow of movement?

Regarding Doti and Jore - my biggest concern is they both have relatively slow dances. The last time that happened, in week five when Doti had the Rumba and Jore the Waltz, it was a pretty dull show overall. Especially when you add into it this time that those with the fast dances aren't the most adept at them in Alisey, Edya and Natareg; all the accomplished dancers except for Alisey have ballroom or slow latin.

We might be relying on Gangnam Style to save the show!

To be honest, I think the person who is really eyeing the wheels of the bus is Ore. He gets a 'nice' rhumba with Jwann doing a slowed down version of the move he couldn't do last week. Bottom 2 bounce hasn't been such a 'thing' this year and I can see a Ore/Daisy dance off this weekend. Purely on training clips, can see Louise/Cloudia at the top and the rest sloting in depending on judges whim/ties.

I think it would be fair to assume that Ed, Rob and Greg are topping the public vote - and I'd say both Ed and Rob are playing to their strengths this week. Greg will depend on how much 'ole!' Nat has managed to get in.

[quote=sofakat;84518060
Ballroom people rally should not talk about AT unless they have studied it for at least 5-6 years. They have some very weird ideas about what it is, and they are always wrong! [/QUOTE]

To be fair, I'm not certain the posters concerned are ballroom dancers....

Think Danny will be safe. The only person who might beat him in a DO would be Twimsy, and if her public vote is low, the jooges will stick her at the top of the leaderboard out of harm's way. Hell, they'll do that anyway. Doti would thrash a Jore rhumba, and Cloudier's potential is still a little too unpolished to top him. Anyone else would be toast.

I still share the pain re Helen......

I think you're right there. A friendzone rumba is unlikely to get people's pulses racing and it will be hard for the judges to rave enthusiastically about it. Best case scenario for him may be a Natalie-styled slating and a sympathy bounce. A pity. Ore looks to have bags of natural talent and I'd like to see him around a bit longer.

Louise tends to look very good in training footage and doesn't seem able to deliver on the dancefloor - the nearest I've seen her coming to performing, rather than dancing well technically, was last week.

Greg's Paso may be the clincher. He still moves like a confused puppet, but it should suit him and I'm sure Natalie will come up with something suitably dramatic. Not sure Joanne can do the same with Ore.

Alisey, Edya and Natareg?
Are these new pieces in the IKEA store?

I think the issue is more that there are two likely scenarios for the semi-final vote - Alesha got a bottom 2 bounce and pulled through "fair and square", or Gethin continued to dominate the public vote and actually got eliminated despite winning it. The idea of the latter, understandably, irritated the hell out of Gethin fans at the time, and if it happened post Tom Chambers rather than before, I don't think it would have stood. Matt getting 40 for the waltz was a bit of agita, but Matt still would have been ahead of Gethin on the leaderboard even if it had "only" got 36.

Ore vs Daisy does seem the most likely Bottom 2, because it's the easiest route for them to get Daisy (who is irrelevant at this point having had her personal "victory" last week just like Anastacia and Laura both had theirs the weeks before they left) out and still keep the competition as a whole feeling open. Ore doesn't seem the type to get "blokerumba" pity votes but I think he can still win a dance-off over Daisy's latin.

The thing is, since the judges aren't too clear about what a decent AT involves (beyond lifts, flicky kicks and Gertcha)as long as Danny and Oti produce something resembling a SCD AT, they'll be fine. Doesn't have to be a good proper AT.
I'm only concerned that the sheer length and power of Oti's legs have the potential to do some serious damage to Danny's Happy Place if they get the timing wrong.

Ore and Joanne doing slow and sensual rumba?
Considering they managed to make a routine -involving a fireman getting his kit off, a stripper pole and music from the Full monty - unsexy, I can see them being in the danger zone.
The judges praised his lacklustre Salsa to the heavens and he still didn't get the votes.