Yes that was the first part of the argument, nothing we hadn't heard before but it was when she implied that Tony's wife was a tart that I thought she went too far. If she made any kind of comment about his kids then she definitely overstepped the mark in my opinion. What she says about Tony is one thing but she has no right to bring his family in to it. Personally I think she should have been given a warning about that, maybe she was. I'm fairly sure we didn't see all of the argument and I doubt we ever will.

I suspect it'll all come out once the programme has finished. They'll be queuing up to 'sell' their story to the highest bidder.
I personally think the production team has 'edited' her comments massively, & we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg.

Having said that, I'm at a loss why some FM's think she's brilliant, to me she comes across as a nasty spiteful, rude, vitriolic, foul mouthed harpy! She's old enough to be able to control her emotions in a civilised articulate manner, instead of having childish tantrums which invariably consists of ridiculous name calling when things don't go her way, or when she perceives an insult (which 9 times out of 10) was never there in the 1st place!

It's true what they say........you can't buy class!

The difference is that Lady C is definitely no Lady (her title is only a courtesy one as a result of her disastrous and short marriage over 40 years ago) whilst Tony very definitely is a singer.......

She's a common oik just like the rest of us, but has assumed airs and graces above her station, whilst Tony has sold millions of records with his voice!

That's fair enough, although I'm not sure why you have directed your post at me. I wasn't being dogmatic or putting words, either accurate or inaccurate, in anyone's mouth.

Some of you don't like her and that's fine.

But you must realise how pathetic you sound when you create these mythical conspiracies and stories about the 'Horrors' other campmates must have to go through without any evidence to back it up. It's all assumptions, and I'd advise people to stay clear of them until anything comes out if they wish to have any credence on this forum.

It's no surprise that it's the usual offenders looking to criticise Lady C (yawn). Have a day off will you

Chris is on Lorraine in a minute, will be interesting to hear his answers to her leading questions.

That's not quite right though, is it?

It really started when Tony, with the backing of the others refused to do the chambermaid task. When she came back into camp with K and C she started to berate Tony and the others and the row erupted and has continued from there.
However, she refused to do the 1st trial cos a cousin was buried alive (I have no idea whether that's true or not) but she got the full support of the camp and when Tony refused to do the task, he was only doing what she had already done, so it should have been equal and left at that, but she refused to let it drop believing that she's better than everyone else

I think Lady C did go too far in her explosion at Tony the other night. That wasn't nice and she was out of line and way OTT in the way she lashed out at him.

But I can still despise Tony and Duncan whilst recognising that Lady C is in the wrong. Tony and Duncan (especially Duncan, not so much Tony) are complete tools.

Those little digs make me wonder about your age aurora.

Some people seem to forget she was quite happy to nominate Tony to be Chambermaid so at that point they were getting ok. It all degenerated the next morning on her return to camp.

No. Before that Tony and Duncan had staid Lady C was the laziest in Camp following her successful eating Trial. She was offended and rightly so and this was the start of Tony and Duncan goading her.

Well Kieron was so upset for her, he was prepared to walk, Fern Vicky Chris and George enjoy her company and are always chatting, did not hear any comment about Tony's Wife or Children.Susanna also liked her and Brian is going for Dinner when they get back to London. Says a lot about the Lady.

BIB. It was actually Tony & Chris & they also nominated Yvette.

. Their rationale was stated at the time as being that they believed those nominated as the hardest working would be given some sort of difficult physical task. They were mistaken in this

I can't believe that people are actually forming opinions on people based on what 'might have happened' which the edit 'might not have' shown.

Isn't that a bit conspiracy theorist?

Why bother watching the show at all? Why not just make up any show you want out of your own imagination?
Because then by writing our own fictional account of events in posts what we could do is create our own fictional version of IAC, and then write posts to argue over these fictional elements which are of our own making.

Quite. In fact I'll start my own unsubstantiated rumour:

Who pushed poor lady C over. There's no way she fell over herself, she's not a frail old lady you know. There's more to this than meets the eye.

exactly, there was no malice in it, it was "Colin" who took offence when she should have listened first

That's a matter of opinion. Personally I think Tony was being malicious

My hubby reckons it was that big lump Tony

I can imagine they had legitimate cause to say she was least hard working around camp too. If it was who has done the best at trials, she would have been at the other end of the list.

Seriously !!!!?

That was the reasoning they both gave at the time they were making the decision. It was shown in full or so it would appear, so there's no reason to assume that they had somehow concocted it between the pair of them as an excuse for getting a dig in at either of the two women why labelled as being the least hard working campmates.

But Yvette had done nothing of note at that stage or had she. We saw Lady C and the Trial, so how was their excuse (BS) believable.

because doing a trial, does not equal being hard working around camp?

Winning meals for the entire camp counts as work to me

This.