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The 'AM death watch' thread...
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MikeBr
25-08-2015
Originally Posted by swb1964:
“Are there really no AM broadcasts left in Germany?”

The ones that are still on the air will be closing by the end of the year or in the case of some low power AFN ones by October next year.

Scroll down to the post by Manager July 6 21:21 in this German forum, closure dates in red.
http://radioforum.foren.mysnip.de/re...148722,page=80

This is all the AM broadcasters in Germany so the shortwave sites are listed. Europe Number One 183 is not on the air. The reason it's not listed as closed is that there were some DRM tests fof Radio Andernach, the German armed forces station.but if that goes on the air it will be a private service for the armed forces only. They'll get sets that can access it.

Austria and Switzerland have had no AM broadcasts for some years and Luxembourg will soon join them so end of German on mediumwave.
swb1964
25-08-2015
In the 90s I heard more German than French on Medium Wave.
swb1964
25-08-2015
On the BBC website today there is quite an interesting piece about an AM station in New Orleans and its role during Hurricane Katrina. I can't post links from my phone but I'm sure someone will oblige.
Resonance
25-08-2015
Originally Posted by swb1964:
“On the BBC website today there is quite an interesting piece about an AM station in New Orleans and its role during Hurricane Katrina. I can't post links from my phone but I'm sure someone will oblige.”

This the one?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/...7-ffdd9d5272f2
swb1964
25-08-2015
Aye. It's worth five minutes of your time...
hanssolo
25-08-2015
Originally Posted by swb1964:
“On the BBC website today there is quite an interesting piece about an AM station in New Orleans and its role during Hurricane Katrina. I can't post links from my phone but I'm sure someone will oblige.”

But it's more about having a bunker studio, rather than AM, as it was also on other FM and shortwave transmitters
Quote:
“Thanks to an “unprecedented” partnership with their competitors, WWL's content was now being heard across the dial on almost all FM, AM and shortwave stations in the New Orleans area.”

MikeBr
26-08-2015
Radio Maria is looking at other sites to broadcast on 675 from.

"We're still trying to do to keep the medium wave broadcasts of Radio Maria in the air. This will certainly not a medium wave transmitter with nationwide coverage to be, but rather at regional or local level."

English translation of Dutch article posted yesterday.
https://translate.google.co.uk/trans...-text=&act=url
FmBandScan
26-08-2015
Originally Posted by MikeBr:
“Radio Maria is looking at other sites to broadcast on 675 from.

"We're still trying to do to keep the medium wave broadcasts of Radio Maria in the air. This will certainly not a medium wave transmitter with nationwide coverage to be, but rather at regional or local level."

English translation of Dutch article posted yesterday.
https://translate.google.co.uk/trans...-text=&act=url”

They should just take over 747 when Rdaio 5 leaves, 1008 isn't closing so I doubt the tower will be going anywhere soon!
MikeBr
26-08-2015
Originally Posted by FmBandScan:
“They should just take over 747 when Rdaio 5 leaves, 1008 isn't closing so I doubt the tower will be going anywhere soon!”

They said when they announced the closure in July that they'd found no affordable alternatives. I'd have thought that would have included 747 as it was known it was closing at the time.
Brightonelectri
26-08-2015
Originally Posted by MikeBr:
“They said when they announced the closure in July that they'd found no affordable alternatives. I'd have thought that would have included 747 as it was known it was closing at the time.”

People in the Netherlands will still be able to listen to BBC on 198 LF and also BBC 5
on 693khz in the western and northern part of the country. the French service of
Belgian radio on 621 can be heard over most of the southern part of the Netherlands
The "official" Netherlands stations appear to be closing down on AM at the end of AUgust
so all that will be left are some very low powered ones.
When I visit the Netherlands it seems almost every home is connected to cable which
gives a large variety of TV and radio programmes.
There are some unofficial radio broadcasts, mainly of Dutch music in the off-band
section 1602 to 1700khz but broadcasts seem quite sporadic.
PDMB
27-08-2015
Originally Posted by Brightonelectri:
“The "official" Netherlands stations appear to be closing down on AM at the end of AUgust
so all that will be left are some very low powered ones.
There are some unofficial radio broadcasts, mainly of Dutch music in the off-band
section 1602 to 1700khz but broadcasts seem quite sporadic.”

At- http://www.mediumwave.info/news.html

There is a list of stations which will still be broadcasting on MW/ kHz from the Netherlands after next week.

I would have thought Radio 538 on 891 kHz was fairly powerful and Radio Paradijs on 1584 is transmitting at 150W.
FmBandScan
27-08-2015
Originally Posted by PDMB:
“At- http://www.mediumwave.info/news.html

There is a list of stations which will still be broadcasting on MW/ kHz from the Netherlands after next week.

I would have thought Radio 538 on 891 kHz was fairly powerful and Radio Paradijs on 1584 is transmitting at 150W.”

Yes, 538 is audible on normal radios to around Amsterdam, then after that it goes to anorak levels but you can hear it right in the North!

And BBC 5 Live 693 is audible throughout the whole of the Netherlands!
hanssolo
27-08-2015
Originally Posted by FmBandScan:
“Yes, 538 is audible on normal radios to around Amsterdam, then after that it goes to anorak levels but you can hear it right in the North!”

Looking at the web 891 kHz was just to cover the Maastricht area as Radio 538 could not get FM coverage near the Belgium border, But seems Radio 538 has an arrangement with an FM station in Belgium to cover Maastricht. So 891khz may not be needed any more, especially with DAB+ coverage now in the area. 891 was 20kw, but might be 2kw now?
FmBandScan
27-08-2015
Originally Posted by hanssolo:
“Looking at the web 891 kHz was just to cover the Maastricht area as Radio 538 could not get FM coverage near the Belgium border, But seems Radio 538 has an arrangement with an FM station in Belgium to cover Maastricht. So 891khz may not be needed any more, especially with DAB+ coverage now in the area. 891 was 20kw, but might be 2kw now?”

Yes but the Dutch AT stopped that as it was against the rules, so now the only way to hear 538 is via DAB or 891! I am not sure about power but I know it's not 20kw.
DigMorris
27-08-2015
Originally Posted by MikeBr:
“They said when they announced the closure in July that they'd found no affordable alternatives. I'd have thought that would have included 747 as it was known it was closing at the time.”

Groot Nieuws Radio announced today that they're going to stay on AM until 2017. NPO Radio 5 and Radio Maria will still cease their AM broadcasts at the end of 31 August.

This article mainly deals with their announcement they will be on DAB+ from the 1st of September but it also mentions that they have decided to stay on AM for a bit longer: Groot Nieuws Radio blijft op de middengolf en start via DAB+ ("middengolf" means medium wave)
Anthony_UK
27-08-2015
I've been hearing occasional information trails on Absolute Radio 1215kHz about the closedown of the MW service at some stage in the near future;does anybody have anymore info on this?
ex pirat
28-08-2015
[quote=Anthony_UK;79398257]I've been hearing occasional information trails on Absolute Radio 1215kHz about the closedown of the MW service at some stage in the near future;does anybody have anymore info on this? [/QUOT


Absolute is going FM in the west Midlands in a week or so 105.2 ..
It got to be expensive beeing on AM as well as DAB nationally .
swb1964
28-08-2015
Originally Posted by Anthony_UK:
“I've been hearing occasional information trails on Absolute Radio 1215kHz about the closedown of the MW service at some stage in the near future;does anybody have anymore info on this? ”

Absolute were closing a transmitter near Reading not long ago. Not sure if it has already been done.

But the whole MW service? ? Are you sure?
MikeBr
28-08-2015
Originally Posted by ex pirat:
“ Absolute is going FM in the west Midlands in a week or so 105.2 ..
It got to be expensive beeing on AM as well as DAB nationally .”

Their webpage on the 105.2 frequency for West Midlands listeners says that they will still be on 1215 AM after September 7. The Reading transmitter closure was

http://absoluteradio.co.uk/midlands/

The Reading transmitter closure was due to the private owner of the land wanting the site back, it also affected Smooth Radio.
jimbo
29-08-2015
[quote=ex pirat;79404910]
Originally Posted by Anthony_UK:
“I've been hearing occasional information trails on Absolute Radio 1215kHz about the closedown of the MW service at some stage in the near future;does anybody have anymore info on this? [/QUOT


Absolute is going FM in the west Midlands in a week or so 105.2 ..
It got to be expensive beeing on AM as well as DAB nationally .”

Doubt if they can just close it like that. Remember that the old 247 metres network was a BBC network. They would need approval I assume to close it and then what would happen to the transmitters - ie the ones used for that service?

Has anyone caught the trailer and what does it actually say? Thanks.
Hybrid tellies
29-08-2015
I have been listening to Absolute on 1215 for the last few days. I have not heard any mention of closing down all or part of their AM network.
hanssolo
30-08-2015
Originally Posted by MikeBr:
“Their webpage on the 105.2 frequency for West Midlands listeners says that they will still be on 1215 AM after September 7. The Reading transmitter closure was

http://absoluteradio.co.uk/midlands/

The Reading transmitter closure was due to the private owner of the land wanting the site back, it also affected Smooth Radio.”

Last Rajar
http://radiotoday.co.uk/2015/08/raja...ave-dab-radio/
Quote:
“Absolute Radio boasting 79% of its listening to digital platforms.”

Not sure if this includes all Absolute stations and London FM as Rajar reports AM and FM together as analogue?
But in Reading and Birmingham the numbers, and percentage, listening to AM will decrease, making it easier towards switching off the whole AM network.
MikeBr
30-08-2015
Originally Posted by hanssolo:
“Last Rajar
http://radiotoday.co.uk/2015/08/raja...ave-dab-radio/

Not sure if this includes all Absolute stations and London FM as Rajar reports AM and FM together as analogue? .”

As they are from RAJAR they'll be the Absolute Radio Network figures so these stations
http://www.rajar.co.uk/listening/gro...ation_id=32091
lundavra
30-08-2015
I was near a high power LW and MW transmitter site last week and looked around the local heritage centre. Whilst there I heard someone asking what were the masts near the village. She was told that it was the old BBC transmitter but it had closed down and the masts were no longer used. Perhaps an indication of how irrelevant LW and MW is to many people.
DigMorris
30-08-2015
According to this report NPO Radio 5 has changed its output on AM 747 ahead of the shutdown tomorrow night.

The regular programming continues online and on DAB+ but the AM output has been replaced by music and a regular announcement that the AM broadcast will cease shortly, pointing people towards digital alternatives.

Peculiarly the same message is not broadcast on AM 1251 which is used for the south of the country, despite this closing down too.
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