Originally Posted by GDK:
“I'm afraid you are entirely missing the point. It's not about individual movies and whether they are pro or anti women just because of a line or two of dialogue.
Your examples of what women's dialogue would be if they weren't talking about men seem horribly sexist to me. Did I miss something again?
Are the women characters present just adjuncts to the male characters and to talk about frivolous things or are they central to the plot? The test is trying to address that bias.
As I said, what it would need to strengthen the case would be a similar analysis of men's dialog.”
“I'm afraid you are entirely missing the point. It's not about individual movies and whether they are pro or anti women just because of a line or two of dialogue.
Your examples of what women's dialogue would be if they weren't talking about men seem horribly sexist to me. Did I miss something again?
Are the women characters present just adjuncts to the male characters and to talk about frivolous things or are they central to the plot? The test is trying to address that bias.
As I said, what it would need to strengthen the case would be a similar analysis of men's dialog.”
1st BIB: But surely this is exactly what the Bechdel "Test" is?
2nd BIB: What "bias" is this? Why are you assuming that (for example) sexual attractiveness is a "frivolous" issue?
As previously adumbrated, any test that is passed by The Wild Women of Wongo, but not by The Passion of Joan of Arc, is not in any sense useful as a diagnostic of antifeminism.




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