Are we just left with the rhumba as the only dance not to score 40 in 'proper' competition not eggnog fuelled Christmas Specials?
This is Most Definitely Not An Appreciation Thread - Part 23
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Originally Posted by Toasted Toad:
“That is so very, very true. To me, it's the very essence of dance at its heart.
It's what I saw in Alesha's cha cha, the Kartem rumba, the Mumba
, Austinwuzrobbed's jive, Jay's Charleston, to name but a few, and now Danny's samba. I'm sure everyone else has their favourites too and their list might be completely different. I haven't danced in a long time, but they are the ones that remind me what a great experience it all is.
I have been thinking about AT too. Maybe I'm completely wrong, but in Strictly, we often hear about the AT being 'sharp' or 'spiky'. And that it should be smouldering and sexy. However, what I see mostly in the clips of professional AT dancers is that a lot of the AT overall is actually very smooth (and that's certainly what I've seen in 'free' (improv) AT). Yes, those kicks etc. should be clear, quick and defined, but the essence of the dance overall is soft (those distinctive walks, for example), or perhaps that's not quite the right adjective. And most of all, it needs a strong relationship between the partners - not necessarily sexy, but intense. Or perhaps there are just different types of AT - some gentler, some harsher, some a mix. Is that right? Or am I completely veering off track and talking complete and utter nonsense? Would be very interesting to hear how AT specialists would actually describe the nature of the dance.”
“That is so very, very true. To me, it's the very essence of dance at its heart.
It's what I saw in Alesha's cha cha, the Kartem rumba, the Mumba
, Austinwuzrobbed's jive, Jay's Charleston, to name but a few, and now Danny's samba. I'm sure everyone else has their favourites too and their list might be completely different. I haven't danced in a long time, but they are the ones that remind me what a great experience it all is.I have been thinking about AT too. Maybe I'm completely wrong, but in Strictly, we often hear about the AT being 'sharp' or 'spiky'. And that it should be smouldering and sexy. However, what I see mostly in the clips of professional AT dancers is that a lot of the AT overall is actually very smooth (and that's certainly what I've seen in 'free' (improv) AT). Yes, those kicks etc. should be clear, quick and defined, but the essence of the dance overall is soft (those distinctive walks, for example), or perhaps that's not quite the right adjective. And most of all, it needs a strong relationship between the partners - not necessarily sexy, but intense. Or perhaps there are just different types of AT - some gentler, some harsher, some a mix. Is that right? Or am I completely veering off track and talking complete and utter nonsense? Would be very interesting to hear how AT specialists would actually describe the nature of the dance.”
You are instinctively right
There is no sharp or spiky. That's come from sodding SCD. There is no kick or flick movement. When you do a gancho your feet actually slides through the floor and the 'kick' it simply the point at which it leaves the floor for and rises naturally, but it is a soft movement.They are the consequence of a rotational movement and momentum comes from the hip. They can be either keg, forwards or backwards.
There is no much utter rot talked about AT on SCD it' not surprising everyone gets confused and some go off into the hinterland with their suppositions.
AT is a continuous movement dance which alters according to the music. because we create each movement and series of steps and adornos (foot decoration) to follow the music. As a result there are no sequences - just a choice of what move to use and what to link it to.
Look at the accents used by these two - they dance to every beat - and are world famous for their musicality (and her for her sensuality) Watch how she 'accents' the music with her footwork. Yes, it can be fast, but is it sharp - no. It's precise.
Hope that makes sense?
Originally Posted by aggs:
“There's a Willy Wonka foxtrot to ... look forward? to ...”
“There's a Willy Wonka foxtrot to ... look forward? to ...”
Louise Rainbow's Clifton bias does not extend to Joanne....
Bloody hell, I'm tearing up. I genuinely think he gave everything his all and didn't want to go home.
Aw Katya 
I know he wasn't everyone's cup of tea but I'll miss Ed on the show, one of the few Komedy Kontestants that I've enjoyed & a lot of that is down to Katya too. Ringer for her next year!
I know he wasn't everyone's cup of tea but I'll miss Ed on the show, one of the few Komedy Kontestants that I've enjoyed & a lot of that is down to Katya too. Ringer for her next year!
Poor Katya and Oksana both so upset for their celebs
Sad to see you go Ed in many ways but it was your time.
Sad to see you go Ed in many ways but it was your time.
Ed wasn't the best dancer, but he brought an immense amount of fun to the programme this year. Plus the joy he found dance was infectious.
, but he brought an immense amount of fun to the programme this year. Plus the joy he found dance was infectious.
I know I probably shouldn't really say this but I'd have let Judge go home over Ed. Ed has clearly had a journey and can give more but I feel like Judge has stagnated. Judge isn't going to win, so why keep him around for another week? If they'd kept Ed, he'd have had at least one fantastic dance left in him.
I thought Ed danced better than Rinder both times, and Ed improved. Rinder looked as id he'd had his strings cut.
And poor Oksana, why had WarDrobe made her look as if she was dancing in big knickers with a negligee flung over the top?
And poor Oksana, why had WarDrobe made her look as if she was dancing in big knickers with a negligee flung over the top?
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“You are instinctively right There is no sharp or spiky. That's come from sodding SCD. There is no kick or flick movement. When you do a gancho your feet actually slides through the floor and the 'kick' it simply the point at which it leaves the floor for and rises naturally, but it is a soft movement.
They are the consequence of a rotational movement and momentum comes from the hip. They can be either keg, forwards or backwards.
There is no much utter rot talked about AT on SCD it' not surprising everyone gets confused and some go off into the hinterland with their suppositions.
AT is a continuous movement dance which alters according to the music. because we create each movement and series of steps and adornos (foot decoration) to follow the music. As a result there are no sequences - just a choice of what move to use and what to link it to.
Look at the accents used by these two - they dance to every beat - and are world famous for their musicality (and her for her sensuality) Watch how she 'accents' the music with her footwork. Yes, it can be fast, but is it sharp - no. It's precise.
Hope that makes sense?”
“You are instinctively right
There is no sharp or spiky. That's come from sodding SCD. There is no kick or flick movement. When you do a gancho your feet actually slides through the floor and the 'kick' it simply the point at which it leaves the floor for and rises naturally, but it is a soft movement.They are the consequence of a rotational movement and momentum comes from the hip. They can be either keg, forwards or backwards.
There is no much utter rot talked about AT on SCD it' not surprising everyone gets confused and some go off into the hinterland with their suppositions.
AT is a continuous movement dance which alters according to the music. because we create each movement and series of steps and adornos (foot decoration) to follow the music. As a result there are no sequences - just a choice of what move to use and what to link it to.
Look at the accents used by these two - they dance to every beat - and are world famous for their musicality (and her for her sensuality) Watch how she 'accents' the music with her footwork. Yes, it can be fast, but is it sharp - no. It's precise.
Hope that makes sense?”
Thank you - yes, that makes sense to me. I love finding out more about what I should be looking for. Love the pizzicato bit in that clip! Is that routine choreographed? It looks to me as though it's improv, but I could easily be mistaken.
Originally Posted by Muggsy:
“Ed wasn't the best dancer, but he brought an immense amount of fun to the programme this year. Plus the joy he found dance was infectious.”
“Ed wasn't the best dancer
, but he brought an immense amount of fun to the programme this year. Plus the joy he found dance was infectious.”
I agree, after Judge goes next week it is all going to be a bit dull isn't it? Unless, Louise suddenly shows her true colours and becomes a manic dancing machine desperate to win, or just goes home quietly for a nice digestive biscuit and cocoa
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Kevin had a wut? Face as well.
Flitting behind his eyes was 4 finals potentially and all I have to show for it are a trio of shared second places and a twitch.”
“Kevin had a wut? Face as well.
Flitting behind his eyes was 4 finals potentially and all I have to show for it are a trio of shared second places and a twitch.”
One of the reasons I'm quite enjoying Kevin and Louise's partnership is that I get the impression they're often cordially baffled by one another. Kevin's face in this week's training VT was a picture - he went to all the trouble of getting her husband in only to discover that their approach to romance is laughter, mild awkwardness and asking what exactly he's expecting them to do. Kevin's spent weeks trying to "bring her out of her shell" and "improve her confidence" and make her see she can be competitive too! Meanwhile Louise is quite happy learning some nice dances and performing on a Saturday night and can't understand why Kevin's doing his best impression of an American life coach. We're British - less affirmations of confidence please!
Originally Posted by allgrownup:
“Tess: What can Ed do to improve on Saturday's performance
Judges: B*tch please, he's f*cked”
“Tess: What can Ed do to improve on Saturday's performance
Judges: B*tch please, he's f*cked”
What can Ed do to improve in the dance off? Magically lose age and weight and gain the ability to dance. I've enjoyed Ed well enough but he isn't a good dancer.
Originally Posted by mimi dlc:
“Louise Rainbow's Clifton bias does not extend to Joanne....”
“Louise Rainbow's Clifton bias does not extend to Joanne....”
I wonder how many pick 'n' mix Ore will be able to get down his trews this time
Originally Posted by sueh21:
“I agree, after Judge goes next week it is all going to be a bit dull isn't it? Unless, Louise suddenly shows her true colours and becomes a manic dancing machine desperate to win, or just goes home quietly for a nice digestive biscuit and cocoa”
“I agree, after Judge goes next week it is all going to be a bit dull isn't it? Unless, Louise suddenly shows her true colours and becomes a manic dancing machine desperate to win, or just goes home quietly for a nice digestive biscuit and cocoa
”
But what if the Judge doesn't go home next week? What if he gets the bounce and it's a Ore and Cloudier dance off??
Incidentally has anyone managed to interpret Bruno's
Pretentiotwaddle
Why was Ore and Jwanne having safe sex divided by a billiard table
" capturing the zeitgeist " ?
Anyone?
Pretentiotwaddle
Why was Ore and Jwanne having safe sex divided by a billiard table
" capturing the zeitgeist " ?
Anyone?
Originally Posted by Wiskas2:
“But what if the Judge doesn't go home next week? What if he gets the bounce and it's a Ore and Cloudier dance off??”
“But what if the Judge doesn't go home next week? What if he gets the bounce and it's a Ore and Cloudier dance off??”
I'd be happy to lose Ore. I didn't like children's TV presenters even when I was a child (though John Craven used to pay us the compliment of adult gravitas). Playaway
Originally Posted by tortoiseperson:
“I'd be happy to lose Ore. I didn't like children's TV presenters even when I was a child (though John Craven used to pay us the compliment of adult gravitas). Playaway”
“I'd be happy to lose Ore. I didn't like children's TV presenters even when I was a child (though John Craven used to pay us the compliment of adult gravitas). Playaway
”
I'm the opposite, would happily see Claudia go home out of her and Ore. She has yet to do a "wow" dance for me, when Ore has at least a couple under his belt. And I am unashamed in my love of his Paso this week, and the music choice.
Originally Posted by Wiskas2:
“But what if the Judge doesn't go home next week? What if he gets the bounce and it's a Ore and Cloudier dance off??”
“But what if the Judge doesn't go home next week? What if he gets the bounce and it's a Ore and Cloudier dance off??”
I actually love all 3 of those, but it would create an interesting dynamic if Judge Rinder got to the final. The ideal situation for me would be for Louise to go and any three of the other four to be in the final, but I really can't see that happening... sadly I think only meeting Danny in the DO can stop Louise making the final, and even then I wouldn't trust the judges to do the decent thing.
Originally Posted by Wiskas2:
“But what if the Judge doesn't go home next week? What if he gets the bounce and it's a Ore and Cloudier dance off??”
“But what if the Judge doesn't go home next week? What if he gets the bounce and it's a Ore and Cloudier dance off??”
Would love to see the judges self combust with an Ore/Louizzzze dance off.
Has anyone seen the show live? I'm curious because Louise may be coming across better in the studio than she does down the camera - some folk are like that.
I'm trying to be fair here. In a former life I taught drama and there are people who are amazing performers live, but really don't transmit through a lens.
Danny, Ore and in the right dance, Cloudier, all have it, but Louise seems not to. Rindy has had whatever that magic thingy is, but lost it a bit this week - maybe because he was doing a very technical dance.
I'm trying to be fair here. In a former life I taught drama and there are people who are amazing performers live, but really don't transmit through a lens.
Danny, Ore and in the right dance, Cloudier, all have it, but Louise seems not to. Rindy has had whatever that magic thingy is, but lost it a bit this week - maybe because he was doing a very technical dance.
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