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Old 24-03-2016, 12:42
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bit surprised to see SKY aren't showing the england v WI women's match this afternoon and showing the pakistan v bangladesh women's game instead , i assume they just have to go with whatever game the host broadcaster give them
England vs WI was originally chosen.
But ICC Tv the host broadcaster decide they wanted every team shown once so Pak vs Ban and Ireland vs SA were chosen instead of far better game.
No idea what ICC TV playing at since it would be far better showing the best games then allowing every team to be shown once.
Bangladesh, Pakistan and Ireland women cricket standard is just not good enough.

More laughable decision when you considering pak and Bangladesh have had games shown already.

England vs WI is a key game as well, WI win India knocked out, England win and India vs WI becomes a knock out game.
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Old 24-03-2016, 19:40
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England vs WI was originally chosen.
But ICC Tv the host broadcaster decide they wanted every team shown once so Pak vs Ban and Ireland vs SA were chosen instead of far better game.

No idea what ICC TV playing at since it would be far better showing the best games then allowing every team to be shown once.
Bangladesh, Pakistan and Ireland women cricket standard is just not good enough.

More laughable decision when you considering pak and Bangladesh have had games shown already.

England vs WI is a key game as well, WI win India knocked out, England win and India vs WI becomes a knock out game.
You sure about that? Was it ever officially listed (by someone other than Sky) that England v West Indies would be shown? It wasn't listed here

http://www.icc-cricket.com/world-t20...-twenty20-2016

Also Ireland/South Africa wasn't shown as the men's game between India and Bangladesh was shown yesterday
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Old 24-03-2016, 20:50
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You sure about that? Was it ever officially listed (by someone other than Sky) that England v West Indies would be shown? It wasn't listed here

http://www.icc-cricket.com/world-t20...-twenty20-2016

Also Ireland/South Africa wasn't shown as the men's game between India and Bangladesh was shown yesterday
Sorry meant Ireland vs Australia game.

When Sky putted up the games last month none of the TV games clashed with the mens game and Ireland, South Africa didn't have a game on tv, pretty much saw India, England and Australia.
Maybe Sky made a mistake but read on twitter during the opening women game that ICC changed the tv games so Ireland and South Africa games are shown so everyone at least features once.
it was certainly last minute since Ireland and South Africa were not originally meant to be on tv before this press release.

Edit Going to see if I can find the tweet, looked legit since I definitely remember seeing England vs West indies being shown live.
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Old 24-03-2016, 21:33
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Looks like Sky jumped the gun and assumed England vs West indies will be televised.
found the tweet and it wasn't convincing enough just some people that follow women cricket that were shocked England vs West indies wasn't going to be televised.

Found some interesting tweet while looking for the tweet.
Kev Wright ‏@kevwright11 3h3 hours ago
@RafNicholson we all sat around our laptops and radios whilst ICC execs hid behind the same bloody quote - "the host broadcaster decides"
Clare Connor ‏@ConnorCricket 3h3 hours ago
In reply to many questions regarding #ENG Women v #WI Women not being on Sky - the host broadcaster decides which #WT20 matches to cover
Still can't believe ICC did not show this game.
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Old 24-03-2016, 21:46
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Looks like Sky jumped the gun and assumed England vs West indies will be televised.
found the tweet and it wasn't convincing enough just some people that follow women cricket that were shocked England vs West indies wasn't going to be televised.


Still can't believe ICC did not show this game.
It's a classic case of cake and eating. If every and only England, India and Australia games were shown people would be claiming it's Big 3 bias again.

At 59/0 chasing 109 it looked like that game would be every bit as one sided as the Pakistan/Bangladesh game.
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Old 24-03-2016, 21:49
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Why isn't every game available to TV. Its a world cup?
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Old 24-03-2016, 21:53
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Why isn't every game available to TV. Its a world cup?
thats what i found confusing , surely they would have had cameras at all games and each broadcaster taking the feed could choose what game they wanted when there is a clash
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Old 24-03-2016, 22:28
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thats what i found confusing , surely they would have had cameras at all games and each broadcaster taking the feed could choose what game they wanted when there is a clash
Agree especially when they had the cameras at every ground except for Chennai.
ICC were even paying for the 13 televised games, not sure it would actually cost much more to televise the extra games barring hiring more TV commentators and frankly speaking they have enough commentators in india to cover every game.
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Old 25-03-2016, 11:56
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Why isn't every game available to TV. Its a world cup?
thats what i found confusing , surely they would have had cameras at all games and each broadcaster taking the feed could choose what game they wanted when there is a clash
Agree especially when they had the cameras at every ground except for Chennai.
ICC were even paying for the 13 televised games, not sure it would actually cost much more to televise the extra games barring hiring more TV commentators and frankly speaking they have enough commentators in india to cover every game.
Quite simply there just isn't the market there for it currently. Coverage is expanding, but in terms of audience reach the cost benefits and effectiveness of producing Ireland Women vs South Africa women on the same slot as India vs Bangladesh just isn't there.

In England we are fortunate that we have the audience for such coverage and have become used to it, but it's only over a year ago that we weren't having Womens' tests broadcast. In 2 years time when the Womens tournament becomes standalone things might be different, but whilst it's up against the mens game it will always be the poorer relation.

Perhaps the question we should be asking is why was no-one bothered that all the games weren't being shown until yesterday? No-one cared that Australia vs South Africa or Ireland vs Sri Lanka weren't shown.

If England vs West Indies had been shown instead of Pakistan/Bangladesh would we be even having this conversation? I'd venture 99% of the people complaining would have been quite happy with the half and half situation.
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Old 25-03-2016, 18:27
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A general question about World T20.

So far, there has been a World T20 in:

2007, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2014 and 2016.

So it's been in a regular pattern of every two years (I know it was a bit different at the start - but even then it was at least every two years).

So why is it now moving to a four year cycle with the next event in 2020?

The ICC's rolling four year schedule is now:

World T20, Champions Trophy, blank year, World Cup

Seems surprising to have a blank year instead of just having a T20 every two years.
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Old 25-03-2016, 18:29
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Not sure the reasoning but i enjoy the 2 year rotation of the wt20. By going to 4 years international t20 will be pointless for the next two years as sides change rapidly
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Old 25-03-2016, 19:31
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A general question about World T20.

So far, there has been a World T20 in:

2007, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2014 and 2016.

So it's been in a regular pattern of every two years (I know it was a bit different at the start - but even then it was at least every two years).

So why is it now moving to a four year cycle with the next event in 2020?

The ICC's rolling four year schedule is now:

World T20, Champions Trophy, blank year, World Cup

Seems surprising to have a blank year instead of just having a T20 every two years.
The aim is to provide more breathing space in the calendar and not have an overkill on T20

If you have a World T20 every two years, and then possibly an Olympics throw in also, teams would naturally put a heavier focus on T20 at the expense of other formats

In addition the issue at ICC HQ is (unlike most other sports) they are responsible for organisation of all of the major international events and the schedule isn't is seen as what you've put, it's seen in the global round, for instance

2016 - World T20, (poss Womens World Cup Qualifier)
2017 - Women's World Cup, Men's Champions Trophy, Women's T20 Qualifier
2018 - Women's World T20, Under-19 World Cup, Men's World Cup Qualifier
2019 - Men's World Cup, Mens World T20 Qualifier
2020 - Men's World T20, Under-19 World Cup, Women's World Cup Qualifier
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Old 25-03-2016, 20:32
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Not sure the reasoning but i enjoy the 2 year rotation of the wt20. By going to 4 years international t20 will be pointless for the next two years as sides change rapidly
Where are we with getting it into the Commonwealth Games? If so, would/should non-commonwealth countries (Ireland for example) be allowed as guests?

But I agree with spacing them out more otherwise it's overkill.

Could the 2 yrs up to the 20/20 WC simply be 20/20 internationals tagged on to tests, and the 2 yrs to the 50-overs WC then just be for 50 over games, separating the two and keeping things "fresh"?
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Old 25-03-2016, 20:49
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A general question about World T20.

So far, there has been a World T20 in:

2007, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2014 and 2016.

So it's been in a regular pattern of every two years (I know it was a bit different at the start - but even then it was at least every two years).

So why is it now moving to a four year cycle with the next event in 2020?

The ICC's rolling four year schedule is now:

World T20, Champions Trophy, blank year, World Cup

Seems surprising to have a blank year instead of just having a T20 every two years.
they made the women t20 take the blank spot.
Also ICC plan was to have a major tournament every 4 years for each format.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/c...ry/646147.html

but the Test plans got scrapped, we would have to see if they do change the decision on the T20 but like always it depends on what the Big 3 and more importantly what the Indian broadcasters want.


EDIT plus in the Next Cycle ICC entire structure might be different rumers going around that World cup/Test format might change to give more context to bilateral series and They may be some sort of Test league, ODI league.
Till ICC and full members sort out what happens after 2020, no one can say for sure how the ICC events will be like in 2020 and beyond.
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Old 25-03-2016, 22:13
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Where are we with getting it into the Commonwealth Games? If so, would/should non-commonwealth countries (Ireland for example) be allowed as guests?

But I agree with spacing them out more otherwise it's overkill.

Could the 2 yrs up to the 20/20 WC simply be 20/20 internationals tagged on to tests, and the 2 yrs to the 50-overs WC then just be for 50 over games, separating the two and keeping things "fresh"?
Your style and question asking is very similar to that of Howard_H
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Old 26-03-2016, 11:56
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Not really a Sky related thing, but fair play to the ICC and BBC for making interesting in play clips and short highlights of games quickly and easily available.
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Old 26-03-2016, 14:20
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Some of the commentating as been woeful so far in this tournament. So what a relief to hear Bumble.
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Old 26-03-2016, 16:48
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Russell Arnold is a nightmare dreading him when Sri Lanka tour England in May
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Old 26-03-2016, 16:51
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Russell Arnold is a nightmare dreading him when Sri Lanka tour England in May
He's a lot better than Slater
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Old 26-03-2016, 17:16
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He's a lot better than Slater
Slater reminds me of a poor mans Shane Warne
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Old 26-03-2016, 17:19
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Slater reminds me of a poor mans Shane Warne
That aint good!
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Old 26-03-2016, 17:37
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Slater is alright don't mind him I detest Russel Arnold his voice annoys me
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Old 26-03-2016, 17:50
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Russell Arnold is a nightmare dreading him when Sri Lanka tour England in May
he not working for sky.
Sangakkara and Jayawardene is the comms or working for sky.
One of them is doing verdict the other doing comms.

For Pakistan series it is Rameez Raja and Wasim Akram.
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Old 26-03-2016, 18:15
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Wonder how well that rated. 'Prime' sports time with no football on around the country in the main and a close game. If that was on BBC/ITV it would of got millions and millions watching.
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Old 26-03-2016, 21:24
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Wonder how well that rated. 'Prime' sports time with no football on around the country in the main and a close game. If that was on BBC/ITV it would of got millions and millions watching.
Half a million tops
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