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Old 01-10-2016, 21:39
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I'm afraid you are entirely missing the point. It's not about individual movies and whether they are pro or anti women just because of a line or two of dialogue.

Your examples of what women's dialogue would be if they weren't talking about men seem horribly sexist to me. Did I miss something again?

Are the women characters present just adjuncts to the male characters and to talk about frivolous things or are they central to the plot? The test is trying to address that bias.

As I said, what it would need to strengthen the case would be a similar analysis of men's dialog.
1st BIB: But surely this is exactly what the Bechdel "Test" is?

2nd BIB: What "bias" is this? Why are you assuming that (for example) sexual attractiveness is a "frivolous" issue?

As previously adumbrated, any test that is passed by The Wild Women of Wongo, but not by The Passion of Joan of Arc, is not in any sense useful as a diagnostic of antifeminism.
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Old 02-10-2016, 11:06
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No, if you go with the idea that a teleport destroys the original of something and creates an exact copy then the original Doctor died way back.
This, and other questions associated with teleporting/transporting/beaming are raised in "Spock Must Die!" by James Blish. Dr McCoy, who was never very at ease with having his molecules beamed all over the universe, asks if he is still himself or a transporter artifact, and if a person's soul survives transportation.

A similar question is raised, but not addressed, by the Next Generation story "Relics", in which Montgomery Scott is found to survive as transporter data in a memory buffer, and resurrected.
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Old 02-10-2016, 12:56
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Looks like the forthcoming power of the daleks release will be a wide-screen release. I'm kind of not happy that this will not match the rest of the range as all the previous animations have been in 4:3.
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Old 02-10-2016, 16:16
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Looks like the forthcoming power of the daleks release will be a wide-screen release. I'm kind of not happy that this will not match the rest of the range as all the previous animations have been in 4:3.
I can understand some not being happy with this as the original programme was obviously 4:3. However, the animation is only going to be an approximation of what was originally broadcast, since there are only the surviving clips and telesnaps to go on, the rest will have to be "made up". For that reason I'm not too bothered about it being widescreen, since it isn't what was originally broadcast. And, in a way, it will look good filling up the whole screen. I don't think the comparison to previous animations is all that relevant, since they were filler episodes alongside existing ones, whereas this is 100% animation.
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Old 04-10-2016, 06:40
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It is now October 4th and The Weeping Angels has now been released here in the US. That makes the list:


The Complete Third Series (Blu-ray): US: November 15th
The Power of the Daleks: UK: November 21st. US: ?
Series Eight, Part Two (DVD): US: December 13th
The Complete Fourth Series (Blu-Ray): US: March 14th, 2017.
The Complete Second Series (Blu-ray): US: ?
The TV Movie (Blu-ray): US: ?


We currently have just one more release set for the UK, The Power of the Daleks, but I hope that enough are sold that they start announcing that other currently lost serials will be animated and/or finished up with animation.

Also, I am really hoping that The Complete Third Series is actually released on November 15th here in the US and that it doesn't simply fall off of the schedule like The Complete Second Series did.
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Old 04-10-2016, 09:58
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Also, I am really hoping that The Complete Third Series is actually released on November 15th here in the US and that it doesn't simply fall off of the schedule like The Complete Second Series did.
It aleady has. Same goes for Series Four.
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Old 04-10-2016, 10:04
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It aleady has. Same goes for Series Four.
Noooo! KHAN!!!!!

Why? Why? Why?

That makes the list:

The Power of the Daleks: UK: November 21st. US: ?
Series Eight, Part Two (DVD): US: December 13th
The Complete Second Series (Blu-ray): US: ?
The Complete Third Series (Blu-ray): US: ?
The Complete Fourth Series (Blu-Ray): US: ?
The TV Movie (Blu-ray): US: ?

It looks as if we will have a full 2017 release schedule/list/thread. I am both happy and sad at this development; I want my Blu-Rays! LOL!


Edit: P.S. I wonder how closely it will follow my proposed 2017 release schedule. LOL!
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Old 04-10-2016, 13:08
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1st BIB: But surely this is exactly what the Bechdel "Test" is?

2nd BIB: What "bias" is this? Why are you assuming that (for example) sexual attractiveness is a "frivolous" issue?

As previously adumbrated, any test that is passed by The Wild Women of Wongo, but not by The Passion of Joan of Arc, is not in any sense useful as a diagnostic of antifeminism.
For those two films. Maybe.

Are you confusing "quality" with gender bias in this?

I don't know the film, so I'm forced into debating in general terms.

For example, "The Passion of Joan of Arc" may be a "quality" film about a serious subject, and it may treat the lead female character seriously, but if the only named female is Joan of Arc then it is biased. It may be because it reflects the gender bias in Joan of Arc's time (many "historicals" do) but on the other hand the film's writers chose (consciously or otherwise) to keep the rest of the speaking cast male. How many other "serious" (allegedly) historical movies feature males predominantly? This film is atypical within that genre in that the title character is female.

How many contrary examples can you cite out of the thousands of films "tested"?
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Old 04-10-2016, 19:07
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For those two films. Maybe.

Are you confusing "quality" with gender bias in this?

I don't know the film, so I'm forced into debating in general terms.

For example, "The Passion of Joan of Arc" may be a "quality" film about a serious subject, and it may treat the lead female character seriously, but if the only named female is Joan of Arc then it is biased. It may be because it reflects the gender bias in Joan of Arc's time (many "historicals" do) but on the other hand the film's writers chose (consciously or otherwise) to keep the rest of the speaking cast male. How many other "serious" (allegedly) historical movies feature males predominantly? This film is atypical within that genre in that the title character is female.

How many contrary examples can you cite out of the thousands of films "tested"?
Some movies are targeted at men as their audience. They may or may not have two women talking about something other than men in the movie. Some movies are targeted at women as their audience. They may or may not have two men talking about something other than women in the movie (see the aforementioned "Bad Moms", for example).

How does this necessarily equate to bias? Also, how many movies were tested towards looking at a bias against men? Even if we were to assume that it does equate to a "bias" rather than just targeting an audience, so what? It is just a conversation and does not address the larger bias that male gender is deemed expendable while only women are deemed good enough to live.
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Old 06-10-2016, 17:44
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I suppose we might as well soon add The Smugglers to the list as Philip Morris has been tweeting a pic of Anneke Wilks dressed as polly on the beach they filmed there with Polly poses.
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Old 07-10-2016, 06:19
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I suppose we might as well soon add The Smugglers to the list as Philip Morris has been tweeting a pic of Anneke Wilks dressed as polly on the beach they filmed there with Polly poses.
I really hope that you are right. Although, if you are, I think that, at this point, it will probably go on next year's list.
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Old 07-10-2016, 11:05
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I really hope that you are right. Although, if you are, I think that, at this point, it will probably go on next year's list.
Alot of fans have picked up on it finding it very odd that alough he hasent confirmed anything but retweeted something from the last episode of Smugglers.

Mind you Kalidoscope gave a bunch of stuff back recently including a Avengers episode.
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Old 11-10-2016, 10:25
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Total:

Men: 73
Men Who Die: 46

Women: 45
Women Who Die: 7



Don't worry, there is only one more episode to go and then this exercise will be over.
Well, here is the last entry in this diversion off of the main topic of the list.

Last night, I re-watched The Husbands of River Song.

Males:
Nardole: Becomes a Head of the Robot (Lives? Dies? It is kind of a limbo state.)
Hydroflax: Dies
Ramone: Becomes a Head of the Robot (Lives? Dies? It is kind of a limbo state.)
Flemming: Dies.
Butler: Dies.
Scratch: Dies.
Searching Worker: Lives.

Females:
River Song: Lives.
Woman Server on Ship: Dies.
Maitre D': Lives.

I am not 100% sure what to do with Nardole and Ramone. They kind of live (their heads) and they kind of die (their bodies). For the sake of this study, I will, once again, take the line that is against my hypothesis and count them as living. While I think that it is a questionable call (I personally think that we should call them a draw); it will once again prove that by going against myself whenever there is any question as to how to count things, the numbers will still show the bias.

The grand total for all of the episodes in Series 9 is:

Men: 80
Men Who Die: 50

Women: 48
Women Who Die: 8

The percentage of men who die: 62.5%
The percentage of women who die: 16.7%

You are nearly four times as likely to die on Doctor Who if you are male than if you are female. The vast majority of women live (83.3%!!!!) whilst a good majority of men die (62.5%).

Now, forget the conversation test. This death to gender ratio here, this is real bias.
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Old 12-10-2016, 08:56
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I suppose we might as well soon add The Smugglers to the list as Philip Morris has been tweeting a pic of Anneke Wilks dressed as polly on the beach they filmed there with Polly poses.
and in the last few hours he's been tweeting pics from the wheel in space (but i have a feeling morris is being a bit of a troll )
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Old 14-10-2016, 06:03
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For those two films. Maybe.

Are you confusing "quality" with gender bias in this?

I don't know the film, so I'm forced into debating in general terms.

For example, "The Passion of Joan of Arc" may be a "quality" film about a serious subject, and it may treat the lead female character seriously, but if the only named female is Joan of Arc then it is biased.
The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928) is considered a landmark movie and one of the best films of all time.
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Old 18-10-2016, 08:58
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My wife and I went on vacation in September. One of the places that we visited was Paris. She had never been there before. I had, but not in twenty years. We visited the Museum D' Orsay while we there and we saw the Vincent Van Gogh paintings, the one of the church and the self-portrait. She could not understand why I was so fascinated with those paintings and then I showed her Vincent and The Doctor when we returned home (which is in my top ten favorite episodes of all time - you can confirm this by looking at that thread) and she cried.

It is such a great episode and it was wonderful to look at the actual physical paintings for myself.
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Old 18-10-2016, 14:18
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and in the last few hours he's been tweeting pics from the wheel in space (but i have a feeling morris is being a bit of a troll )
Im sure the fans are getting sick of this crap. If you have episodes announce them!
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Old 18-10-2016, 16:49
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Im sure the fans are getting sick of this crap. If you have episodes announce them!
I think most people simply ignore the man these days. Which he clearly doesn't like.
He found a few excellent episodes a few years back, but the fact that nothing more has been forthcoming at all indicates to me that he's found nothing else and any 'hints' in his random tweets are there solely to keep his name bouncing around the fans. He strikes me as a terrible attention seeker.
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Old 21-10-2016, 18:46
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Class is now up for pre-order on Amazon UK - Blu-ray and DVD.

It currently says 2nd January, but as that's gonna be a bank holiday I imagine it'll slip to the 3rd.
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Old 22-10-2016, 19:36
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Class is now up for pre-order on Amazon UK - Blu-ray and DVD.

It currently says 2nd January, but as that's gonna be a bank holiday I imagine it'll slip to the 3rd.
Hooray! I guess that we should also add Series 10. That makes the list:


The Power of the Daleks: UK: November 21st. US: ?
Series Eight, Part Two (DVD): US: December 13th
Class: Series One: UK: Jan 2nd or 3rd, US: ?
Series Ten: UK: ?, US: ?
The Complete Second Series (Blu-ray): US: ?
The Complete Third Series (Blu-ray): US: ?
The Complete Fourth Series (Blu-Ray): US: ?
The TV Movie (Blu-ray): US: ?
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Old 24-10-2016, 23:16
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Hooray! I guess that we should also add Series 10. That makes the list:


The Power of the Daleks: UK: November 21st. US: ?
Series Eight, Part Two (DVD): US: December 13th
Class: Series One: UK: Jan 2nd or 3rd, US: ?
Series Ten: UK: ?, US: ?
The Complete Second Series (Blu-ray): US: ?
The Complete Third Series (Blu-ray): US: ?
The Complete Fourth Series (Blu-Ray): US: ?
The TV Movie (Blu-ray): US: ?
Once again that list still hasent included the Mindgame Saga.

Its released November 14th. on DVD!
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Old 25-10-2016, 07:17
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Once again that list still hasent included the Mindgame Saga.

Its released November 14th. on DVD!
I can if you want me to, I just never know what to do with the unofficial stuff - the kind of related stuff that is not BBC like this. Also, after the Devil's End stuff having at least six or seven different release dates in the past four years, I am distrustful of third party release dates being real.

But, sure, I'll include it if you want me to do as such.
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Old 25-10-2016, 07:27
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Last night my main Doctor Who watching group finished the 3rd Doctor. Five and a half years in and we are three Doctors down, nine to go.

Planet of The Spiders was a great story. I really like the Flowers for Algernon guy and The Doctor's old teacher. The foreshadowing on the regeneration was incredibly heavy handed, but I guess that it might have been needed at the time.

I kept wondering if the Spiders on their backs had anything to do with or were related to the Spider in "Turn Left".

Overall it was a great story and I am sad to see this Doctor go. He was wonderful. My one solace there is that Tom Baker is my favorite Doctor and we will probably have at least two or three years of him. Oh, and we will get to see Pertwee again eventually in The Five Doctors.

Anyways, we had fun, watched the six part story, drank vodka and ate Tardis cake.
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Old 28-10-2016, 15:10
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Details of the Power of the Daleks DVD have finally been made available, including confirmation that it's a two-disc release.

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2016/10...-material.html
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Old 28-10-2016, 21:34
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Details of the Power of the Daleks DVD have finally been made available, including confirmation that it's a two-disc release.

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2016/10...-material.html
Very irritating that the surviving clips are not going to be on the DVD. I assume they are on another DVD but it would have been good to have everything together. I guess the reconstruction is the CD-ROM version that was produced years ago.
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