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Sky Sports Cricket Coverage 2016
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Bhaveshgor
03-09-2016
https://business.sky.com/tournaments
here sky stating 60 Domestic games a season including 15 One day games.
Although it probably means days though since no way did they ever show 60 domestic games a season considering in 2015 they only showed 58 days unless i missed 2 days of cricket.
http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/R...edule-released

no idea how many days they showed this year since Sky didn't release a list of games in April like they normally do.
But guessing they showed a lot of T20 games plus the normal 15 or so one day games so they didn't really have to show the 2nd county champions to cover the days requirement.
Neil_Harris
03-09-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“Again, I will ask the same question. How do you deduce that ?

I said

Sky aren't showing any more county games. Fair enough. It would be nice if they were but sadly they have decided not to. I agree that the county game needs help so it would have been a double bonus.


How is that either defending Sky or being sympathetic to them OR 'on their side' ?? ”

Maybe I've deduced it from our history on here. The past conversations. If wrong then so be it, but I doubt I am.
So long Darren
Bhaveshgor
03-09-2016
Bumble mentioned Rob Key, Nick Knight and Ather for the Test replace Ather for Nasser for ODI and that Bumble won't be doing India either.
So guessing Sky will be sending 3 men to india which is probably Ather, Nasser and Botham.
Darren Lethem
03-09-2016
Originally Posted by Neil_Harris:
“Maybe I've deduced it from our history on here. The past conversations. If wrong then so be it, but I doubt I am.
So long Darren”

So you cannot answer my question and tell me why I am being sympathetic towards Sky or defending them ?
Neil_Harris
03-09-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“So you cannot answer my question and tell me why I am being sympathetic towards Sky or defending them ?”

Darren , I'm not interested.
I assumed something based on history. If I'm wrong, I apologise.

I have no desire to engage in a conversation with you when you are like this.
Neil_Harris
03-09-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“Bumble mentioned Rob Key, Nick Knight and Ather for the Test replace Ather for Nasser for ODI and that Bumble won't be doing India either.
So guessing Sky will be sending 3 men to india which is probably Ather, Nasser and Botham.”

Beefy normally goes on the winter tours, mainly because the host broadcaster wants him.
Darren Lethem
03-09-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“Bumble mentioned Rob Key, Nick Knight and Ather for the Test replace Ather for Nasser for ODI and that Bumble won't be doing India either.
So guessing Sky will be sending 3 men to india which is probably Ather, Nasser and Botham.”

Sorry Bhav, I don't follow what you mean. Which matches will Rob Key be doing ? Really glad he has been promoted to international level, he is a very good commentator.
Darren Lethem
03-09-2016
Originally Posted by Neil_Harris:
“Darren , I'm not interested.
I assumed something based on history. If I'm wrong, I apologise.

I have no desire to engage in a conversation with you when you are like this.”

I am in an absolutely wonderful mood. Again you assume. You need to stop doing that because you are making a lot of incorrect assumptions.
Bhaveshgor
03-09-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“Sorry Bhav, I don't follow what you mean. Which matches will Rob Key be doing ? Really glad he has been promoted to international level, he is a very good commentator.”

Bumble mentioned Rob key will be working for the host broadcaster for the full bangladesh tour with Dominic Cork going as well but probably as a reporter.

Sorry I wasn't clear forgot to mention for the bangladesh tour.
Neil_Harris
03-09-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“I am in an absolutely wonderful mood. Again you assume. You need to stop doing that because you are making a lot of incorrect assumptions.”

Don't believe I ever mentioned anyone's mood?

This is my thread on cricket, I don't want any unpleasantness.
We've clashed on many threads, I don't want to do it here. OK?
Darren Lethem
03-09-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“Bumble mentioned Rob key will be working for the host broadcaster for the full bangladesh tour with Dominic Cork going as well but probably as a reporter.

Sorry I wasn't clear forgot to mention for the bangladesh tour.”

Dominic Cork has really started to grow on me. I didn't used to like him, thought he was trying to hard to be wacky and zany but he is a good commentator and reporter. In fact I saw him reporting for Sky Sports News from Everton ( I think ) on Deadline Day
Darren Lethem
03-09-2016
Originally Posted by Neil_Harris:
“Maybe not defending, more sympathetic to their cause. Basically on their side.”

Originally Posted by Neil_Harris:
“Maybe I've deduced it from our history on here. The past conversations. If wrong then so be it, but I doubt I am.
So long Darren”

Originally Posted by Neil_Harris:
“Darren , I'm not interested.
I assumed something based on history. If I'm wrong, I apologise.

I have no desire to engage in a conversation with you when you are like this.”

You have accused me of something and not proved it then had a sly dig at me in the follow up posts, even when apologising you make it sound like it is my fault. I will put it down to your age, I am guessing you are quite young.

Best thing all round for everybody is if we block each other then you won't completely misinterpret posts and I won't think you are trying to cause a row.

Bye Neil
inothernews
03-09-2016
To me it just feels like Sky have lost interest in the domestic game.

Every opportunity they bring up the subject of 8 city T20 franchise cricket, and don't even bother to research the teams who are playing. They just turn up and 'busk it' with lack of knowledge of who is out injured, or not appreciating someone isn't playing simply because they are out of form. They salivate at a full house at Lords for Middlesex v Surrey, or a Yorkshire side (provided it includes Root, Bairstow, Ballance, Rashid) buut don't even attempt to 'big up' the smaller sides. I notice they covered Somerset a lot this year (maybe because Taunton is nearly always a full house for T20? so gives the 'excitement' of a 'Big match- sold out)

I suppose a 4 day county match may cost them more to cover than viewers who will watch it, and they are clearly making cuts across the board (it must be about 6 big names who have left Sky News in last 3 months), but they don't even seem remotely interested or enthusiastic about the cricket they are covering. The latest trend of people like Key and Knight inviting their kids to say hello on tv is very annoying and self indulgent too.

Maybe showing more womens cricket than they used to has used up a sizeable chunk of their sixty days. But if they won't show Middlesex v Yorkshire when it looks like it will decide the championship I can't see them covering a cc game ever again.
Bhaveshgor
03-09-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“Dominic Cork has really started to grow on me. I didn't used to like him, thought he was trying to hard to be wacky and zany but he is a good commentator and reporter. In fact I saw him reporting for Sky Sports News from Everton ( I think ) on Deadline Day”

Stoke got a lot of stick from cricket fans for doing it, don't really know why though.
Think Cork gets a bad name when he work with Colville since they really don't get on and Colville loves to wind cork up a lot.
Think Cork is probably going since he did cover the bangladesh under 19 world cup and does have links with Asian broadcaster with him being used quite a lot for Ten Sport in recent times.

Cork is generally better when he separated from colville, he been ok when he done the under 19 world cup and international games but can be annoying when he works for sky in Domestic games but a lot of that is down to Colville.
Neil_Harris
03-09-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“You have accused me of something and not proved it then had a sly dig at me in the follow up posts, even when apologising you make it sound like it is my fault. I will put it down to your age, I am guessing you are quite young.

Best thing all round for everybody is if we block each other then you won't completely misinterpret posts and I won't think you are trying to cause a row.

Bye Neil”

How very childish. I just don't want a row on a civilsed forum.
You keep pushing for one. This is a thread about cricket on TV, not Darren's personal views on life.
Darren Lethem
03-09-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“Stoke got a lot of stick from cricket fans for doing it, don't really know why though.
Think Cork gets a bad name when he work with Colville since they really don't get on and Colville loves to wind cork up a lot.
Think Cork is probably going since he did cover the bangladesh under 19 world cup and does have links with Asian broadcaster with him being used quite a lot for Ten Sport in recent times.

Cork is generally better when he separated from colville, he been ok when he done the under 19 world cup and international games but can be annoying when he works for sky in Domestic games but a lot of that is down to Colville.”

I wonder how long Charles has left. Less and less commentary and hosting duties and the likes of Ward, Knight and Floyd doing more presenting. I think the best thing he does is the Saturday Stories and such, they are excellent.
Bhaveshgor
03-09-2016
Originally Posted by inothernews:
“To me it just feels like Sky have lost interest in the domestic game.

Every opportunity they bring up the subject of 8 city T20 franchise cricket, and don't even bother to research the teams who are playing. [b].”

Betting traders on twitter were going crazy the other day on Sky lack of research for the pakistani players the other day.
They basically were going crazy in the first odi that Yasir Shah wasn't picked even though Yasir is awful in one day cricket and basically at any opportunity they called Imad Wasim or Mohammad Nawaz crap because he didn't turn the ball much compared to yasir and really missing the point that spinning the ball more in one day cricket means nothing if the spinner can't take wickets or be economical or even bat much.
Imad Wasim at the moment isn't a bad cricketer averages 70 with the bat and 22 with the ball
This generally happen a lot for the home broadcaster or touring commentators.
during 2014-2015 period a lot of touring commentators, manjraker etc couldn't understand why Stokes wasn't in the one day team or why Finn was always dropped or unselectable Manjreker and a quite few indian commentators still remember the pace and hostility Finn bowled around 2012 and basically can't get the head around of why Finn isn't a consistent pick for England.
This Winter don't be surprise to hear indian Commentator mention all the time where is Monty why isn't panesar playing why isn't he touring.
Or Finn if he isn't being picked or if he does play but bowl very slow or looks pedestrian.
Bhaveshgor
03-09-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“I wonder how long Charles has left. Less and less commentary and hosting duties and the likes of Ward, Knight and Floyd doing more presenting. I think the best thing he does is the Saturday Stories and such, they are excellent.”

Yeah Saturday stories and his work with Bob willis is good.
He generally get the most out of Willis since he does tend to ask a lot of Negative question and Willis tends to be the best when England are awful or players are not doing well.

Hopefully he only does the Verdict and Lunchtime features.
Generally been a poor commentator these days although he a decent presenter but like you say Matt Floyd, Ward and Knight can do it now.
jazzydrury3
04-09-2016
Dominic Cork, left Talksport to do more duties with Sky, I thought he done well at Stoke the other day, he is a massive Stoke City fan, and seemed in his element.

I would be very surprised if they have shown there quota of cricket this summer, back in the Pro 40 days, You would get a game morealess every day.

Sky need to stop using Marcus Trescothick on Somerset games next year, he is so passionate it shows, aren't comms meant to be impartial, you had the Royal London cup game when you had him and Chris Rogers, Chris I think was a last minute call up that day as Knight was ill, and Rogers was at the ground.

If Sky want to make further cuts, im sure removing Colville and Gower would save them some
Neil_Harris
04-09-2016
Originally Posted by jazzydrury3:
“
I would be very surprised if they have shown there quota of cricket this summer, back in the Pro 40 days, You would get a game morealess every day.”

There last press release says at least 60 days of county cricket

http://www.skysports.com/cricket/news/12040/9636222/sky-sports-extends-partnership-with-england-wales-cricket-board-until-2019
chrisfinch
04-09-2016
Originally Posted by jazzydrury3:
“Sky need to stop using Marcus Trescothick on Somerset games next year, he is so passionate it shows, aren't comms meant to be impartial, you had the Royal London cup game when you had him and Chris Rogers, Chris I think was a last minute call up that day as Knight was ill, and Rogers was at the ground.

If Sky want to make further cuts, im sure removing Colville and Gower would save them some”

They aren't exactly full of Yorkshire-based commentators, but the way they gush over them every time they are on is probably more noticeable than Trescothick! Similar to how they were all over Hampshire and Sussex five or six years ago.

And yeah, I don't think Colville and Gower have long left at Sky. A shame, but now they aren't doing studio coverage on non-England international games, Ward, Floyd and Knight will probably end up doing everything between them soon.
mavreela
04-09-2016
Lloyd also tweeted "I don't know about contracts, schedules, other live sports at time ,personnel availability etc"

Certainly not confident one will be shown now, given all the cuts and that it will be lowly rated. But personally I am not going to read anything into him saying there will be no country championship match until it does not happen.

The late season match is never scheduled until the week before as they wait to see which will be the most meaningful to show based on the title race. And we already knew they are not required to show two matches because of the years in which they only aired one.

But as Lloyd does not work on those games there is no reason why he would know what Sky's plans were. And he has been clear before that he just does his job and does not know about such things.

Originally Posted by inothernews:
“Bet it would have been on if it was Surrey v Lancashire, as that is who the majority of commentators played for (plus non player Colville a huge Surrey fan)”

Sure. I mean I only have the schedule since 2010 and in that time they have never aired a Surrey championship match. And they have only show Lancashire twice. A final week match against the team that won the title in it, and the other an early season one, when Sky always show the reigning champion, when they were the reigning champion.

But with the prospect of having to show Yorkshire this year they will definitely avoid that. Always Surrey and Lancashire, never Yorkshire. It is a conspiracy. Sky will do anything they can to avoid showing a Yorkshire match, but they sure love showing Surrey and Lancashire.

SS1 Mon, May 17, 2010 Durham vs Kent
SS1 Mon, Sep 13, 2010 Nottinghamshire vs Lancashire
SS1 Tue, May 10, 2011 Sussex vs Nottinghamshire
SS1 Mon, Sep 12, 2011 Hampshire vs Warwickshire
SS1 Wed, May 9, 2012 Sussex vs Lancashire
SS1 Tue, Sep 11, 2012 Derbyshire vs Hampshire [D2]
SS1 Thu, Apr 25, 2013 Somerset vs Warkwickshire
SS2 Sun, May 4, 2014 Durham vs Yorkshire
SS2 Tue, Sep 9, 2014 Nottinghamshire vs Yorkshire
SS2 Tue, Sep 8, 2015 Nottinghamshire vs Yorkshire
SS2 Sun, May 1, 2016 Nottinghamshire vs Yorkshire
Neil_Harris
04-09-2016
A like to an interview with Giles Clarke who is adamant the game would have died without sky

https://twitter.com/theanalyst/statu...68824124448768
joshua_martin
04-09-2016
Originally Posted by mavreela:
“Lloyd also tweeted "I don't know about contracts, schedules, other live sports at time ,personnel availability etc"

Certainly not confident one will be shown now, given all the cuts and that it will be lowly rated. But personally I am not going to read anything into him saying there will be no country championship match until it does not happen.

The late season match is never scheduled until the week before as they wait to see which will be the most meaningful to show based on the title race. And we already knew they are not required to show two matches because of the years in which they only aired one.

But as Lloyd does not work on those games there is no reason why he would know what Sky's plans were. And he has been clear before that he just does his job and does not know about such things.



Sure. I mean I only have the schedule since 2010 and in that time they have never aired a Surrey championship match. And they have only show Lancashire twice. A final week match against the team that won the title in it, and the other an early season one, when Sky always show the reigning champion, when they were the reigning champion.

But with the prospect of having to show Yorkshire this year they will definitely avoid that. Always Surrey and Lancashire, never Yorkshire. It is a conspiracy. Sky will do anything they can to avoid showing a Yorkshire match, but they sure love showing Surrey and Lancashire.

SS1 Mon, May 17, 2010 Durham vs Kent
SS1 Mon, Sep 13, 2010 Nottinghamshire vs Lancashire
SS1 Tue, May 10, 2011 Sussex vs Nottinghamshire
SS1 Mon, Sep 12, 2011 Hampshire vs Warwickshire
SS1 Wed, May 9, 2012 Sussex vs Lancashire
SS1 Tue, Sep 11, 2012 Derbyshire vs Hampshire [D2]
SS1 Thu, Apr 25, 2013 Somerset vs Warkwickshire
SS2 Sun, May 4, 2014 Durham vs Yorkshire
SS2 Tue, Sep 9, 2014 Nottinghamshire vs Yorkshire
SS2 Tue, Sep 8, 2015 Nottinghamshire vs Yorkshire
SS2 Sun, May 1, 2016 Nottinghamshire vs Yorkshire”

last year it was Yorkshire vs Hampshire and sep 2014 it was middelsex vs Lancashire
mavreela
05-09-2016
Originally Posted by joshua_martin:
“last year it was Yorkshire vs Hampshire and sep 2014 it was middelsex vs Lancashire”

Sorry, last year's match was from the Rose Bowl. The 2014 match had somehow become repeated in the list for 2015.

But in 2014 it was definitely from Trent Bridge, do you mean one of the other years? Sky dropped planned coverage of the club T20 finals day in order to show it. It was the match in which Yorkshire won the Championship but Andrew Gale was controversially not allowed to lift the trophy.

Incidentally, to the original point, apparently Sky did show a Surrey vs Lancashire Championship match in 2007. Lancashire then went into the final round as favourites to win the title, but lost heavily to Surrey.
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