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Does this mean an end to split programming for sport and religious programing?
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Does this mean an end to split programming for sport and religious programing?
http://www.rte.ie/radio1/static/2014...54-stay-tuned/ |
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RTE Radio 1 on 252kHz closes down on 27 October 2014.
http://www.rte.ie/radio1/static/2014...54-stay-tuned/ |
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Does this mean an end to split programming for sport and religious programing?
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No, that's on the digital channel RTE Radio 1 Extra
http://www.rte.ie/radio1/static/2014...54-stay-tuned/ |
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Going by Ex Pat's post there's going to be a lot of annoyed people who can no longer get the LW opt outs, because of patchy DAB coverage.
Hardly a great number are going to get DAB to keep listening? The optouts are also on the internet and the Saorview, the Irish equivalent to Freeview, which is also in Northern Ireland. Quote:
Another punch to the head for long wave - not long until the knock out now.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news...where-25683656 Quote:
The BBC says that although it is planning to end its use of long-wave radio at some time in the future, there is no specific date for the closure of its Radio 4 transmissions on 198 kHz,
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Any chance the BBC could buy the 252 rig, move it to droitwich, retune it to 198 and keep R4 lw going for many more years ?
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It would improve the transmission quality!
I daresay this closure, and the swiftness of it, is being watched with some interest. |
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Any chance the BBC could buy the 252 rig, move it to droitwich, retune it to 198 and keep R4 lw going for many more years ?
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I knew RTE 252 wouldn't last forever but because the tansmitter is pretty new, i expected it to last untill about the end of the decade.
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I knew RTE 252 wouldn't last forever but because the tansmitter is pretty new, i expected it to last untill about the end of the decade.
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25 years isn't that young. But it wasn't the age of the equipment that has prompted this (at least as far as we are aware). The stated reasons are Running Costs (very high) vs. Listenership (low).
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They installed an new transmitter back in March 2007.
Maybe if retuned to MW might still have a good secondhand value for an AM, DRM enabled transmitter in India or Africa? |
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I don't think too many in the republic will be bothered by this as Radio One has mostly decent reception on FM. However in many parts of the north it can be difficult to get a good FM signal, as well as parts of Cork and Kerry. However LW is almost unusable these days in households with a lot more electrical items causing interference.
Having said that would it not have been wise to give 3 months notice rather than 5 weeks? The few people that do rely on the service are the same people that would need the extra notice. |
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I don't think too many in the republic will be bothered by this as Radio One has mostly decent reception on FM. However in many parts of the north it can be difficult to get a good FM signal, as well as parts of Cork and Kerry. However LW is almost unusable these days in households with a lot more electrical items causing interference.
Having said that would it not have been wise to give 3 months notice rather than 5 weeks? The few people that do rely on the service are the same people that would need the extra notice. |
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As MikeBr said if not for the economy 7 system contract on 198 the notice on R4 LW would have been much shorter than approx 10 years (3 years ago with a date still to be confirmed).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radio4/po...s_to_bbc_radio |
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I don't think too many in the republic will be bothered by this as Radio One has mostly decent reception on FM. However in many parts of the north it can be difficult to get a good FM signal, as well as parts of Cork and Kerry. However LW is almost unusable these days in households with a lot more electrical items causing interference.
Having said that would it not have been wise to give 3 months notice rather than 5 weeks? The few people that do rely on the service are the same people that would need the extra notice. In the UK the BBC should start making it clear that 198LW and Radio 4's MW outlets are on borrowed time - even if that's starting subtlety - "Radio 4 on LW and MW now joins Radio 5 Live Sports Extra for live test match coverage", listings in the Radio Times as "As Radio 5 Live Sports Extra" etc. (i.e. R4LW only having Daily Service and Today/Yesterday in Parliament as it's "own" programming - the rest being another stations) |
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There comes a point where it's cheaper to give all the remaining listeners a simple DAB radio than continuing to pay the running costs of the MW or LW transmissions.
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There comes a point where it's cheaper to give all the remaining listeners a simple DAB radio than continuing to pay the running costs of the MW or LW transmissions.
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I would have thought that absolute
radio AM would have gone long before RTE 252. |
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I would have thought that absolute
radio AM would have gone long before RTE 252. I would hate to think the electric bill must be ? |
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There comes a point where it's cheaper to give all the remaining listeners a simple DAB radio than continuing to pay the running costs of the MW or LW transmissions.
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There comes a point where it's cheaper to give all the remaining listeners a simple DAB radio than continuing to pay the running costs of the MW or LW transmissions.
![]() In sparsly populated remote areas with difficult terrain low powered AM might remain the answer. BBC Hereford & Worcester fills in its FM-DAB gaps in Worcestershire with a 20 watt AM transmitter. |
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I notice RTE mention digital radio when referring to listeners in Northern Ireland who cannot receive RTE Radio 1 on FM. Wonder if they're planning to put a limited service on the local DAB mux in NI, given there's loads of free space on it now, or maybe remove the null to the North from Clermont Cairn ?
Or maybe they're just referring to Sky/Freesat or internet radio ![]() To be honest, I don't know why they ever closed 567 kHz. down in preference to long wave. I wonder if this will find it's way to the NI assembly ? It did when 567 kHz was closed, prompting RTE to move it's Clermont Cairn RM frequency from 95.2 to 87.8 (Due to interference from Carnmoney Hill). |
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So that will be people in the Republic who can't get it on FM and don't have Saorview, Saorsat, Sky, Internet or Freesat and are using a platform that didn't exist until a decade ago - how many people are really in that situation? In the north there would be fewer covered by some of those platforms (i.e. Saorview/FM) but the others are widely available. The 5 weeks notice is plenty of time to get one of those sorted isn't it?
In the UK the BBC should start making it clear that 198LW and Radio 4's MW outlets are on borrowed time - even if that's starting subtlety - "Radio 4 on LW and MW now joins Radio 5 Live Sports Extra for live test match coverage", listings in the Radio Times as "As Radio 5 Live Sports Extra" etc. (i.e. R4LW only having Daily Service and Today/Yesterday in Parliament as it's "own" programming - the rest being another stations) As for the suggestion that you give everyone a DAB radio, that would be great if you actually had DAB transmitters. Only 56% of the population is covered, and 56% is a very generous figure. |
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As I said not that many would be affected
Apart from those listeners in Northern Ireland. Reception of RTE Radio on FM is impossible in parts of East/South Belfast and East and north Antrim where there are strong nationalist communities. This is the reason the closure of 567 kHz was raised by the NI assembly by the SDLP and Sinn Fein. |
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