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Adele's 25 Sells 7 million Copies First Week WW
http://www.billboard.com/biz/article...rs-weigh-in-on Quote:
As the numbers trickle in -- international sales through the first week are in the 7 million range, a source says (Sony would not confirm any data) -- industry experts estimate that had 25 been available for streaming, it would have sold 300,000 to 500,000 fewer *copies. More than a sizable dent, but history already had been made without those sales.
Second week in the US is just over 1 million units, in France second week sales are 130k (first week was 170k).We're looking at 10 million WW in two weeks people. |
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Does it matter how many it sells?
Popularity is not an indication of quality. It just means lots of people are doing the same thing (i.e buying the same album), just in the same way lots of people went out and bought cabbage patch kids, or the da vinci code. Not knocking Adele or the album (not my thing, so I won't be buying it) but it doesn't really mean anything. |
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Does it matter how many it sells?
Popularity is not an indication of quality. It just means lots of people are doing the same thing (i.e buying the same album), just in the same way lots of people went out and bought cabbage patch kids, or the da vinci code. Not knocking Adele or the album (not my thing, so I won't be buying it) but it doesn't really mean anything. |
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it's interesting in many ways. The album is basically selling on the back of 21, which means people really liked 21 it wasn't just the thing to buy, like cabbage patch dolls. You can do that once you can't do it twice.
It's also interesting what it says about the industry, for years we've been told today's artists are struggling in a dying industry but could it be that today's artists are the reason it's a dying industry? there's no logical reason why if one artist can sell shedloads that others can't. But the really interesting time for Adele will be the next album. Now she's got this age trilogy out of the way, and has managed to follow up the kind of sales that can be a millstone round the neck, she should be free to do other styles of music. |
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it's interesting in many ways. The album is basically selling on the back of 21, which means people really liked 21 it wasn't just the thing to buy, like cabbage patch dolls. You can do that once you can't do it twice.
It's also interesting what it says about the industry, for years we've been told today's artists are struggling in a dying industry but could it be that today's artists are the reason it's a dying industry? there's no logical reason why if one artist can sell shedloads that others can't. But the really interesting time for Adele will be the next album. Now she's got this age trilogy out of the way, and has managed to follow up the kind of sales that can be a millstone round the neck, she should be free to do other styles of music. Actually the 'industry' has been overstating its bad health for a few yearsbut it was only really at the end of last year that sales looked like dropping. The scale of Adele's sales are just phenomenal at the moment and it makes many others look bad. The next album and its timing are interesting I would agree, C/W influences next time? |
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Does it matter how many it sells?
Popularity is not an indication of quality. It just means lots of people are doing the same thing (i.e buying the same album), just in the same way lots of people went out and bought cabbage patch kids, or the da vinci code. Not knocking Adele or the album (not my thing, so I won't be buying it) but it doesn't really mean anything. She's breaking records that I don't think, in a music industry that has seen sales plummet over the past couple of decades, many people (if any) thought could be broken. |
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The next album and its timing are interesting I would agree, C/W influences next time? 25 got one or two sniffy reviews, not because it's not a good listen in my view or the songs are poor, they're not and it is, but because reviews are made in the context of an artists trajectory. She wouldn't get away with another album in the same vein i don't think. Whether it's c/w or jazz or whatever i don't mind, she can sing anything - i'd just like to see her broaden out. And hopefully in a couple of years not 4
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It's not an indication of quality, although I do think the album is really quite good. I think it's important because nobody else anywhere is pulling these figures. The biggest worldwide first week sales stood at 3. something million for 12 years, the US first week sales record stood for 15 years, the Oasis record of fastest album to sell 1 million copies in the UK stood for 18 years.
She's breaking records that I don't think, in a music industry that has seen sales plummet over the past couple of decades, many people (if any) thought could be broken. |
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If the trajectory of the industry is downwards in terms of sales with the exception of Adele, can we expect a series of Adele clones appearing or is Adele a unique artist who can't be copied and not the saviour?
That was a line in an Irish article about the record companies jizzing and trying to find the next Adele. I totally agree with them. |
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If the trajectory of the industry is downwards in terms of sales with the exception of Adele, can we expect a series of Adele clones appearing or is Adele a unique artist who can't be copied and not the saviour?
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The new Adele will be nothing like Adele.
That was a line in an Irish article about the record companies jizzing and trying to find the next Adele. I totally agree with them. |
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wouldn't be my choice of direction but she's certainly got the voice for C/W. her two Raconteurs covers show her the direction she should go imo...rockier and rawer
25 got one or two sniffy reviews, not because it's not a good listen in my view or the songs are poor, they're not and it is, but because reviews are made in the context of an artists trajectory. She wouldn't get away with another album in the same vein i don't think. Whether it's c/w or jazz or whatever i don't mind, she can sing anything - i'd just like to see her broaden out. And hopefully in a couple of years not 4 ![]() |
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If the trajectory of the industry is downwards in terms of sales with the exception of Adele, can we expect a series of Adele clones appearing or is Adele a unique artist who can't be copied and not the saviour?
I think we will see Adele clones try to do it but I doubt many could. |
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The Raconteurs covers are two of my favorite songs (obviously by my screen name). I totally see her going that way. But I really think she should look into the whole Million Years Ago feel. During her Joes Pub stop she mentioned that song as a jumping off point for the next album. I'm totally here for that. That's one of my favorites on the album.
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She did a great country 'cover' with Darius Rucker before 21 surfaced.
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she's a unique combo, of personality, voice, and style, she can't be copied no. But others could learn that making your own niche can be more successful than fitting in with the prevailing way
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There are plenty of quality artists already doing that but the niche is the very thing that stops them reaching a wider audience! If there's a lesson to be learned from Adele and some of the other most successful UK artists recently like Sam Smith and Ed Sheeran it's that playing it safe and rather soppy is how to appeal to the most people at the moment. Not the most exciting development for pop music imo but lots of other people seem happy with it.
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well obviously not everyone is as sophisticated as yourself. But why mention those two, they're no more popular than Gaga, Beyonce and dozens more. What we were trying to establish is why Adele is in a league of her own saleswise, Ed & Sam aren't comparable.
It's not about being sophisticated. When it comes to what I'd like to see more of in popular music at the mo, I'll settle for some more creativity/risk taking/excitement rather than sophistication. |
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There are plenty of quality artists already doing that but the niche is the very thing that stops them reaching a wider audience! If there's a lesson to be learned from Adele and some of the other most successful UK artists recently like Sam Smith and Ed Sheeran it's that playing it safe and rather soppy is how to appeal to the most people at the moment. Not the most exciting development for pop music imo but lots of other people seem happy with it.
I've got to ask dude, why does Adele being so incredibly successful get you so annoyed? This latest post is one of many where you are seemingly fishing for an angry response. You've even mildly angered Joe now and he is one of the most mild natured (and witty, don't forget) posters here. It really is time to move on. Of course you will now reply that I'm talking nonsense/you are not in the slightest bit bothered about her success but your posts scream otherwise. You don't like her, we absolutely get it. She's by no means my absolute favourite artist of all time but she does have something unique that clearly draws in not just me and her fans on here but countless millions around the world. Just be happy for her man ![]() Anyway.....the just over million figure for the US is apparently for 6 days so will be higher still when BB report. I know Joe poo poo'd the idea of '25' outselling '21' when I suggested the possibility a few weeks ago but I see no reason to change my prediction. Ridiculous? Of course. But this is Adele and to get anywhere near predicting her sales I find it best to think of a stupid amount.....then triple it! PPS Those French 2nd week sales truly are insane. She could actually go Diamond there by year end. PPPS 439k in the UK second week, outselling the rest of the Top 10 combined and the 5th biggest weekly sale of all time! In her 2nd week. Already certified 4x platinum. In 2 weeks
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Because I'm talking about the most popular UK artists at the moment (who happen to also be picking up Brit Awards, Grammys etc. let's not forget) and what it says about the type of music that currently sells the most in the UK. As you may have gathered, I don't see Adele as being wildly different musically but she obviously appeals to even vmore people (largely down to her voice imo).
It's not about being sophisticated. When it comes to what I'd like to see more of in popular music at the mo, I'll settle for some more creativity/risk taking/excitement rather than sophistication. The big hit single of the year is/was Ronson's 'Up town funk' which is essentially a piece of cut up retro music put together by a producer with a feat. singer. I'm bored with that formula and maybe Adele's success will bring an end to the dominance of such formulaic music? |
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The big hit single of the year is/was Ronson's 'Up town funk' which is essentially a piece of cut up retro music put together by a producer with a feat. singer. I'm bored with that formula and maybe Adele's success will bring an end to the dominance of such formulaic music?
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I've got to ask dude, why does Adele being so incredibly successful get you so annoyed? This latest post is one of many where you are seemingly fishing for an angry response. You've even mildly angered Joe now and he is one of the most mild natured (and witty, don't forget) posters here. It really is time to move on. Of course you will now reply that I'm talking nonsense/you are not in the slightest bit bothered about her success but your posts scream otherwise. You don't like her, we absolutely get it. She's by no means my absolute favourite artist of all time but she does have something unique that clearly draws in not just me and her fans on here but countless millions around the world. Just be happy for her man
![]() And there's no need to paint everything as black and white, like people either love or hate an artist. I like some of Adele's songs but dislike others. In between all the "Adele's music is boring and crap" posts and all the "OMG! Look at Adele's sales, she's amazing" posts there is a more considered opinion and imo, a more interesting discussion to be had. Also, there's nowt wrong with different opinions on artists and certainly no need to feel personally offended by them. |
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The mass psychology is the most interesting thing about the whole Adele sales phenomenon. Interesting and a bit scary.
It's great, if perhaps embarrassing, for Adele. But many other artists won't get sales this Christmas because of her. Only so many albums will be bought as presents by browers this year, and if Adele is the one, or the one of the limited number decided upon, then other artists will inevitably lose out. Especially other artists who might appeal to her demographic. Just a thought I'm throwing out there. |
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I'm certainly not annoyed by Adele's success but I'm also not someone who gets remotely excited by sales numbers or looks at them in isolation when discussing music or trying to draw conclusions. I'm mildly disappointed in the creative direction Adele has taken since I first heard her before the release of her debut album when she piqued my interest but that often happens. In this thread I am talking more about pop music and the biggest sellers in general. Any annoyance is more about the style of music and type of artist that prevails at the moment as it's not terribly interesting to me. That is just my opinion based on my preferences, others will disagree of course.
And there's no need to paint everything as black and white, like people either love or hate an artist. I like some of Adele's songs but dislike others. In between all the "Adele's music is boring and crap" posts and all the "OMG! Look at Adele's sales, she's amazing" posts there is a more considered opinion and imo, a more interesting discussion to be had. Also, there's nowt wrong with different opinions on artists and certainly no need to feel personally offended by them. Deny it all you want but effectively labelling her music 'soppy and safe' in a thread regarding her incredible sales says everything about your modus operandi. Join Smithy on ignore. Have fun in there, you two.
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Deny it all you want but effectively labelling her music 'soppy and safe' in a thread regarding her incredible sales says everything about your modus operandi. Join Smithy on ignore. Have fun in there, you two.
![]() . Your response to my perfectly reasonable and sensible post says a lot more about you than me. You're incapable of having an adult discussion and accept other opinions when it comes to your favourite artists. I always think that resorting to an ignore list is quite childish. Would never use one myself, I'd rather try to counter an argument and put my point across rather than run away from someone. |
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