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Sky Sports Cricket Coverage 2016
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jazzydrury3
05-09-2016
Sky seem to be gong for commentators pundits, who can be put on more than one job.

Last Wednesday you had Dominic Cork involved in Deadline Day, David Fulton has appeared on SSNHQ.

Nasser Hussain and Michael Atherton, have both appeared on SSNHQ in the past.

In there cost cutting, I think Sky are getting commentators, who are more willing to fill more than one role.
jazzydrury3
05-09-2016
I think in the next couple of years, we will see a big turn around in Skys Main Comms team, probably there biggest since the turn of the millennium.

David Gower, Ian Botham, Bumble, and Michael Holding, I feel will go, Be sad to see Bumble go but he isn't getting any younger.

But then you would have to find 4 possibly to join in with Nasser Hussain, Michael Atherton etc.

Can see Ian Ward taking over from David Gower. But then you get Rob Key, Dominic Cork, Mark Butcher maybe.

Nice enough guys, but it seems the next bunch of Comms for Sky, wont be so well known outside of the UK
atg
05-09-2016
Originally Posted by mavreela:
“Incidentally, to the original point, apparently Sky did show a Surrey vs Lancashire Championship match in 2007. Lancashire then went into the final round as favourites to win the title, but lost heavily to Surrey.”

Was that the year when they needed to chase 480something to win the title, but fell about 50 short?
howard h
05-09-2016
Originally Posted by atg:
“Was that the year when they needed to chase 480something to win the title, but fell about 50 short?”

Thanks for reminding me

To be fair, Surrey declared, otherwise Lancs wouldn't have even had that glimmer. But we were still up with the clock until Cork wafted across the line and I think was bowled. Stupid boy.

EDIT 2007 http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Sc...07/107812.html

We lost by 24 runs, and were hammered in our first inns, Surrey could have followed on.
arsenalsri
05-09-2016
I would be surprised to see any of the sky commentators being used by the host broadcasters on the India trip. The reason being, the host broadcaster - Star Sports - just does that broadcasting. The pictures are produced by BCCI themselves and they appoint the commentators under the India cricket banner. Star only does the wrap around shows etc. I don't see Nas, Athers, or Botham working for the BCCI. If I remember from past they have used Matthew Hoggard, Dermot Reeve etc.

Wonder if it will be another off tube series this time around.
atg
05-09-2016
Originally Posted by howard h:
“Thanks for reminding me

To be fair, Surrey declared, otherwise Lancs wouldn't have even had that glimmer. But we were still up with the clock until Cork wafted across the line and I think was bowled. Stupid boy.

EDIT 2007 http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Sc...07/107812.html

We lost by 24 runs, and were hammered in our first inns, Surrey could have followed on.”

Yes, Durham just missed out too, and I thought it would have been tough on Sussex if they were denied by Surrey's actions, although it was a very tough ask and probably a genuine declaration they would have done in normal circumstances.
Neil_Harris
05-09-2016
On the subject of commentators.
Looks like we'll be hearing KP on BT this winter...

http://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/crick...cid=spartanntp
The Wanderer
05-09-2016
Originally Posted by arsenalsri:
“I would be surprised to see any of the sky commentators being used by the host broadcasters on the India trip. The reason being, the host broadcaster - Star Sports - just does that broadcasting. The pictures are produced by BCCI themselves and they appoint the commentators under the India cricket banner. Star only does the wrap around shows etc. I don't see Nas, Athers, or Botham working for the BCCI. If I remember from past they have used Matthew Hoggard, Dermot Reeve etc.

Wonder if it will be another off tube series this time around.”

Sky may just even use the BCCI feed this time around. Last time around they wanted to do their own on site commentary but were asked for more money so did it all from Osterley. But they just used the Supersport commentary for South Africa last winter and Sky are trying to reduce costs
Bhaveshgor
05-09-2016
Originally Posted by arsenalsri:
“I would be surprised to see any of the sky commentators being used by the host broadcasters on the India trip. The reason being, the host broadcaster - Star Sports - just does that broadcasting. The pictures are produced by BCCI themselves and they appoint the commentators under the India cricket banner. Star only does the wrap around shows etc. I don't see Nas, Athers, or Botham working for the BCCI. If I remember from past they have used Matthew Hoggard, Dermot Reeve etc.

Wonder if it will be another off tube series this time around.”

if they are available then BCCI would use them.
Sky would want a few of their voices in the broadcast as well and BCCI.TV would want some English commentators so they would reach an compromise with Sky loaning some of their commentator to BCCI.TV for a few weeks just like they did last winter in SA and the UAE.

Should be remembered bumble did the IPL couple of years ago so BCCI TV producing the pictures should make no difference.
arsenalsri
06-09-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“if they are available then BCCI would use them.
Sky would want a few of their voices in the broadcast as well and BCCI.TV would want some English commentators so they would reach an compromise with Sky loaning some of their commentator to BCCI.TV for a few weeks just like they did last winter in SA and the UAE.

Should be remembered bumble did the IPL couple of years ago so BCCI TV producing the pictures should make no difference.”

BCCI might want them, but would Nas and Athers want to? You are right about Bumble, also Mark Butcher was given plenty of access to the ground ,players etc during the last 2 IPL.
mimik1uk
06-09-2016
the BCCI give fairly strict guidelines i believe on subjects that cannot be discussed, paul collingwood was on record about this after working for them a couple of years ago, i cant see botham or atherton agreeing to not discuss things like DRS if there was a dodgy umpiring decision for example, and the BCCI wont allow that
lincsat
06-09-2016
I believe Dom Cork was doing BBCI comms last time England toured when Sky comms were off tube, so he obviously doesn't have a problem with any limitations.
Bhaveshgor
06-09-2016
Originally Posted by arsenalsri:
“BCCI might want them, but would Nas and Athers want to? You are right about Bumble, also Mark Butcher was given plenty of access to the ground ,players etc during the last 2 IPL.”

Nas and Ather don't actually have any problem they commentated for Star sports when india toured england in 2011 and 2014.
could imagine both would go if offered the role by Sky and BCCI.
Bhaveshgor
06-09-2016
Originally Posted by lincsat:
“I believe Dom Cork was doing BBCI comms last time England toured when Sky comms were off tube, so he obviously doesn't have a problem with any limitations.”

nope last time around it was only Dermot Reeve, Collingwood, Alan wilkin working for BCCI.
But cork did to the IPL when Sentanta had the cricket right.

Of all the commentators that sky have can only really see Botham/Bumble having any problem with it and even then he might go if offered money to go, Although Bumble already stated he won't go India, which actually increases the chances of Athers and Nasser going.

Can't see Athers or Nasser having any problems with it.

End of the day can't see Sky broadcasting 5 Test matches in india with none of the A team commentating so Sky themselves might Tell the commentators go to india and commentate and the commentators have no choice but to actually commentate for BCCI.TV

If Sky wants the commentators in india and working for the host broadcaster then the commentators really have no choice but to actually go and commentate.
Ather is guaranteed to go with his correspondent duties in India and 2 others are likely to join him.
Bhaveshgor
06-09-2016
Pretty much the same thing with the Bangladesh tour, highly doubt Rob Key and Nick knight were given a choice to commentate in the series after the big names were not picked or didn't wanna go.
Although in this case Rob Key or Nick knight would probably wanted to go anyway since Rob key is essentially getting a promotion and Nick Knight doing his first test since 2011.
Li4m
06-09-2016
I guess it depends on whether they're on Sky contracts and what those contracts say. I suspect they're all able to opt out of overseas tours if they want to, but some of them may feel that the opportunity, if presented, is too good to turn down.
jazzydrury3
06-09-2016
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“Pretty much the same thing with the Bangladesh tour, highly doubt Rob Key and Nick knight were given a choice to commentate in the series after the big names were not picked or didn't wanna go.
Although in this case Rob Key or Nick knight would probably wanted to go anyway since Rob key is essentially getting a promotion and Nick Knight doing his first test since 2011.”

Pleased Rob Key is going to Bangladesh, he took no time in fitting into the commentary box.
Neil_Harris
08-09-2016
More rumblings regarding the future of domestic cricket..

Nick Hoult seems pretty sure about the value of TV rights and some FTA Coverage

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2...-to-new-eight/
Eric Tristow
08-09-2016
So is it saying that counties will continue playing Championship matches without any players selected for this city tournament?
ed1747
09-09-2016
Given that the new tournament is slated to begin in 2018, I don't really understand how the ECB are able to sell the TV rights to the tournament on the open market.

Don't Sky have exclusive rights to all English cricket until the end of 2019?
howard h
09-09-2016
Originally Posted by ed1747:
“Given that the new tournament is slated to begin in 2018, I don't really understand how the ECB are able to sell the TV rights to the tournament on the open market.

Don't Sky have exclusive rights to all English cricket until the end of 2019?”

Who do they think's going to go down and watch? Lancashire at Old Trafford....Blackpool...Southport etc I'll be first in the queue.
Manchester - or some corporate mumbo-jumbo of a name (Manc Muppets??) I won't even watch on FTA TV.
But that's just me, but reading all the cricket forums I haven't yet found anyone who thinks it's great. Maybe I'm in the wrong places, perhaps I should go to Liverpool and flog some Manc Muppets scarves and tickets. Or Huddersfield for Leeds Lobsters.
Eric Tristow
09-09-2016
Originally Posted by howard h:
“Who do they think's going to go down and watch? Lancashire at Old Trafford....Blackpool...Southport etc I'll be first in the queue.
Manchester - or some corporate mumbo-jumbo of a name (Manc Muppets??) I won't even watch on FTA TV.
But that's just me, but reading all the cricket forums I haven't yet found anyone who thinks it's great. Maybe I'm in the wrong places, perhaps I should go to Liverpool and flog some Manc Muppets scarves and tickets. Or Huddersfield for Leeds Lobsters.”

No I haven't found anybody in favour either but I'm sure they will come out of the woodwork. Just like when the current 20/20 started, crowds appear from nowhere because it is something new. I think there is a large cricket crowd who just go for the experience/night out and will not be bothered by the team name.
howard h
09-09-2016
Originally Posted by Eric Tristow:
“No I haven't found anybody in favour either but I'm sure they will come out of the woodwork. Just like when the current 20/20 started, crowds appear from nowhere because it is something new. I think there is a large cricket crowd who just go for the experience/night out and will not be bothered by the team name.”

...You mean a drinks fest?!!

20/20 isn't new anymore, so that won't be the pull - the only difference I can see is some games might be on FTA TV. Probably on ITV4 with a sub-standard picture or the BBC red button (ditto).

Hmmm, seriously, what FTA station will want these games? S4C might want Cardiff-based games I suppose, but there could be the option for BT to buy the lot and put some games on their showcase channel. Or Sky/Pick.
LOSG
09-09-2016
Originally Posted by Eric Tristow:
“No I haven't found anybody in favour either but I'm sure they will come out of the woodwork. Just like when the current 20/20 started, crowds appear from nowhere because it is something new. I think there is a large cricket crowd who just go for the experience/night out and will not be bothered by the team name.”

Basically this. Surrey are often cited as the "success case" of the current T20 guise, but anyone who has been will know the oval on those nights is just full of city workers on a social night out. Paying no attention to the cricket at all.

Fantastic for Surreys coffers - but it is hardly "growing the game". I doubt 80% would know the wider context of the match in front of them or have any interest in watching one at home on the tele.
mlt11
09-09-2016
Interesting graph of ratings for England v Pakistan T20.

Overnight rating for programme as a whole was 411k but this is far more revealing:

- Match started with 400k but then grew throughout England innings reaching peak just under 700k

- Audience then plummets to just over 400k when Bake Off starts which also coincides with between innings

- Audience then climbs again but Pakistan innings only peaks at 600k due to easy Pakistan win (and audience levels off rather than peaking at end of match)

- Cricket audience is way above Murray US Open QF audience throughout the cricket

See link - and click on graph in top tweet to see in detail:

https://twitter.com/SB_Intelligence
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