Originally Posted by rebecca87:
“From standing so close to Aliona.
Oh, you meant his dancing. I see.”
“From standing so close to Aliona.
Oh, you meant his dancing. I see.”
all the below the belt jokes are to be censored
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Why Is Jay So Stiff ?
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Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“For a bloke who did the whole 'boys on tour' with a band he's terribly buttoned up and victorian .
I imagine him crying and clutching his pearls in horror while watching himself endlessly messing up his steps on replay at home . He needs to lighten up .”
“For a bloke who did the whole 'boys on tour' with a band he's terribly buttoned up and victorian .
I imagine him crying and clutching his pearls in horror while watching himself endlessly messing up his steps on replay at home . He needs to lighten up .”
" Buttoned up and Victorian " seems to be a good summary Heatherbell, when I watch his dancing style its almost as if he is wearing heavily starched clothing, I almost feel as though I want to run on stage with some WD40 to lubricate his joints, perhaps that is the problem, all the boy band stage performing touring may have left his joints a little worse for wear.
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“Why Is Jay So Stiff ?
Watching Jays dancing technique closely on Saturday there is no denying that his intensive pre show training has helped him to become a technically very proficient dancer, but one can't help but notice a certain stiff plank like rigidness to his dancing technique?”
“Why Is Jay So Stiff ?
Watching Jays dancing technique closely on Saturday there is no denying that his intensive pre show training has helped him to become a technically very proficient dancer, but one can't help but notice a certain stiff plank like rigidness to his dancing technique?”
Well Terry, he was dancing a Tango, so that stiffness and attack is what's required of him in that dance - the judges were wowed by it as were most people. If you look at the latest training video, you will see he is exactly the opposite for the Rumba - graceful, fluid and no sign of stiffness at all.
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Just goes to show though . Even with 6 years training he is still stiff as a poker . His teachers must be crying in their cocoa watching him .”
“Just goes to show though . Even with 6 years training he is still stiff as a poker . His teachers must be crying in their cocoa watching him .”
'Stiff as a poker?'
It's strange Craig hasn't thought to critique that. I wonder why? It's maybe because he isn't. You can bet you're bottom dollar Craig would have mentioned it before the quarter finals if he thought so. I suppose when you're blinded by prejudice and dislike for a particular person, it's much easier to fool yourself and just make up lots of criticisms.
Jays dancing is epic! Whether you like it, or not. It's really very ungracious to suggest otherwise.
Looks like the esteemed Matthew Bourne got it all wrong. Thanks Heatherbell, for keeping us right. Jay is stiff as a big fat poker.
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Naughty you .
He is stiff , always has been , but he looks like he needs mummying and has learned to smile and that's the important thing .”
“Naughty you
.He is stiff , always has been , but he looks like he needs mummying and has learned to smile and that's the important thing .”
You and Terry a match made in Heather ,
do share lot share similar opinions
this year
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“" Buttoned up and Victorian " seems to be a good summary Heatherbell, when I watch his dancing style its almost as if he is wearing heavily starched clothing, I almost feel as though I want to run on stage with some WD40 to lubricate his joints, perhaps that is the problem, all the boy band stage performing touring may have left his joints a little worse for wear.”
“" Buttoned up and Victorian " seems to be a good summary Heatherbell, when I watch his dancing style its almost as if he is wearing heavily starched clothing, I almost feel as though I want to run on stage with some WD40 to lubricate his joints, perhaps that is the problem, all the boy band stage performing touring may have left his joints a little worse for wear.”
I have frequently agreed with your posts in the past, but this is just utter nonsense. Both you and Heatherbell appear to be allowing you dislike of Jay to distort your judgement. I may not be over fond of some of the celebrities but I recognise that ALL of them are very good dancers indeed.
I'm fully aware he is the forum favourite , but I don't care , I don't like him because I find him dull and his excessive training makes him a ringer of epic proportions . Yet even with all those years of training he still messes up his routines .But he looks teary eyed and does the lip thing and fairy dust descends to cover his errors . I don't call him names in the manner kellie gets belittled by being called 'titzilla' because I can voice my dislike without resorting to derogatory names .
It's quite simple , for someone so intensely previously trained and now spending 9 hours a day with aliona doing whatever they do he is not delivering the goods . Looking pretty and getting a new hair do just won't cut it at this point .
He's got by on fan base , but Anita is easily better than him and kellie and georgia are most certainly equal and often better , but they want a male in the final so jay will be there and the hard grafting girls will have to suffer yet another cut in their numbers to make that happen . Such a shame .
It's quite simple , for someone so intensely previously trained and now spending 9 hours a day with aliona doing whatever they do he is not delivering the goods . Looking pretty and getting a new hair do just won't cut it at this point .
He's got by on fan base , but Anita is easily better than him and kellie and georgia are most certainly equal and often better , but they want a male in the final so jay will be there and the hard grafting girls will have to suffer yet another cut in their numbers to make that happen . Such a shame .
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“" Buttoned up and Victorian " seems to be a good summary Heatherbell, when I watch his dancing style its almost as if he is wearing heavily starched clothing, I almost feel as though I want to run on stage with some WD40 to lubricate his joints, perhaps that is the problem, all the boy band stage performing touring may have left his joints a little worse for wear.”
“" Buttoned up and Victorian " seems to be a good summary Heatherbell, when I watch his dancing style its almost as if he is wearing heavily starched clothing, I almost feel as though I want to run on stage with some WD40 to lubricate his joints, perhaps that is the problem, all the boy band stage performing touring may have left his joints a little worse for wear.”
This did make me LOL.
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“I'm fully aware he is the forum favourite , but I don't care , I don't like him because I find him dull and his excessive training makes him a ringer of epic proportions . Yet even with all those years of training he still messes up his routines .But he looks teary eyed and does the lip thing and fairy dust descends to cover his errors . I don't call him names in the manner kellie gets belittled by being called 'titzilla' because I can voice my dislike without resorting to derogatory names .
It's quite simple , for someone so intensely previously trained and now spending 9 hours a day with aliona doing whatever they do he is not delivering the goods . Looking pretty and getting a new hair do just won't cut it at this point .
He's got by on fan base , but Anita is easily better than him and kellie and georgia are most certainly equal and often better , but they want a male in the final so jay will be there and the hard grafting girls will have to suffer yet another cut in their numbers to make that happen . Such a shame .”
“I'm fully aware he is the forum favourite , but I don't care , I don't like him because I find him dull and his excessive training makes him a ringer of epic proportions . Yet even with all those years of training he still messes up his routines .But he looks teary eyed and does the lip thing and fairy dust descends to cover his errors . I don't call him names in the manner kellie gets belittled by being called 'titzilla' because I can voice my dislike without resorting to derogatory names .
It's quite simple , for someone so intensely previously trained and now spending 9 hours a day with aliona doing whatever they do he is not delivering the goods . Looking pretty and getting a new hair do just won't cut it at this point .
He's got by on fan base , but Anita is easily better than him and kellie and georgia are most certainly equal and often better , but they want a male in the final so jay will be there and the hard grafting girls will have to suffer yet another cut in their numbers to make that happen . Such a shame .”
He's not just a 'forum favourite'. Check out the Strictly Facebook page. Last weeks Tango has 17k likes....so far
I'm convinced you must be watching someone else. Everything you've said ^^^ sounds like a different Jay to the one I've been watching.
Strange indeed!
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“Learning to smile is a good start Heatherbell, it might distract some from Jays somewhat wooden dancing technique, but more are starting to notice this the nearer to the final of Strictly we get.”
“Learning to smile is a good start Heatherbell, it might distract some from Jays somewhat wooden dancing technique, but more are starting to notice this the nearer to the final of Strictly we get.”
That's it
You've made me so concerned about him not making the final that I just have to send more votes his way.......
Originally Posted by rebecca87:
“From standing so close to Aliona.
Oh, you meant his dancing. I see.”
“From standing so close to Aliona.
Oh, you meant his dancing. I see.”
Originally Posted by Hmmbop:
“He's not just a 'forum favourite'. Check out the Strictly Facebook page. Last weeks Tango has 17k likes....so far
I'm convinced you must be watching someone else. Everything you've said ^^^ sounds like a different Jay to the one I've been watching.
Strange indeed!”
“He's not just a 'forum favourite'. Check out the Strictly Facebook page. Last weeks Tango has 17k likes....so far
I'm convinced you must be watching someone else. Everything you've said ^^^ sounds like a different Jay to the one I've been watching.
Strange indeed!”
Agree...very strange.
Originally Posted by roseblue1:
“Agree...very strange.”
“Agree...very strange.”
Yes. I mean, I like Anita and she's doing her best, which is great, but to say she's better than Jay is just silly. All subjective of course, but for me.... It's silly talk!
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“I'm fully aware he is the forum favourite , but I don't care , I don't like him because I find him dull and his excessive training makes him a ringer of epic proportions . Yet even with all those years of training he still messes up his routines .But he looks teary eyed and does the lip thing and fairy dust descends to cover his errors . I don't call him names in the manner kellie gets belittled by being called 'titzilla' because I can voice my dislike without resorting to derogatory names .
It's quite simple , for someone so intensely previously trained and now spending 9 hours a day with aliona doing whatever they do he is not delivering the goods . Looking pretty and getting a new hair do just won't cut it at this point .
He's got by on fan base , but Anita is easily better than him and kellie and georgia are most certainly equal and often better , but they want a male in the final so jay will be there and the hard grafting girls will have to suffer yet another cut in their numbers to make that happen . Such a shame .”
“I'm fully aware he is the forum favourite , but I don't care , I don't like him because I find him dull and his excessive training makes him a ringer of epic proportions . Yet even with all those years of training he still messes up his routines .But he looks teary eyed and does the lip thing and fairy dust descends to cover his errors . I don't call him names in the manner kellie gets belittled by being called 'titzilla' because I can voice my dislike without resorting to derogatory names .
It's quite simple , for someone so intensely previously trained and now spending 9 hours a day with aliona doing whatever they do he is not delivering the goods . Looking pretty and getting a new hair do just won't cut it at this point .
He's got by on fan base , but Anita is easily better than him and kellie and georgia are most certainly equal and often better , but they want a male in the final so jay will be there and the hard grafting girls will have to suffer yet another cut in their numbers to make that happen . Such a shame .”
HAHA
Anita is a much better performer than Jay, but he is a much better dancer. Which is odd seeing as he was in a boyband?
My two favourites.
My two favourites.
I see in this thread, Jay has been accused of being too stiff in Tango - he actually was toned rather than stiff which Aliona had obviously worked on. In actual fact I would have liked to see him with MORE toning, especially though his core, upper back and frame.
He did a great job.
He did a great job.
You are right to bring this up in his Rumba week Terry. Most male celebs find it especially hard. Stiffness isn't going to look good in that dance. I'm a bit worried that he might finish up at the bottom this week.
Originally Posted by Fatima502:
“You are right to bring this up in his Rumba week Terry. Most male celebs find it especially hard. Stiffness isn't going to look good in that dance. I'm a bit worried that he might finish up at the bottom this week.”
“You are right to bring this up in his Rumba week Terry. Most male celebs find it especially hard. Stiffness isn't going to look good in that dance. I'm a bit worried that he might finish up at the bottom this week.”
I think his waftiness will suit the Rumba. Helen's Paso seems like it might be pretty poor.
Originally Posted by j4Rose:
“I think his waftiness will suit the Rumba. Helen's Paso seems like it might be pretty poor.”
“I think his waftiness will suit the Rumba. Helen's Paso seems like it might be pretty poor.”
I'm expecting a contemporary style Rumba to play to Jays strengths but with a number of recognised Rumba groups included within the routine. Will be fab I'm sure.
I am hoping that Helen will surprise a few people, I think the Paso will be very expressive and dramatic, with good strong shapes, hopefully not frantic like some.
Originally Posted by Jennifer_F:
“I'm expecting a contemporary style Rumba to play to Jays strengths but with a number of recognised Rumba groups included within the routine. Will be fab I'm sure.
I am hoping that Helen will surprise a few people, I think the Paso will be very expressive and dramatic, with good strong shapes, hopefully not frantic like some.”
“I'm expecting a contemporary style Rumba to play to Jays strengths but with a number of recognised Rumba groups included within the routine. Will be fab I'm sure.
I am hoping that Helen will surprise a few people, I think the Paso will be very expressive and dramatic, with good strong shapes, hopefully not frantic like some.”
I hope Helen does surprise me. Her movements could be too elegant for a Paso and she needs to work on her facial expressions.
Originally Posted by j4Rose:
“I hope Helen does surprise me. Her movements could be too elegant for a Paso and she needs to work on her facial expressions.”
“I hope Helen does surprise me. Her movements could be too elegant for a Paso and she needs to work on her facial expressions.”
*nods*
I think she overcompensates with aggressive facial expressions because she struggles to have powerful movements in her body.
No hate, by the way. I love Helen's dancing.
Originally Posted by Nina_Blake:
“*nods*
I think she overcompensates with aggressive facial expressions because she struggles to have powerful movements in her body.
No hate, by the way. I love Helen's dancing.”
“*nods*
I think she overcompensates with aggressive facial expressions because she struggles to have powerful movements in her body.
No hate, by the way. I love Helen's dancing.”
It does not help that she has a naturally childlike face anyway, so trying to look fierce looks like an infant faking a tantrum.
Originally Posted by SeasideLady:
“Well Terry, he was dancing a Tango, so that stiffness and attack is what's required of him in that dance - the judges were wowed by it as were most people. If you look at the latest training video, you will see he is exactly the opposite for the Rumba - graceful, fluid and no sign of stiffness at all.”
“Well Terry, he was dancing a Tango, so that stiffness and attack is what's required of him in that dance - the judges were wowed by it as were most people. If you look at the latest training video, you will see he is exactly the opposite for the Rumba - graceful, fluid and no sign of stiffness at all.”
I have to admit I was not wowed at all by Jays dancing on Saturday night SeasideLady, which is saying something for me as I do normally arouse quite easily, I just found that Jays stiff robotic dancing style and frozen facial expression was slightly off putting and very reminiscent of that melting policeman in that Arnold Swarzneger film, he could be fluid in a slightly different way, perhaps this Saturday Jays dancing will improve a bit, we shall have to wait and see.
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“ I don't call him names in the manner kellie gets belittled by being called 'titzilla' because I can voice my dislike without resorting to derogatory names”
“ I don't call him names in the manner kellie gets belittled by being called 'titzilla' because I can voice my dislike without resorting to derogatory names”
I'd rather be called Titzilla (like Kellie) than be insulted like Tristan in the following paragraph.
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“I think he's creepy . He was hovering in the background on the clauditorium on saturday with that stupid grin plastered on his face, like The Joker , grinning at nothing while everyone else was focused on what claudia was saying . He always looks drunk to me . Not saying he is ( or he couldn't dance) , but he just looks goofy and up to no good . He's very immature and not good in interviews . The usa can keep him as far as I'm concerned . Much prefer gio .”
“I think he's creepy . He was hovering in the background on the clauditorium on saturday with that stupid grin plastered on his face, like The Joker , grinning at nothing while everyone else was focused on what claudia was saying . He always looks drunk to me . Not saying he is ( or he couldn't dance) , but he just looks goofy and up to no good . He's very immature and not good in interviews . The usa can keep him as far as I'm concerned . Much prefer gio .”
Is that not derogatory?
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