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Adele and Justin Bieber music over rated?
linkinpark875
01-12-2015
I don't get the hype on these two artists. For me neither has any musical talent yet they seem to be popular.

Anybody else agree?
ShotDownInFlame
01-12-2015
Adele has undeniable talent. I'm normally into rock and metal but her voice is distinct from most others in that when you hear it come up on the radio, you know it's her. And her range is quite impressive for most "pop" singers.

As for Bieber, he has some talent if you've ever seen him play the drums or guitar, but in terms of song writing and singing, he's just hiding behind a team of writers and autotune to make up for not having the talent to make smash hits himself, but to be fair to him, a lot of pop artists use other songwriters and autotune nowadays, not saying it's a good thing, but it doesn't apply to Bieber alone for sure.
Master Ozzy
01-12-2015
Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“I don't get the hype on these two artists. For me neither has any musical talent yet they seem to be popular.

Anybody else agree?”

How on earth can you say that neither of them have any musical talent? Both of them can sing, both are involved in writing their music. You may not like them and they may not be your cup of tea, but saying they both have no musical talent is ridiculous.
Anika Hanson
01-12-2015
Yes Adele is over-hyped to some degree but why is she being mentioned in the same breath as Justin Bieber. Adele has talent, she writes good songs and can sing reasonably well. Justin is only where he is because of all the little girls that fancy him.
Ænima
01-12-2015
Originally Posted by ShotDownInFlame:
“Adele has undeniable talent. I'm normally into rock and metal but her voice is distinct from most others in that when you hear it come up on the radio, you know it's her. And her range is quite impressive for most "pop" singers.

As for Bieber, he has some talent if you've ever seen him play the drums or guitar, but in terms of song writing and singing, he's just hiding behind a team of writers and autotune to make up for not having the talent to make smash hits himself, but to be fair to him, a lot of pop artists use other songwriters and autotune nowadays, not saying it's a good thing, but it doesn't apply to Bieber alone for sure.”

We've just disowned you after this post

Joke.
Dandem
01-12-2015
I'll be honest, it's a bit of a pet hate of mine when someone describes a successful artist as having "no talent". You don't need to like someone's music to recognise what they bring to the industry, otherwise it wouldn't be a subjective medium.

It's especially ridiculous to say it in the case of Adele, and that's coming from someone who literally only likes 1 Adele song. And whilst I can't stand Bieber, I wouldn't mind trading vocal chords with him personally.
ShotDownInFlame
01-12-2015
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“We've just disowned you after this post

Joke.”

I knew I should have created a new account to post that
Hitstastic
01-12-2015
It seems as if everything that becomes popular ultimately becomes over rated.

Uptown Funk! = overrated
One Direction (in general) = overrated
Sam Smith (in general) = overrated

Adele and Justin Bieber have proved to be incredibly popular. You can also thank the media for this as they've equally helped by pushing these artists in the news, so it's increased exposure for something that's already proved popular. More exposure = more success.

So yes, if that's the case then they are "over rated" because everything in the music industry that becomes popular seems to be considered "over rated".

Imo, they're popular. Just popular.
cnbcwatcher
01-12-2015
Adele is talented but vastly overrated. I don't get the hype at all. I know music is subjective but I personally find Adele's music, or what I've heard of it, to be rather 'safe' and MOR. Don't really pay much attention to Beaver so I can't comment there.
Hollie_Louise
01-12-2015
I think if anything Bieber is underrated and I'm not his biggest fan. He is a dick, a major dick, but his music is maturing, his voice is getting better as he gets older. To some, he'll always be that teen pop kid and will be written off unfairly by those people. He's not untalented at all, he can sing. I tend to sympathise with him, he obviously wasn't ready to be the global phenomenon he was at that young age, the abuse he got was awful so it doesn't surprise me he isn't the best mentally balanced person in the world. It was plain to see that he was having some sort of breakdown and his team should have just cancelled his tour and got his head straight.

I really have come to like him over his last two releases, I still wouldn't choose to buy an album of his but he's growing and I think he's worth giving a shot too.
hazydayz
01-12-2015
Originally Posted by Hitstastic:
“It seems as if everything that becomes popular ultimately becomes over rated.

Uptown Funk! = overrated
One Direction (in general) = overrated
Sam Smith (in general) = overrated

Adele and Justin Bieber have proved to be incredibly popular. You can also thank the media for this as they've equally helped by pushing these artists in the news, so it's increased exposure for something that's already proved popular. More exposure = more success.

So yes, if that's the case then they are "over rated" because everything in the music industry that becomes popular seems to be considered "over rated".

Imo, they're popular. Just popular.”


I think the real reason behind you thinking this is that it's not that these songs or people are bad, it's just that coming across a song which is genuinely good and universally liked is so hard to come by that when it does come along it can seem a little overplayed and the same goes with artists. No one can just be good. We need to know everything about them, we need constant interviews, constant magazine covers and TV appearances and then when you've rinsed them of everything they have you move on to the next person.

Then there is the fact that we as adults should be doing more in our own lives. We are only here once, do you really want to spend what little time we have here on someone elses life? Do you think Justin Bieber or Adele give a damn about you? Course they don't so why do you as people care about them or want them to do well? You live with the cards you are dealt in life, simple as that. Don't waste your life worrying about other people, worry about your own life and what you're doing.
konebyvax
02-12-2015
I'm getting worried; Hazy's starting to make sense/grow on me

Seems like 'overrated' is the new 'I don't like' these days. A bit silly imo.
mgvsmith
02-12-2015
Originally Posted by Hitstastic:
“It seems as if everything that becomes popular ultimately becomes over rated.

Uptown Funk! = overrated
One Direction (in general) = overrated
Sam Smith (in general) = overrated

Adele and Justin Bieber have proved to be incredibly popular. You can also thank the media for this as they've equally helped by pushing these artists in the news, so it's increased exposure for something that's already proved popular. More exposure = more success.

So yes, if that's the case then they are "over rated" because everything in the music industry that becomes popular seems to be considered "over rated".

Imo, they're popular. Just popular.”

I think the overrated thing is reserved for pop artists. I don't hear Iron Maiden, AC/DC or Zeppelin being described in that way very often. It probably says more about the audience for this music.

Bieber is an Internet star who has sustained his success and seems to have changed a little along the way. Adele is the product of a talent school, has a girl next door with baggage image and connects with a mass audience perhaps because of her seeming ordinariness.

I'm not sure either how overrated applies. Overrated by whom?
laurence1870
02-12-2015
The modern music audience will take whatever is thrown at them. Endless marketing and hype says 'this is fantastic' and the public instantly believes it. That is why Adele's Hello, with it's four repeated piano chords and droning about an ex boyfriend, has become one of the biggest selling UK singles ever.

It's a shame because there are still some great bands and artists out there that remain unsigned because the record labels aren't willing to give them a chance - all they want are the Adeles and Sam Smiths who they can market the hell out of make quick millions.

As for Bieber, any talent he has as a musician (and there is some) is clouded by his dumbass behaviour - walking off stages, getting into scraps with paparazzi and so on.

Manufactured pop has always been around, but now it rules the music business. Finally, amid falling ratings and declining popularity, it seems like the X Factor will be off our screens soon. However, the damage its done is irreversible. The state of pop music remains arguable: from a sales point of view it is more alive than ever, but for true music fans it is effectively dead.
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