[chris_elevate]

Is it possible to get a good HD picture on a TV where there's only a mains socket and no aerial/satellite near the TV?

I'm wanting to install a TV in my kitchen and can't run a cable to it but there's power where it's going. Also I want a set top box under my stairs to control it as I want to output the sound from the box into speakers in the ceiling as LED TV's have such poor sound quality.

Perhaps a way to do it is using ethernet over the power?

Any suggestions or anyone successfully doing this?

Thanks

[skinj]

Something like this should work but your other issue is the control of the digibox in the cupboard. You'll need some sort of ir extender to operate it without opening the cupboard every time.

http://www.aerialsat.com/prod/hdjuic...FRW3GwodrcUP7w

[oilman]

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Originally Posted by chris_elevate

Is it possible to get a good HD picture on a TV where there's only a mains socket and no aerial/satellite near the TV?

I'm wanting to install a TV in my kitchen and can't run a cable to it but there's power where it's going. Also I want a set top box under my stairs to control it as I want to output the sound from the box into speakers in the ceiling as LED TV's have such poor sound quality.

Perhaps a way to do it is using ethernet over the power?

Any suggestions or anyone successfully doing this?

Thanks

Not cheap but a slingbox and a chromecast will do the trick, assuming set top box has component output. You could also output the sound from the slingbox to a chromecast audio to your speakers.

[Winston_1]

Ethernet over power line including the Juicebox is bad technology that will cause interference to other users of the RF spectrum. Don't use it. This is because mains wiring is not designed to carry data as is not screened, balanced, or terminated.

A good solution would be a video sender between the kitchen TV and set top box under the stairs. Don't forget the set top box under the stairs will require an aerial or dish feed depending on type.

[anthony david]

Why can't you run a cable, would a local tradesman be able to do it?

[David (2)]

No expert on this, but would the new sky Q with a primary and secondary box (it does HD streaming over wifi apparently) do the job.

[chris_elevate]

Thanks for the suggestions so far guys. Running a cable to that tv internal through the house won't work as everything is tiled and it wouldn't be possible.

One option is to run an aerial feed from my loft out of the gable end of the house, down the outside and the punch in at a point near the tv. The only problem with this is that I want the following features:

1. Id like the tv sound through the kitchen ceiling speakers (already fitted). They are driven by an amp under the stairs so how would I get the audio feed back to the stairs.
2. There a coax cable running under the stairs to the bathroom where there's a low volt tv on the wall. Again, I would want the sound in the bathroom ceiling speakers which are linked into the amp under the stairs.
3. It would be good to pause and rewind the TVs.
4. The cupboard under the stairs has 1 pair of sky dish feeds free and also a digital aerial feed available.
5. Whilst I don't want incredible sound I find sound from an LCD screen to difficult to listen to when watching tv.

I hope this update is able to spark some ideas as I can't think of the best solution at the moment.

Thanks

[Winston_1]

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Originally Posted by chris_elevate

Thanks for the suggestions so far guys. Running a cable to that tv internal through the house won't work as everything is tiled and it wouldn't be possible.

One option is to run an aerial feed from my loft out of the gable end of the house, down the outside and the punch in at a point near the tv. The only problem with this is that I want the following features:

1. Id like the tv sound through the kitchen ceiling speakers (already fitted). They are driven by an amp under the stairs so how would I get the audio feed back to the stairs.
2. There a coax cable running under the stairs to the bathroom where there's a low volt tv on the wall. Again, I would want the sound in the bathroom ceiling speakers which are linked into the amp under the stairs.
3. It would be good to pause and rewind the TVs.
4. The cupboard under the stairs has 1 pair of sky dish feeds free and also a digital aerial feed available.
5. Whilst I don't want incredible sound I find sound from an LCD screen to difficult to listen to when watching tv.

I hope this update is able to spark some ideas as I can't think of the best solution at the moment.

Thanks

My prievous suggestion still fits that bill:

A good solution would be a video sender between the kitchen TV and set top box under the stairs.

[chris_elevate]

That's great, thanks.

Which video sender and roughly how much money? Do they work well? Which set top box would you suggest? I can have either satellite or aerial as have spare cables for both. I guess the box would need have an audio output and outfit for the bathroom tv so it can send the tv to that.

Is there a basic box that can do that and store programmes too.

How about changing channel?

[chris_elevate]

Ok how about this. Would it be better if I could get a digital aerial to the TV? I've phoned a company today and they've said they could drop me a cable from the loft down the side of the house and into the kitchen where I need it.

Would it be possible to send/get the audio back to the cupboard under the stairs to plug into my amp in order to the the tv sound through my ceiling speakers?

Thanks.

[chrisjr]

Firstly there is no such animal as a digital aerial. It is a UHF TV band aerial, it does not care what signals it receives.

Secondly getting audio back to the amp depends on a number of factors. The most important being what if any audio output there is on the TV. If there is an analogue audio output of some sort then that can be used. On many modern sets this is either a SCART or headphone socket. The problem with anything other than a headphone socket is that you might not have any control over the volume as most other outputs are fixed level.

Assuming you can get an audio signal out of the TV whether you can get it to the amp depends on how far the cable has to run and how easy it is to run said cable. With very long cable runs the signal can degrade quite significantly depending on the cable type. And you may find you have to make the cable and terminate the plugs at each end your self as there might not be a ready made cable of the right length. Also if the cable has to go through a wall it is easier to feed a bit of wire through a hole than the cable plus plugs.

[Winston_1]

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Originally Posted by chris_elevate

Would it be possible to send/get the audio back to the cupboard under the stairs to plug into my amp in order to the the tv sound through my ceiling speakers?

Thanks.

You could use one of the legal FM transmitters and an FM tuner in the cupboard under the stairs.

You presumably cannot use a cable for the reasons previously mentioned, but if you could use a cable it would be better to use a cable to extend the aerial feed from cupboard under stairs to kitchen TV.

[anthony david]

The picture quality on cheap analogue FM video senders is poor on all but small screens. Microwave ovens, even your neighbours, wipe out the signal as well. In the end it will be better if you get a tradesman in to run cables even though that may involve the expense of plastering, anything else will just be an unsatisfactory bodge.