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I notice RTE mention digital radio when referring to listeners in Northern Ireland who cannot receive RTE Radio 1 on FM. Wonder if they're planning to put a limited service on the local DAB mux in NI, given there's loads of free space on it now, or maybe remove the null to the North from Clermont Cairn?...
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#252 |
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RTE would have to get a UK broadcasting licence but that apart, why not? The cost of putting at least Radio 1 on the NI mux could easily be met from the LW savings. It's odd that none of the UK broadcasters are there on DAB in Eire, while RTE is on Belfast DTT and all the major UK channels except Channel 5 are on UPC cable in Dublin.
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Why would they need a licence?
Surely the licence is only required by the mux operator. |
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It's odd that none of the UK broadcasters are there on DAB in Eire, while RTE is on Belfast DTT and all the major UK channels except Channel 5 are on UPC cable in Dublin.
If I recall the MOU did mention something about UK stations being available in the ROI on DTT.
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How expensive would it be to put RTE Radio One, R. NaG, Radio 2 and Lyric FM on the NI local DAB mux in DAB+ ?
That would at least solve part of the problem for Northern listeners and it wouldn't take up that much space either. I'm sure the PSB Freeview muxes could accommodate another couple of radio stations which would provide reception for the rest of NI. Alternatively, they could put an FM transmitter on Divis. |
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RTE would have to get a UK broadcasting licence but that apart, why not? The cost of putting at least Radio 1 on the NI mux could easily be met from the LW savings. It's odd that none of the UK broadcasters are there on DAB in Eire, while RTE is on Belfast DTT and all the major UK channels except Channel 5 are on UPC cable in Dublin.
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If I recall the MOU did mention something about UK stations being available in the ROI on DTT.
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As they are already on the NIMux wouldn't they already have one? Unless there is a MOU allowing RTÉ to broadcast across the Island?
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UK stations are not carried on the Irish dtt, Saorview.
Also UK based Amazing Radio and UCB are on the Irish DAB tests. It could be RTE already have a Ofcom licence for Freeview, Freesat and Sky? But may not be able to use Irish licence fee payer's funds for the N Ireland DAB? |
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Mary Curtis has left RTE to head up UTV Ireland which will rebroadcast ITV programmes in the Irish republic in 2015.
Also UK based Amazing Radio and UCB are on the Irish DAB tests. It could be RTE already have a Ofcom licence for Freeview, Freesat and Sky? But may not be able to use Irish licence fee payer's funds for the N Ireland DAB? Perhaps all of us here east, northeast and southeast of the Irish sea will finally share with the folk of Northern Ireland the delights of Irish republic broadcasting at long last. Well apart from that all too brief period Tara aired in the UK which was still nowhere near the full Monty that those in Northern Ireland were already able to freely access. I know I'm taking TV on a radio thread but it just highlights the unfairness that Northern Irelad and Irish republic can watch and listen to whatever is broadcast by the main terrestrial broadcasters on both main islands on standard TV and radio sets yet east of the Irish sea restricted to the main UK based terrestrial channels. |
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Mary Curtis has left RTE to head up UTV Ireland which will rebroadcast ITV programmes in the Irish republic in 2015.
Also UK based Amazing Radio and UCB are on the Irish DAB tests. It could be RTE already have a Ofcom licence for Freeview, Freesat and Sky? But may not be able to use Irish licence fee payer's funds for the N Ireland DAB? Not entirely sure but if those stations you say are on the dab trials, then I guess it was on the independent trial from Total Broadcast. Last I heard the license was up. |
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But why the Irish republic all this time been able to freely access all the BBC TV channels on Sky Ireland, Irish Freeview and Freesat Ireland as part of their services costing £0.00 extra for TV viewers there, yet all RTE's TV stations are only available in Northern Ireland.
Perhaps all of us here east, northeast and southeast of the Irish sea will finally share with the folk of Northern Ireland the delights of Irish republic broadcasting at long last. Well apart from that all too brief period Tara aired in the UK which was still nowhere near the full Monty that those in Northern Ireland were already able to freely access. I know I'm taking TV on a radio thread but it just highlights the unfairness that Northern Irelad and Irish republic can watch and listen to whatever is broadcast by the main terrestrial broadcasters on both main islands on standard TV and radio sets yet east of the Irish sea restricted to the main UK based terrestrial channels. |
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yet east of the Irish sea restricted to the main UK based terrestrial channels.
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While it's true that BBC is freely available in one way or another across the Republic, that doesn't mean that the BBC doesn't get royalties from the Republic of Ireland both from Cable and from SKY. (appox 20m a Year) BBC Northern Ireland. UTV and Ch4 have also received funding from the BAI sound and Vision Fund in the past so it might be a token sum but some of the Irish Licence fee does go towards UK broadcasts.
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UK stations are not carried on the Irish dtt, Saorview.
Yes, I know, but it was mentioned in the MOU when they announced the NI mux. In any case, ROI viewers can receive a majority of the DTT TV and radio stations broadcast in the UK on Freesat. Maybe that's why they haven't bothered. |
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or Irish freesat
But they can on UK Freesat. I would imagine UK Freesat is very popular with people in the ROI who don't want to pay Sky. |
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But they can on UK Freesat.
I would imagine UK Freesat is very popular with people in the ROI who don't want to pay Sky. Presume this also means outside ROI? Listeners to RTE radio in nothern Ireland or the rest of UK will now be using Sky, Freesat or internet to listen, the only use for longwave is in the car, so not worth keeping the transmitter for these very small number of listeners? Must be a simular very low number of listeners in Germany as they get ready to switch off AM in October? |
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UTV Ireland will be a new Irish station, not a British station as such.
Not entirely sure but if those stations you say are on the dab trials, then I guess it was on the independent trial from Total Broadcast. Last I heard the license was up. http://www.dbdb.ie/q2-2014-report/ Quote:
On the programming side of the trial, we are happy to welcome on-air Zenith Classic Rock, who will become a more permanent feature on DAB since acquiring their BAI licence earlier this year. To make room for them we sadly say goodbye to All 80s. The station was launched a number of years ago by our own director Dusty Rhodes. However, to avoid any thoughts of conflict of interest, the station has been sold to new owners allowing Dusty to concentrate 100% on the DAB trial and turning it into a full national service. Might mean the Zenith Classic Rock stereo AM broadcasts are no longer needed?
The outlook for the remainder of 2014 is good. Now Cork is on-air we have time to continue with more experiments |
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It's a shame really. The only stations I listen to are on AM/DAB.
Talk sport, Planet Rock, Total rock, Radio 5 Live. At the end of the day. If any of them where on FM I'd choose FM over DAB. As we all know standard DAB in 64kbps or 80kbps mono is pretty awful, better than AM, but not a patch on FM. |
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Long wave is hampered now as most car radios and cheaper radios don't have it. The BBC are planning to slowly let Radio 4 long wave die, as apart from Test Match Special, few listeners bother. AM in general now seems to be used mainly by BBC local radio, talk stations and golden oldies stations( similar to America).
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From mediumwave.info Quote:
NETHERLANDS
The Dutch firm NMS Telecom has pulled down the AM broadcasttower at Heinenoord near Rotterdam in the Netherlands on 23th of September. Just a year ago the radiostation Radio 10 Gold left this transmitter facility. The station then went from AM 828 to a FM network Since then the 828 was silence. The frequency was for hire. The Dutch organisation for regulation of radio frequencies, AT - Agentschap Telecom, has stopped the licence for the use of the of the AM 282 kHz. At Heinenoord a 20 kW transmitter was available. So it looks like that again a AM transmitter site has left the airwaves for ever. Also the smal Dutch AM frequencies 1035, 1395 and 1485 are taken out of licence use by the Dutch AT. |
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From DRMNA.info Quote:
REE leaves shortwave (and DRM) Well, another one bites the dust! They think everyone that cares already has satellite equipment. "Radio Exterior de Spain suppress shortwave broadcasting in the next 15 October." "Therefore Exterior modernizes its radio emissions with better sound quality from zero hours, peninsular Spanish time, from the next day 15, offering its programming via satellite, Internet and DTT." So apparently one "modernizes radio emissions" by leaving radio? Quote:
Ydun's Medium Wave Info reports that Deutschland Radio will close all of the Longwave stations at Donebach (153 kHz), Sehlendorf - Oranienburg (177 kHz) and Aholming (207 kHz) on 31 December 2014.
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From DRMNA.info
At least they have given their listeners more notice than the Spanish, Russians or Irish gave? |
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Regarding REE, I have picked up the station before on shortwave, but never found a stream that broadcasts the English programme as it goes out on the radio. I doubt REE's English programmes are among the most popular on shortwave.
REE is not a station I'll miss. The Polish Radio Extternal Serviice, DW, Radio Netherlands and Radio Sweden to name a few are bigger losses to the platform. |
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