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Old 11-08-2016, 10:27
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Looks like Michael Holding could be leaving sky very soon. He just said in regards to Pakistans tactics that if that's the way modern cricket is going thank god I'll be out the commentary box soon. To which Gower replied not that soon you have 4 or 5 days here at the oval to do yet.

I know he's said a few times he doesn't like the way modern cricket is going and he's looking at alternate things to do rather than commentating.
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:18
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He said in interview he was going to leave soon a year or so ago. Big loss if he does go. One of the voices of summer for me
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Old 11-08-2016, 12:45
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he mentioned that he won't be renewing contract because he hates the way cricket being run at the moment.
this was said 2 years ago.
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Old 11-08-2016, 13:25
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with holding going and Botham/Gower mostly likely going in the next 2-4 yrs so they could be big changes to the Sky A team.
wonder who Sky will replace botham, gower and Holding suspect sky would want big names to do the role and not the current B or C team commentators.
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Old 11-08-2016, 13:29
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What a shame if Mikey goes, he is a wonderful commentator

I just hope Andrew Strauss doesnt decide to re-join anytime soon, he was bloody awful. As for replacements ? Well they seem to like former Captains so i wonder if Michael Vaughan may be tempted away from TMS/C5. Marcus Trescothick is a cricket nut so he must be a contender, doing lots of domestic matches of late. Rob Key is very good but will be be a 'big' enough name for the test matches, he certainly is good enough.
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Old 11-08-2016, 13:44
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I like to think that when Holding does decide to retire they'd be a reasonable song and dance about it being his last test.
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Old 11-08-2016, 13:47
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I like to think that when Holding does decide to retire they'd be a reasonable song and dance about it being his last test.
been confirmed but Sky not mentioned it or made it obvious which is sad to see.
http://www.wisdenindia.com/cricket-a...pproach/218675
I heard one comment that that’s the modern way. All I can say is, if that’s the modern way, thank god I’ll soon be retiring from the commentary box.
quite sad Sky didn't mention it this morning and it came out in a cryptic way.
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Old 11-08-2016, 13:53
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Holding is 62 and has been commentating for over 25 years, "soon" could easily be another year or two. I've seen nothing to suggest this is Holdings final test.
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Old 11-08-2016, 13:55
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Why would Holding mention it twice that he will be leaving soon if he not leaving soon.
Holding wouldn't write about retirement unless he is actually retiring soon.
not sure what confirmation you are waiting for but it is likely Holding leaving after this summer.

Today sky talk is questionable evidence for him leaving but the article is quite clear that he retiring soon especially when you add in the interview 2 yrs ago when he said that when contract finish with sky he won't renew it.
So it is pretty obvious holding made his mind up about retirement.
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Old 11-08-2016, 13:57
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Why would Holding mention it twice that he will be leaving soon if he not leaving soon.
Holding wouldn't write about retirement unless he is actually retiring soon.
not sure what confirmation you are waiting for but it is likely Holding leaving after this summer.
Anyone who is 62 years of age is close to retiring. There's a difference between soon and imminent.
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Old 11-08-2016, 13:59
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Again you are missing the point, why would anyone mention retirement if they are not retiring or leaving.
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Old 11-08-2016, 14:05
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Again you are missing the point, why would anyone mention retirement if they are not retiring or leaving.
Because he's 62 years of age! How are you not getting that? He's been commentating 25 years and has been commentating for a lot longer than he will continue to commentate, therefore, he is close to retiring. That goes for anyone who is in their 60s, you are close to retiring, you will "soon" be retiring.

This may well end of being holdings last test but there is a lack of evidence so far .
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Old 11-08-2016, 14:15
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Because he's 62 years of age! How are you not getting that? He's been commentating 25 years and has been commentating for a lot longer than he will continue to commentate, therefore, he is close to retiring. That goes for anyone who is in their 60s, you are close to retiring, you will "soon" be retiring.

This may well end of being holdings last test but there is a lack of evidence [u] so far [/u].
that is hogwash considering he wrote in an article couple of days ago he is retiring that is pretty clear evidence that he is going.

Really people wouldn't say they are retiring unless they are actually retiring.
Not sure what point you are making since age has nothing to do with it.
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Old 11-08-2016, 19:03
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What a shame if Mikey goes, he is a wonderful commentator

I just hope Andrew Strauss doesnt decide to re-join anytime soon, he was bloody awful. .
Agree on Mikey, he has become a little grumpy but his points are usually very valid.

As for Strauss, you'll be safe there he's a bit busy.
KP however?
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Old 14-08-2016, 20:59
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Another test match summer ends. How have sky performed?
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Old 14-08-2016, 21:15
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Another test match summer ends. How have sky performed?
They cover cricket better than anyone else and cover it better than its ever being covered before. Comprehensive, thorough, stacks of matches, hours of coverage, and a selection of incredible lunchtime features.

As for the commentary team

Athers - Brilliant
Nasser - Brilliant
Bumble - Brilliant
Mikey - Brilliant
Rambo - Very good. I like him as overseas pundit.
Lord Gower - Brilliant ( have you noticed he never uses notes when chatting to the others too )
Beefy - Grumpy, needs to be used less
Warne - Not half as funny as he thinks he is. Moments of brilliance, moments of annoyance.
Ian Ward - Excellent. Under used
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Old 14-08-2016, 21:24
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wonder which commentators will go to india hopefully Nasser, Athers and bumble go.
Beefy should be at home and watch golf or whatever he likes watching.
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Old 14-08-2016, 22:05
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I can't imagine there'll do their own commentary from Isleworth this time!
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Old 14-08-2016, 22:10
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I can't imagine there'll do their own commentary from Isleworth this time!
Wouldn't be shocked with sky cost cutting. Bangladesh and the safety issues if it goes ahead too...
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Old 14-08-2016, 22:28
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Wouldn't be shocked with sky cost cutting. Bangladesh and the safety issues if it goes ahead too...
TBH Star sports would probably pay for 2-3 english commentators so it would probably be more costly to stay in london then sky send a few men in india.
Bangladesh will probably be them using host feed with men in the studio if the tour happens.
if sky doesn't send anyone Star would still need to find 2-3 english commentators and why would they pay to use hoggard, collingwood or someone left field if they could just get someone from sky.

shouldn't be a problem like last time since Sky won't be sending any major production crew to india so bcci wouldn't be asking for payment to use the facilities.
at the moment Sky would do what they been doing in recent times and share the production with them loaning 3-4 commentators to star.
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Old 14-08-2016, 22:35
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Don't the BCCI censor their commentators? I can't imagine sky wanting to show coverage where their commentators can't speak their mind on issues like the DRS. I also can't imagine the likes of Athers, Nass, Bumble, and Botham liking being restricted on what they can the say.

I remember a few years Ian Chappell refusing to do commentary in India for the above reasons.
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Old 14-08-2016, 22:50
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Don't the BCCI censor their commentators? I can't imagine sky wanting to show coverage where their commentators can't speak their mind on issues like the DRS. I also can't imagine the likes of Athers, Nass, Bumble, and Botham liking being restricted on what they can the say.

I remember a few years Ian Chappell refusing to do commentary in India for the above reasons.
To be honest it is starting to be a myth and a lot of the so called censorship won't affect the english commentators.
should be remembered Holding did work for Star sports when WI toured and the guy will never work for any broadcaster that had any type of censorship.

from what I understand the commentators can't criticise the BCCI or start talking about the politic of the ICC, nothing cricket related is censored and vast majority of the time none of those two will be mentioned in the broadcast anyway.

Ian chappell made a mountain out of a mole hill and has to be remembered his brother had a terrible time as an Indian coach and still tend to be bitter this day about his time as an Indian coach, still attacks Dravid, Ganguly, Tendulkar for him getting sacked at his job.

Really can't see nasser, Bumble, Athers and beefy being restricted in what they can say in the broadcast considering they wouldn't know about the BCCI politics to actually comment on it and they never really speak about ICC politics on Sky anyway so why would they mention it in India.

Anyway BCCI is a different place to what it was 4 years ago since N srinivisan been removed and Anurag thakur in charge and really they both have different ideologies and thakur and the current ICC president shashank manohar isn't controlling of the media like Srinivisan was and can't see the censorship being in place with them two running BCCI in recent times.
Censorship was only really in place so N Srinivisan could hide that he was losing power and control of the BCCI plus make the big 3 coup sound good or hidden in the mainstream media.
BCCI can be very political at times and really run by MP and powerful men and really a lot of it doesn't have to be mentioned when the cricket is being played.
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Old 14-08-2016, 22:59
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I be very surprised if any of the english commentators have any issues with censorship in india and 2 yrs ago Bumble worked for the host feed of the IPL during the time Srinivasan was still in charge and IPL having betting scandals where commentators were not allowed to mention any of the controversy during broadcast so if bumble was happy to work then for indian television he will be happy to work now where censorship isn't even close to actually happen in the series.

Can't see any potential political stories to mention in the BCCI world at the moment and can't see many potential ICC political stories either that censorship would mean the commentators have to be silent about things.
Censorship about them not criticising the Indian team performances or results is crap and a myth considering when india last lost at home the team got crucified for the result and the commentators are equally harsh on the team if they lose away from home.
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Old 14-08-2016, 23:01
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i can't imagine the BCCI being happy with English commentators when they criticise the lack of Drs which they've done before. That could cause some friction between board and broadcaster. I think I'm right that the Star sports can't use Hawkeye for lbw decisions but can use it for other stuff such as bowlers lengths, so there is some control from the BCCI over the broadcasts.
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Old 14-08-2016, 23:03
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Lastly would be odd to not visit india for Censorship issues but commentate in WI where Holding banned, Tony cozier banned and commentators were told not to criticise the team or the board or you are out of a job.

At the moment india is not even close to being censorship like the Caribbean, wouldn't even surprise me if the censorship stuff doesn't even exist anymore since they don't need it anymore.
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