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Old 17-12-2016, 22:42
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Wish we cared enough to worry whether you do or not
is EVERYONE here obsessed with me?

its not the 'lets unappreciate primer' thread you know!
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:46
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*Whispers*

Not if you look at his wiki page... they're sticking to the fact he came second and NOBODY WILL SAY OTHERWISE!
He did come second - JOINT SECOND!
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:51
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He did come second - JOINT SECOND!
I want to unappreciate this actually. (Again. Some more.) Would it kill the BBC to tell us who came second and third in the final? We know all the other positions, we know who came *last* so I don't see how it would be embarrassing for the celebrities involved.

Also you just know that at some point this Christmas Kevin and Jo are going to get into a classic sibling row with Kevin insisting that he and Louise came second, dammit, it was definitely second and Jo needling back that it was probably third because obviously she and Ore were first and Danny was such a good dancer, there's no shame in being beaten into third place, Kevin, not with such stiff competition this year...
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Old 17-12-2016, 23:01
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i wish i cared enough to reciprocate...
Doesn't this post prove that you do? The fact that you couldn't come up with a witty retort has nothing to do with it.
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Old 17-12-2016, 23:09
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Fairly sure he came 3rd.... (for probably the 4th year running)
Judging from the order that they are interviewed, I think 3rd this year - but I think maybe 2nd last year? A good, crowd-pleasing set of dances works wonders on the night, propelling Kellie's lindyhop over Georgia's blindfolded malarkey, but Danny beat Louise. I think.

Don't remember the previous years...
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Old 17-12-2016, 23:28
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I'd like to appreciate the speed with which Hair and make-up managed to completely change the look of the female finalists for each dance.

Unlike when Lisa Snowdon did her famous bacofoil Showdance in a contemporary leotard with hair and make-up looking like Celia Johnson in Brief Encounter
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Old 17-12-2016, 23:32
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I want a West End show featuring Natalie and Danny opposite each other. I can see why you're all saying Jay and Danny but I feel like Natalie and Danny would suit each other so well...



Daisy seems lovely. And I very much appreciated her "Yep, I'm still dancing and I'm going to keep doing it," especially after Louise's "When else could anyone possibly learn an Argentine Tango or a waltz? Strictly is the only place you could ever do that!" (They're called "dance classes," Louise. You remember, like the ones you took when you were a child? Adults can go to them too, even without a film crew around!)



I have thought a few times that Danny could have been given routines choreographed for Louise and Ore and learnt them easily in a week. I'm not convinced that the same is true the other way around. Louise's technique in some dances has been better than Danny's but she's normally had more time to breathe and consider the technique as she dances. I think if you tried to give Louise routines that had been choreographed for Danny, she'd panic.



I was disappointed by that. I'd been hoping they'd pick her Viennese Waltz if they were going to choose an early dance for her. Her grace in ballroom is one of her best qualities IMO - there's a clean simplicity to the way she dances that type of ballroom that I appreciate, even when she's not bringing much in the way of excitement to the routine.
Yes, Danny and Natalie. Jay's a very different kind of dancer and performer.

Remember Louise was the first to talk about winning. Eye on the prize, not the dancing... Daisy is a sweetie.

There's no way the others could have done his dances, he could have done theirs easily. Same with Jay last year - a level of musicality and ease of movement beyond the others, however good they were.

Ditto on the VW, for the same reasons. Other than the fringed monstrosity (and, I'll admit, the song) I think she did a good job with the emotion of that. However, where Ore and Danny got dances that were highly praised at the time (which made for a better final), she should have had familiar.

I want to unappreciate this actually. (Again. Some more.) Would it kill the BBC to tell us who came second and third in the final? We know all the other positions, we know who came *last* so I don't see how it would be embarrassing for the celebrities involved.

Also you just know that at some point this Christmas Kevin and Jo are going to get into a classic sibling row with Kevin insisting that he and Louise came second, dammit, it was definitely second and Jo needling back that it was probably third because obviously she and Ore were first and Danny was such a good dancer, there's no shame in being beaten into third place, Kevin, not with such stiff competition this year...
Oh, don't. I like this mental image!

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Old 17-12-2016, 23:40
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What I find odd is that this thread, as last year is scattered with blacked out posts, just like after last years final. I only mention it because it must kill some posters to have to wait till the final to post to gloat that somebody won or lost.

A whole year before they feel they have something interesting to say and a possibility that someone may respond to them.

Shame because I think they would know by now most regular DOTs have discovered the ignore button long ago and yet again they are talking to themselves.

I have to wander what's in it for them as they run in here get ignored and run out.

Anyway to all Dots and lurkers everywhere how lovely to have spent this season with you.

I really enjoyed this year and got behind some people I really didn't think I would.

It's been a year of suprises where quite frankly I wouldn't have minded Ed or JR winning, or Claudia or Greg really , maybe Daisy who seemed really sweet.
Not Tameka who I just never found funny, nor Melvin who was bad and had no idea.

The rest were just also rans for me.

Danni turned out suprisingly sweet and I am sure Gene Kelly's wife must have been amazed at the resemblance to his dancing. He will always be a WUZZROBBED who are forever remembered fondly.

I will probably watch a few of his dances on you tube and I can see him featuring heavily on favourite dances of all time, AS, Charleston, samba, QS gosh that's a lot for a non winner to come away with.

As for the Clifton couples, none of their dances feature in my lists so there's that.
I have never care for either Cliftons choreography and I just hope after a season where the new pros outshone many of the established pros the BBC realise just how emperors new clothes the Cliftins, including Karen, Janette, Brendan, Anton really are, also Pasha, as sweet as you are you don't know how to teach a not so good dancer. In that vein Aliaz too I saw a lot of choreography repeated.

Come to thing of it lets have a whole sale pro cull.

Anyway thanks Dots for keeping me company when I could be here and making me smile.

Will pop in for the next week or so to see if any things happening but to all who are going to leave now bye and see you next year xxxx
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Old 17-12-2016, 23:45
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I'd like to appreciate the speed with which Hair and make-up managed to completely change the look of the female finalists for each dance.

Unlike when Lisa Snowdon did her famous bacofoil Showdance in a contemporary leotard with hair and make-up looking like Celia Johnson in Brief Encounter
agreed, the 3 looks louise got were particularly well executed, from the fantastic head of curls to the AT slicked back siren look via a sllightly 'undone' contemporary inbetween
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Old 17-12-2016, 23:52
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What I find odd is that this thread, as last year is scattered with blacked out posts, just like after last years final. I only mention it because it must kill some posters to have to wait till the final to post to gloat that somebody won or lost.

A whole year before they feel they have something interesting to say and a possibility that someone may respond to them.

Shame because I think they would know by now most regular DOTs have discovered the ignore button long ago and yet again they are talking to themselves.

I have to wander what's in it for them as they run in here get ignored and run out.

Anyway to all Dots and lurkers everywhere how lovely to have spent this season with you.

I really enjoyed this year and got behind some people I really didn't think I would.

It's been a year of suprises where quite frankly I wouldn't have minded Ed or JR winning, or Claudia or Greg really , maybe Daisy who seemed really sweet.
Not Tameka who I just never found funny, nor Melvin who was bad and had no idea.

The rest were just also rans for me.

Danni turned out suprisingly sweet and I am sure Gene Kelly's wife must have been amazed at the resemblance to his dancing. He will always be a WUZZROBBED who are forever remembered fondly.

I will probably watch a few of his dances on you tube and I can see him featuring heavily on favourite dances of all time, AS, Charleston, samba, QS gosh that's a lot for a non winner to come away with.

As for the Clifton couples, none of their dances feature in my lists so there's that.
I have never care for either Cliftons choreography and I just hope after a season where the new pros outshone many of the established pros the BBC realise just how emperors new clothes the Cliftins, including Karen, Janette, Brendan, Anton really are, also Pasha, as sweet as you are you don't know how to teach a not so good dancer. In that vein Aliaz too I saw a lot of choreography repeated.

Come to thing of it lets have a whole sale pro cull.

Anyway thanks Dots for keeping me company when I could be here and making me smile.

Will pop in for the next week or so to see if any things happening but to all who are going to leave now bye and see you next year xxxx
talk about protesting too much, you devote a quarter of your post to things you affect to know nothing about and care even less...

see you next year
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Old 17-12-2016, 23:53
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Doesn't this post prove that you do? The fact that you couldn't come up with a witty retort has nothing to do with it.
do you have a comment on anything except me?
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Old 17-12-2016, 23:54
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What I find odd is that this thread, as last year is scattered with blacked out posts, just like after last years final. I only mention it because it must kill some posters to have to wait till the final to post to gloat that somebody won or lost.

A whole year before they feel they have something interesting to say and a possibility that someone may respond to them.

Shame because I think they would know by now most regular DOTs have discovered the ignore button long ago and yet again they are talking to themselves.

I have to wander what's in it for them as they run in here get ignored and run out.

Anyway to all Dots and lurkers everywhere how lovely to have spent this season with you.

I really enjoyed this year and got behind some people I really didn't think I would.

It's been a year of suprises where quite frankly I wouldn't have minded Ed or JR winning, or Claudia or Greg really , maybe Daisy who seemed really sweet.
Not Tameka who I just never found funny, nor Melvin who was bad and had no idea.

The rest were just also rans for me.

Danni turned out suprisingly sweet and I am sure Gene Kelly's wife must have been amazed at the resemblance to his dancing. He will always be a WUZZROBBED who are forever remembered fondly.

I will probably watch a few of his dances on you tube and I can see him featuring heavily on favourite dances of all time, AS, Charleston, samba, QS gosh that's a lot for a non winner to come away with.

As for the Clifton couples, none of their dances feature in my lists so there's that.
I have never care for either Cliftons choreography and I just hope after a season where the new pros outshone many of the established pros the BBC realise just how emperors new clothes the Cliftins, including Karen, Janette, Brendan, Anton really are, also Pasha, as sweet as you are you don't know how to teach a not so good dancer. In that vein Aliaz too I saw a lot of choreography repeated.

Come to thing of it lets have a whole sale pro cull.

Anyway thanks Dots for keeping me company when I could be here and making me smile.

Will pop in for the next week or so to see if any things happening but to all who are going to leave now bye and see you next year xxxx
Re Pasha - I think he wants to get the best out of his partners. In less able dancers, that makes for a slightly dull if well-intentioned dance (unless for monstrosities like Carol's "I Think I Love You" Hallowe'en rumba). He's never got the "ah, fcek it, let's go for comedy" memo - which I appreciate. He respects his partners, and I'll bet even those with two left feet will come away knowing a few steps. I'm not sure we could say the same for some of the duffers that last due to comedy routines, like Jeremy Vine.

In fairness, I think Katya got Ed far, with comedy, and taught him some steps, so it's not impossible, but I don't know that comedy routines are something Pasha's comfortable with.

But then I'm one who thought Pasha and Naga got on well, so may be seeing something different to others...
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Old 17-12-2016, 23:55
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is EVERYONE here obsessed with me?

its not the 'lets unappreciate primer' thread you know!
Dream on primer.

We can unapppreciate quite well with or without you. You are welcome to the thread, it has been going for many years and we all meet up when the series starts in September or specials. Our only rule is unnapreciate with wit rather than malice
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Old 17-12-2016, 23:57
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cant believe that I got company five mins before the results

I was spitting feathers
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Old 18-12-2016, 00:01
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cant believe that I got company five mins before the results

I was spitting feathers
In hindsight I unappreciate not receiving company five minutes before the results!
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Old 18-12-2016, 00:04
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Re Pasha - I think he wants to get the best out of his partners. In less able dancers, that makes for a slightly dull if well-intentioned dance (unless for monstrosities like Carol's "I Think I Love You" Hallowe'en rumba). He's never got the "ah, fcek it, let's go for comedy" memo - which I appreciate. He respects his partners, and I'll bet even those with two left feet will come away knowing a few steps. I'm not sure we could say the same for some of the duffers that last due to comedy routines, like Jeremy Vine.

In fairness, I think Katya got Ed far, with comedy, and taught him some steps, so it's not impossible, but I don't know that comedy routines are something Pasha's comfortable with.

But then I'm one who thought Pasha and Naga got on well, so may be seeing something different to others...
I thought Naga and Pasha got on well too both driven and perfectionists, it's just sad that she didn't have a chance to show she was actually learning to dance and enjoy it, I think she could have had a real journey.

Strictly is a winning formular for the BBC so I can't see them changing it much but I personally would wish the blantent pushing for what they want would back off quite a lot. This final hasn't left the feeling of sour grapes that last years did, I hope they don't think it gives them a mandate to overproduce manufactured storylines.
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Old 18-12-2016, 00:31
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I thought Naga and Pasha got on well too both driven and perfectionists, it's just sad that she didn't have a chance to show she was actually learning to dance and enjoy it, I think she could have had a real journey.

Strictly is a winning formular for the BBC so I can't see them changing it much but I personally would wish the blantent pushing for what they want would back off quite a lot. This final hasn't left the feeling of sour grapes that last years did, I hope they don't think it gives them a mandate to overproduce manufactured storylines.
I'm not sure if I'm growing more cynical or the producers are becoming more manipulative but, for me, the show is becoming more and more controlled week on week, year on year. And the issue is once the producers have the taste of power they are very unwilling to let go of it.
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Old 18-12-2016, 04:37
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I'm not sure if I'm growing more cynical or the producers are becoming more manipulative but, for me, the show is becoming more and more controlled week on week, year on year. And the issue is once the producers have the taste of power they are very unwilling to let go of it.
Well, at least TPTB appear to have listened in one respect, which is to make the judges' choices some of the best dances rather than some of the worst, thus making the final a more up-beat affair.

If I were a Louise fan, I would have been furious at the way she was sabotaged, though, with judge's choice.

That's one of the reasons I think it perfectly fair for viewers to choose to base their vote on the series of the whole rather than just the final night - one or more couples can be affected by poor dance choice (Jay and Georgia last year other notable examples)

"One night only" viewers will also be far more subject to judges' pimping efforts, as they will not have seen the judges adopt their favourites several weeks, or even months, back.

And finally, this is a competition that has gone on for 3 months, not one night. The final is culmination and celebration (the latter aspect missing last year) of their achievements. However, people might want to vote for the person who has given them the most pleasure over 3 months, for whatever reason, not just on one night.

This year, although Danny was the best dancer, he did not do himself justice in the final, but, unlike Jay last year, he evidently did not have enough goodwill accumulated from the previous 3 months to make up for it. At least he finished on a high - that samba. Wow!
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Old 18-12-2016, 05:17
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With Katya or Ori please 🙏
Cav's not tall. And very slight. He'd need a petite partner otherwise it'd be Claudia and AJ in reverse. Eep.

Would love to see it. Cav makes me laugh, even when he's throwing his toys. Proper heart-on-sleeve type. And there would be tears, guaranteed.
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Old 18-12-2016, 06:10
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is EVERYONE here obsessed with me?

its not the 'lets unappreciate primer' thread you know!
I'm not!
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Old 18-12-2016, 06:37
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Aah well
I un-appreciate the winner.

I also un-appreciated Claudia wheeling people out in the Terms and Conditions sections because I don't think it is amusing.
And I un-appreciated certain posters telling me that these bits were funny. I put them both on ignore. I don't mind reading opinions different to mine, but I don't like being told my opinion is wrong.

I also un-appreciate the poster coming in here picking fights with anyone who responded.

But overall, I have enjoyed this series.

The biggest surprise was Danny.
As I said back in September, I expected him to be like Mark Wright and I expected to hate him for it. Instead he turned out be be a nice bloke, not arrogant or swaggering and I enjoyed every single dance he performed. He made mistakes - which only made him seem more likeable.

I thank Louise and her calm niceness because she seemed to keep Kevin down a bit. Especially in the Clauditorium. No squealng and jumping about during the scores much. Well, certainly less than last year with Kellie Bright.
So I thank her for that.

I'd really like to know the troof abaht Will Young's surprise exit though. Nosey ain't I?

Now I await the appointment of Len's replacement with eager anticipation.

Also curious to know if Brendan and Anton will be put out to pasture.
Maybe Anton will be given a Bruce type role and Brendan could be a good Judge.

And on a final note - I do hope Tess gets a Bra that stops one boob being lower than the other.

Bye DOTS, thanks for the laughs.

Merry DOTmas and see you in 2017 when bits of Strictly news hit the headlines and for the launch of the next show.

xxx
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Old 18-12-2016, 07:20
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This thread is not a place to laugh at other FMs or to criticise other threads on the forum. Apart from not being what this thread is about, we have been suspended before for that. Nothing to do with the fact that thd Cliftons are all three annoying little twits
As if this thread would have been full of unappreciation if Danny had won!
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Old 18-12-2016, 07:53
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I'm unappreciating the fact that even if you have a poster on ignore, when other people quote them, you can see the posts you've been trying to avoid.
Me too. I invoked that particular ignore button weeks ago and the forum is a better place for it.

I used to really like Ore as a sports presenter on BBC Breakfast but I went off him during the Olympics in Rio as he just wasn't as up-to-speed as the other presenters. He's always come across as a nice bloke though.
Didn't know of him before, not sure if he's nice but if so he is the personification of Nice But Dim.

Oh thanks. Well I've been posting on here for about 5 years (under a different account originally) but I'm glad you get to decide who is "we" and who isn't. I quite enjoy posting on here but if I am not part of the thread and you want me to stop, I will.
Don't you dare!!! If you go anywhere we will come after you and drag you back, and we won't care if you're in your fleecy jimjams and tartan slippers with pompoms.

That's iit for another year then, DOTs. If you're going off now, Merry Christmas and see you next year. If you're hanging around for Sof's Sunday post-dancing appearance, see you later.
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Old 18-12-2016, 08:04
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Kevin came second. Kevin always comes second. Kevin will always come second forever more until he becomes the Ghost of Second Placers past, haunting the studio and whispering "It should have been me! Why did they always wait to the very end to stop voting for me? It isn't fair..."
Maybe next year, in his inevitable 5th showdance, he should just realise that he'll place as runner up again & dance to "It should've been me"
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Old 18-12-2016, 09:21
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As if this thread would have been full of unappreciation if Danny had won!

Oh no doubt we would have found something.
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