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Could someone please confirm which AM stations still transmit via Saffron Green?
Is it still just LBC News 1152 and Gold (Greater London)? |
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#102 |
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Could someone please confirm which AM stations still transmit via Saffron Green?
Is it still just LBC News 1152 and Gold (Greater London)? Yes LBC 1152, and whatever the old Capital Radio 1548 service carries now. |
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Sorry folks for posting in this thread as i could not locate the other BBC thread concerning AM switch off's. I just wanted to share this link printed in Friday's The Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...ium-wave-radio. There is now going to be a re-think about the future process of MW shutdowns. Apologies if this has already been posted. Last edited by shadowplay : 11-11-2012 at 11:07. Reason: Spelling errors. |
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#104 |
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Yeah it looks as though there are real issues in Liverpool. It would be interesting to know whether the listeners who wrote in were in Liverpool itself or outside the TSA
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Sorry folks for posting in this thread as i could not locate the other BBC thread concerning AM switch off's. I just wanted to share this link printed in Friday's The Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...ium-wave-radio. There is now going to be a re-think about the future process of MW shutdowns. Apologies if this has already been posted. |
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Derailed for 600 listeners? Hmm. I wonder which would be cheaper - providing DAB/Internet sets for those 600 or keeping the old transmitter on air?
It was also said that from about 1980 onwards, it would have been cheaper to give away 625 line TV sets to the remaining 405 line viewers, than keep the two 405 line networks running. |
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Derailed for 600 listeners? Hmm. I wonder which would be cheaper - providing DAB/Internet sets for those 600 or keeping the old transmitter on air?
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There is now going to be a re-think about the future process of MW shutdowns.
Apologies if this has already been posted. An internet radio should work fine outside the TSA except for the football commentaries. |
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Not much use if they live outside the TSA though is it, kev ?
Plus if it really was relevant the internet radio suggestion would cover those people. |
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Hence the internet radio - and if they live outside the TSA why is it relevant what they think?
Just finding this whole process interesting from an anoraky point of view.. |
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Don't know why the BBC persists with the Asian Network on AM,most people i know listen to it on DAB.
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Radio Wales staying on AM is a good move,many ex pats in England tuned in!
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Radio Wales staying on AM is a good move,many ex pats in England tuned in!
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Not much use if they live outside the TSA though is it, kev ?
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Then tough. Out of area listening should only be a 'nice to have'. Fine if requires no extra exditure to achieve,. c.f. satellite or internet delivery, but to keep a transmitter running purely to extend coverage beyond the TSA is not acceptable.
There may be other reasons to keep Radio Wales on AM, just wondering where people would draw the line? |
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Would you apply the same logic to Radio Wales, Mark?
I speak as someone in the 1970s who went to great effort to receive a clean FM stereo signal from Capital Radio 50 miles from their transmitter. I'd loved the IBA to have increased the ERP to 50kW to make life easier, but equally understood why they couldn't. Ironic that today it's dead easy to receive Capital in noise free stereo anywhere in Europe, but who'd bother ! |
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Radio Wales only has 80% coverage on FM in the Principality, due to lack of available frequencies.
The AM service won't be switched off until DAB coverage equates to at least the Radio Cymru FM coverage (94.8%). |
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The A M signals of Radio Wales, Five Live, Talksport, Gold and Absolute here in Cardiff are fine and very listenable. They work well at night as well as day time. Turning them off when many people still listen to them is madness.
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Hence the internet radio - and if they live outside the TSA why is it relevant what they think?
Of course, there is the argument that they should be paying for the subscription service anyway. It might even be technically illegal to listen to sports commentary outside the TSA. I wouldn't be surprised if it was, given our hardline copyright laws, anyway. |
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The A M signals of Radio Wales, Five Live, Talksport, Gold and Absolute here in Cardiff are fine and very listenable. They work well at night as well as day time. Turning them off when many people still listen to them is madness.
Daytime Five Live and TalkSport are just about audible under the mush - at night time Five Live goes all foreign and TalkSport vanishes. During the day Gold and Absolute are fine, but at night start to vanish! Yes there may be the odd place where they are all okay - but one would expect the likes of Cardiff to get just as good, if not better, reception on FM and DAB. The places that rely on MW are few and far between and these trials are to judge exactly where those places are. I wonder if the odd case will see a low power FM filler to come on air as a cheaper option? |
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Hmm...
Daytime Five Live and TalkSport are just about audible under the mush - at night time Five Live goes all foreign and TalkSport vanishes. During the day Gold and Absolute are fine, but at night start to vanish! ? Hopeless. The only clean, strong AM signals we've had here was 647 from Daventry, and 908 from Brookmans Pk up until Nov 78, and of course 200/198 Droitwich.. |
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Here in North Hampshire, 1215 is unlistenable mush, and has been since the 1960s. 693 and 909 since Nov 78 are better, but still suffer terrible fading, particularly on the move as do 1089 and 1053.
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1260 was added as a 500w fill in at Guildford to overcome the mush problem of the 1215 transmitters interfering with each other for Virgin, now Absolute, radio, and 1260 should be fine in NE Hampshire, but might get too weak in NW Hampshire?
I suspect another reason why ILR did so well in the 70s, was that it was a nice powerful steady AM signal within the TSAs, compared to a dreadful mess on '247m'. |
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990 from Berlin seems to be the next casualty lined up. 3rd September
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I would love to see 648Khz used for high powered use as it would offer excellant coverage from one of the higher powered transmitters.
Like Radio Caroline |
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