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This is taken from mediumwave news:
TWR Europe has stopped using 1395 kHz Albania relay and the following replacing transmissions have been added via other sites: Polish 2045-2115 mtwtf.s 1467 kHz Roumoules, France 25 degrees Hungarian 2000-2045 Mon-Fri & 2000-2025 Sat/Sun 1548 kHz Grigoriopol, Moldova Romanian 2030-2100 daily 999 kHz Grigoriopol, Moldova. So it's more of a frequency change if anything, and it frees up the Dutch LPAM stations from having to go off air in the evening. I read the 1395 TX was in very bad condition. TWRs English evening programmes to UK stopped on 1467 a while back and programmes are now on Freeview and internet. The German branch ERF replaced AM with DAB+. TWR might be a possibility for 162 but as it is mostly listener supported with few supporters in France unlikely. |
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Just looking at the transmitter building at Allouis in the photos linked to earlier, it seems to be far larger than normal.
I can't believe that a building of that size was required just for the transmitters, especially as it appears to be around 5 stories high. Does anyone know what else was housed there? |
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I think it was just the way it was commseng. If you look at the (rather small) pics for Limoges
http://tvignaud.pagesperso-orange.fr.../87limoges.htm that I submitted you'll see it's on the same scale. Of course as you know transmitters took up a lot more room then (ie pre war), but knowing the French there would also have been a couple of three-star Michelin chefs to accommodate, along with a restaurant staff of at least twenty, along with at least fifty administrators. National stereo-typing, on se regale..... |
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The first page of a 1947 article saying what is on each floor is here:
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/...4/?reload=true |
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Thanks.
I note that it also housed some short wave equipment as well at one point. Maybe I'm just used to the transmitter buildings with one floor, but this is quite different. I do like the idea of Michelin stared chefs to sort out the catering for the engineers. It's all gone downhill since then! |
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I note that it also housed some short wave equipment as well at one point. Maybe I'm just used to the transmitter buildings with one floor, but this is quite different. I do like the idea of Michelin stared chefs to sort out the catering for the engineers. It's all gone downhill since then! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALLISS Allouis used to transmit France Inter to Europe on 3965 and 6175. This page refers to the OC2 building being "decommissioned and sold by TDF" (currently used by a moving company) http://tvignaud.pagesperso-orange.fr...s-issoudun.htm so I'm wondering if there was another building up there with similar design/ floor usage for the longwave transmitter? |
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I note that it also housed some short wave equipment as well at one point. Maybe I'm just used to the transmitter buildings with one floor, but this is quite different. I do like the idea of Michelin stared chefs to sort out the catering for the engineers. It's all gone downhill since then! |
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There's some detailed information on the time signal service here which google translates quite well
http://tvignaud.pagesperso-orange.fr...ouis-heure.htm There's many more pages on the history of Allouis linked from here however the way it's set up on Chrome for translate to work on individual pages you have to click, copy link address and then paste it in another tab. http://tvignaud.pagesperso-orange.fr...fr-allouis.htm and some photos http://tvignaud.pagesperso-orange.fr.../18allouis.htm Looking at these pages via google translate The Allouis Longwave 162 site with the 2 story building was destroyed 1944, long wave moved to Strasburg at 20kw 1948. In 1952 the new multistory OC2 building with high power LW and SW opened (still unclear whats on top floors and how it could now be decommissoned and used by a moving company?). In 1981 the 1 Megawatt LW transmitter installed (in OC1?). (Then after France Inter also rolled out on FM taking away LW listeners) 1997 SW removed. So the current LW transmitter will be 35 years old, most probably end of life, and will need to be replaced if a new station takes over or the time signal continues. |
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Thanks Mike.
Looking at these pages via google translate The Allouis Longwave 162 site with the 2 story building was destroyed 1944, long wave moved to Strasburg at 20kw 1948. In 1952 the new multistory OC2 building with high power LW and SW opened (still unclear whats on top floors and how it could now be decommissoned and used by a moving company?). In 1981 the 1 Megawatt LW transmitter installed (in OC1?). (Then after France Inter also rolled out on FM taking away LW listeners) 1997 SW removed. So the current LW transmitter will be 35 years old, most probably end of life, and will need to be replaced if a new station takes over or the time signal continues. http://tvignaud.pagesperso-orange.fr...uis-chrono.htm This 6200 relay of Paris Inter, as it was then called, is shown in my earliest WRTH in 1958. |
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