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Old 03-12-2015, 11:56
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You saw what the editors wanted you to see.
They can only edit the material they are given by the candidates themselves, though. The other candidates got to know the unedited version of Selina and they didn't seem that keen on her, either.
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Old 03-12-2015, 11:58
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No, seriously, someone please tell me what lies were told about her in the press..
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Old 03-12-2015, 11:59
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Was Scott wearing women's jeggings on YF
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Old 03-12-2015, 12:32
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No, seriously, someone please tell me what lies were told about her in the press..
IIRC Selina was referred to a a pole dancer or something?
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Old 03-12-2015, 12:33
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I know a former candidate. They were very tightlipped about the process but did let it slip that the production team and PR team had favorite candidates.
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Old 03-12-2015, 12:35
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Ghastly woman with no redeeming features whatsoever.
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Old 03-12-2015, 12:36
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I read a story on Selina and now I feel sorry for her Dammit.
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Old 03-12-2015, 12:45
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All the Selina haters out there should remember that this is a heavily edited TV show and the production company can edit it to show candidates in whatever way they chose. For whatever reason, Selina fell out with the producers and they have been able to edit the show to show her in a unfavourable light since then. The fact that she had already announced that she would not do Your Fired clearly influenced this and the decision to have hardly any reference to her on Your Fired (no comments on her from Sugar, no asking the panel or the audience if they thought she should have been fired) clearly indicates their negative attitude.
Heavily edited? So Selina did nothing to warrant any criticism?!

Before the epwhere she was fired was even shown, Selina was gobbing off to all and sundry about her time on The Apprentice. Selina was not very pleasant on The Apprentice. She attacked Charleine. She was not a team player. The reactions and comments of other candidates have confirmed this. If 'for whatever reason Selina fell out with the producers,' it would seem to be her own doing.

Apparently, after it was announced that Scott just upped and left, Selena invited the press to get in touch. Someone on another thread posted a link to Selina's own version of You're Fired on YouTube. Selina said weeks ago that she had broken links with the prog. She's clearly a manipulative user who wants more than her 15 minutes of fame and then some. She's also after a payout from the press for her story.

As a result of her machinations and manipulations, Selena is no longer part of the prog. So why should the bods at The Apprentice/You're Fired give her any more air time? As far as the prog is concerned she's gone and that's it.

Ghastly creature. It takes a special kind of 'talent' to make Charleine seem reasonable!

Charleine's generally been good on the tasks but she just done far too much bellowing. Let's see if she quietened down after her nemesis left!
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Old 03-12-2015, 12:57
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One odious cow, good riddance, mind you do have to have some sympathy for someone who has to go through life with her sad, deluded, negative attitude. One horrible person.
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Old 03-12-2015, 13:07
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From the point of view of YF, they were lucky that Scott quit and agreed to come on. What would they have done otherwise? Has there ever been an episode of YF without a candidate?
I'm sure that they have plans in case this happens. They'd probably put a shop dummy in her chair with a blonde wig and red lipstick, then poke fun at it.
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Old 03-12-2015, 13:52
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Was Scott wearing women's jeggings on YF
I noticed those, they were hideous.
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Old 03-12-2015, 15:01
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Indeed. This series' Louisa Zizzman.
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Old 03-12-2015, 15:42
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I'm sure that they have plans in case this happens. They'd probably put a shop dummy in her chair with a blonde wig and red lipstick, then poke fun at it.
Quite.

I actually think it would have served her right if they had just gone ahead with it, showing all the bad bits, letting the panelists let rip at her without he being able to defend herself.

If you ask me, far from being petty in pretty much ignoring her, she's got off lightly.
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Old 03-12-2015, 16:12
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Luisa zissman thinks the BBC will try and sue her
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Old 03-12-2015, 16:27
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Indeed. This series' Louisa Zizzman.
Along with Vana (or however you spell it). She's just as devious and manipulative, but she needs her allies behind her. She reminds me of the neighourhood bully who is all mouth when she's got her lackies with her, but becomes quiet as a mouse when she's on her own. As the groups been dwindling I've noticed she's quietened down a bit, but she often has a sneer on her face. To be fair she did surprise me last night when she went "I'm so proud of us" because she recognised they worked as a team and not independent.

I think Selina has dug her own grave with the media to be honest. At first I did like her, then the shine wore off and I realised she wasn't able to comprehend she could mess stuff up. Then, as the candidates were whittled down and she got more screen time the bitchiness started to show.

She'll probably turn up on CBB and a few other things like that and then fizzle out and only be contacted by the media when they need to scrape the bottom of the barrel. I doubt she'll be able to compete in the Hopkins area either, as there's only room for one there, and I can't see Hopkins being too happy if she had a contender for most hated woman in Britain. She can't even get a photoshoot with lads mags as they've all disappeared.
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Old 03-12-2015, 16:37
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I see YF as a way for the candidates to give a reality check to what is shown in the programme and for them to have a laugh about it. Scott left and he still went on the show and came across well. The fact Selina didnt go on just proves what we see in the actual show is exactly what shes like, she had a chance to change perception of her by going on YF but she didnt.
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Old 04-12-2015, 15:08
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Heavily edited? So Selina did nothing to warrant any criticism?!
Yes, very heavily edited! Each show has about half an hour dedicated to the tasks. The rest is preamble and the boardroom. Each task last two days, so that's fifiteen minutes per day divided between two teams. So we see 7 1/2 minutes per team per day. Imagine if Channel Five announced that next years test match highlights would be limited to 7 1/2 minutes per day. How much can we see of any individual candidate in order to make any kind of reasoned judgement on them? I have never met any of the candidates and it is highly unlikely that I ever will, but I would certainly not try to make judgements about them based on a tiny piece of manipulated footage each week.
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Old 04-12-2015, 15:28
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Are they editing Selina's behaviour outside of the show too? She comes across a complete nightmare there aswell.

Without that it would be easier to defend her, but adding it all up gives the impression the editors didn't exactly have their work cut out for them to portray her negatively.
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Old 04-12-2015, 17:02
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Yes, very heavily edited! Each show has about half an hour dedicated to the tasks. The rest is preamble and the boardroom. Each task last two days, so that's fifiteen minutes per day divided between two teams. So we see 7 1/2 minutes per team per day. Imagine if Channel Five announced that next years test match highlights would be limited to 7 1/2 minutes per day. How much can we see of any individual candidate in order to make any kind of reasoned judgement on them? I have never met any of the candidates and it is highly unlikely that I ever will, but I would certainly not try to make judgements about them based on a tiny piece of manipulated footage each week.
So you'd prefer a 48 hour show per week instead?

If they have to fit the programme into an hour then they have no choice but to edit as they do. Personally, I think they have the balance right.

The fact that it's edited isn't a bad thing. The issue is whether the edit causes the candidates to be misrepresented. That's an entirely different thing and I haven't seen anything to make me think so.
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Old 04-12-2015, 17:10
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So you'd prefer a 48 hour show per week instead?

If they have to fit the programme into an hour then they have no choice but to edit as they do. Personally, I think they have the balance right.

The fact that it's edited isn't a bad thing. The issue is whether the edit causes the candidates to be misrepresented. That's an entirely different thing and I haven't seen anything to make me think so.
well not 48 hours but I would quite like a longer version of the show on BBC 3 or 4 or something along the lines of 'Have I Got More News For You'
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Old 04-12-2015, 20:13
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Yes, very heavily edited! Each show has about half an hour dedicated to the tasks. The rest is preamble and the boardroom. Each task last two days, so that's fifiteen minutes per day divided between two teams. So we see 7 1/2 minutes per team per day. Imagine if Channel Five announced that next years test match highlights would be limited to 7 1/2 minutes per day. How much can we see of any individual candidate in order to make any kind of reasoned judgement on them? I have never met any of the candidates and it is highly unlikely that I ever will, but I would certainly not try to make judgements about them based on a tiny piece of manipulated footage each week.


Everyone knows it's edited or else we'd be watching for days. In your post you say that the programme makers heavily edited the programme because Selina had said she wasn't appearing in YF. You've simply used the 'heavily edited' argument to try and excuse Selina's poor behaviour.


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All the Selina haters out there should remember that this is a heavily edited TV show and the production company can edit it to show candidates in whatever way they chose. For whatever reason, Selina fell out with the producers and they have been able to edit the show to show her in a unfavourable light since then. The fact that she had already announced that she would not do Your Fired clearly influenced this and the decision to have hardly any reference to her on Your Fired (no comments on her from Sugar, no asking the panel or the audience if they thought she should have been fired) clearly indicates their negative attitude.

No one made Selina behave the way she did.

She blamed Joseph for not getting the properties they wanted to sell. So what did Selina do to convince them? How was that heavily edited?

She was plain nasty when she told Charleine that she wasn't suitable to sell high-end properties. How was that heavily edited?

How many did Selina sell? NONE. Zero. Zilch. How was that heavily edited?

Every other person made sales except for Selina. Selina tried to muscle in on Joseph's last clients. How was that heavily edited?

On the prog Joseph said he'd never seen what she was really like before. He did not like her. How was that heavily edited?

You say TA/YF showed their negative attitude towards her behaviour towards her. Remember this was filmed some time ago and way before she got fired. The prog was bound to show the reasons why on the week she got fired. And speaking of negative attitudes, you call critics of Selina - haters. Isn't that negative and also hypocritical?

I saw an old copy of The Sun today and there was Selina telling everyone that The Apprentice is a fix. It might be. It might not be. Selina certainly didn't give any reasons or evidence for making such a claim. Mind you she had been photographed for this snippet whilst posing in her underwear. So she's making unsubstantiated comments and allowing herself to be photographed in her flimsies. Nice. She's the one with an agenda which reaches far beyond TA/YF. So whatever the edit, I have no sympathy whatsoever with Selina.
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Old 04-12-2015, 20:22
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I see YF as a way for the candidates to give a reality check to what is shown in the programme and for them to have a laugh about it. Scott left and he still went on the show and came across well. The fact Selina didnt go on just proves what we see in the actual show is exactly what shes like, she had a chance to change perception of her by going on YF but she didnt.
Selina has clearly got her own agenda.
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Old 04-12-2015, 20:28
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People in this thread are literally calling those of us who find Selina to be a pain in the a*** "haters"... good lord.

As for the whole "it's edited so that's not actually what she's like at all" that's a very, very naiive assumption considering her real life antics following on from the show. Again, as Joseph said, Selina is manipulative, it seems like some of you fell for her spell.
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Old 04-12-2015, 20:42
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Charlie Brooker did a whole section on editing in reality shows using Aisleyne (ex Big Brother) to help illustrate his points

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBwepkVurCI

However - Selina CLEARLY did several pieces to camera where she spouted narcissistic garbage about how it was everyone's fault except hers that she did not sell anything.

This was like the Alan Partridge scene where he is chatting to the host of the radio show after his, and he deliberately swears on air, then blames the other host.
"It is ten seconds after seven, so technically I am a guest on your show, and you have failed to control me"

Methinks the "complaints about editing" were that she knew she had done the "to camera" pieces and that in hindsight, she might come across as a bit of a moron.
Therefore on the tactic of "get your retaliation in first", she goes whinging to the tabloids about how she has been edited to look bad, when it was her that made herself look bad in the first place.
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Old 04-12-2015, 21:54
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Charlie Brooker did a whole section on editing in reality shows using Aisleyne (ex Big Brother) to help illustrate his points

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBwepkVurCI

However - Selina CLEARLY did several pieces to camera where she spouted narcissistic garbage about how it was everyone's fault except hers that she did not sell anything.

This was like the Alan Partridge scene where he is chatting to the host of the radio show after his, and he deliberately swears on air, then blames the other host.
"It is ten seconds after seven, so technically I am a guest on your show, and you have failed to control me"

Methinks the "complaints about editing" were that she knew she had done the "to camera" pieces and that in hindsight, she might come across as a bit of a moron.
Therefore on the tactic of "get your retaliation in first", she goes whinging to the tabloids about how she has been edited to look bad, when it was her that made herself look bad in the first place.
Good post. BIB this is very similar to the situation when it was Joseph's fault that Selina didn't sell due to lack of instruction, despite him also apparently being weaker than her.

I accept that the show is heavily edited and that they somewhat misrepresent people to make them caricatures (as the Brooker bit shows) but not only are some of Selina's comments awful regardless of context or bits cut out, several of the other candidates said telling comments. Tie this in with her behaviour after the show and it is clear she is not a very nice person, and more than a little deluded. Also she seems incapable of accepting her own faults. You could argue that these traits suggest she is a troubled person. Whether that is true or not it is not a bad thing to still have some empathy for her. But to say that it is all just the edit is surely BS (as other posters have said). Maybe it is best to feel a bit sorry for her but that doesn't change that her behaviour and attitude stinks.
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