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Abby and Caroline; Shock wins?
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jllc
05-12-2015
I enjoyed Abbey and Alijaz's relationship it was a real partnership. I think she did get better and better as the competition went on. I think it was sad that because of who she was a lot of people looked down on her. But I actually think she came across really nice on the show, and her all round dancing really improved. As has been said before, sometimes the best dancer doesn't win, but the person who has had the best journey.
StigOfTheKrump
05-12-2015
Abbey was top of the leaderboard in week one. She had no journey.
robbleona
05-12-2015
Originally Posted by Gwaed Waedlyd:
“Do you think these two were shock winners? I think so, was convinced Suzanne and Frankie were going to win both seasons. I was shocked when I heard Abby won.

Were these shock results?”

I half expected flack to win...she was technically proficient as the series went along this became more apparent, and she gained in popularity (now on x factor again, well done, guys).
As for abby I thought she was a gonner after her bottom 2 experience...but she changed her persona, adapted to the crowd,, and bingo.......
jllc
05-12-2015
Originally Posted by StigOfTheKrump:
“Abbey was top of the leaderboard in week one. She had no journey.”

So, she still had to learn all of the style of dances, so how can it be anything other than a journey.
HopesandDreams
05-12-2015
Originally Posted by edy10:
“Abbey yes. It really took a while for it to finally sink it for me. I couldn't believe it. To say how happy I was is an understatement ...it is one of those things you really , really wish to happen but couldnt possibly see happening....this may be an over-exaggeration for some people but it was nothing short of a miracle . I NEVER saw it coming; especially considering the opinions that quite a lot of people had about her.

Till this day, she will remain my favorite winner EVER (sorry Alesha ) mostly because I really enjoyed her season, liked her/her partnership and the unpredictability of her win (for me). I was shocked....like really shocked.


Caroline. No. The tide started turning towards her during the later weeks; She started building momentum at the end and until the finals. I expected her to win and wasnt surprised at all; And she was a forum's favorite; Abbey really wasn't (which made her win even more sweeter ) .”

I don't think we have a 'gush' smiley 100% agree with you on Abby, she is my most favourite SCD winner ever, I spoke to her once, and she is just so down to earth, and a very beautiful lady.

I have said it before, but take great pleasure saying it again, she for me, was grace and elegance personified, she left me mesmerised with her dancing.

This is why I am so made up she is on the Christmas show, I am so looking forward to seeing her again, for me, the best SCD winner ever, it will take someone very special to top her in my eyes.
marie67
05-12-2015
Neither were shock winners but:

Abbey i wanted to win and was not sure at all that it would happen and it wouldn't have been a major surprise if she didn't win.

Caroline: i didn't particularly want her to win but fully expected it to happen and wasn't at all surprised.
Steve9214
05-12-2015
The final is decided by the fact that X-Factor finishes a week earlier, so you have loads of teeny girls voting on Strictly for the first time.

They have no idea who has danced what in the past weeks, and only go by what they have read in celeb magazines or tabloids etc.
They may not even know who 2 or 3 out of the 4 finalists actually are

Natalie had previously played a "nasty character" in Corrie, so the new voters only saw that. Abbey was a glamourous model with a WAG lifestyle they all want to emulate, so that explains her vote.

Last year Caroline Flack won, as the tweenies knew her from the previous year's X-factor.

Look at the recent winners of Strictly, they all appeal to young teenage girls.
Either young male hunks like Harry Judd or Louis Smith, or "sweet" girlies like Flack, Clancy or Tointon.

My opinion is that to be fairer to the regular Strictly viewers and voters is that they should also add the votes from previous weeks of Strictly that each celeb got, so that the final is not decided by teeny girls only voting on Strictly as X-factor has ended.

This way, great dancers like Natalie Gumede, Sophie Ellis Bextor, Simon Webb etc would get a fairer crack in the final.
They would not lose out just because 14 year olds have never heard of them, or cannot seperate the person from the character they played in a soap
Vodka_Drinka
05-12-2015
Steve, sorry but thats all nonsense. Caroline is pretty unpopular with most tweenies due to her relationship with Harry Styles.

Harry Judd was the best and deserved to win in his year, though Chelsee was very good as well. I also think most viewers are intelligent enough to realise that Natalie is an actress and isnt really Kirsty Soames.
GeorgeMarsh
05-12-2015
Craig was pushing both of them to win so much so I wasn't surprised.
bornfree
05-12-2015
Originally Posted by Barbra:
“I agree with what seems to be the majority view here - Abbey was a surprise but not Caroline. I thought Natalie should have won comfortably that year, but I get the feeling that many viewers have voted for Aljaz hence Abbey won, undeservingly.”

I think Alijaz is a lovely bloke. I wish he was Anita's partner. Both Alijaz and Aliona really do wonders for their partners.
JDarcy
05-12-2015
Abby- Yes! Very much expected either Susanna to win (popular vote) or Natalie (dancing ability vote).

Caroline- God no. From a few weeks before the final it was being lined up for her to win and her getting 40 in the semis for a fairly average salsa was the nail in the coffin, it was certain from then.

I should point out this doesn't mean I think they weren't deserving- Abby was a fabulous technical dancer. I didn't like Caroline personally but she was clearly popular. I just wish they hadn't felt the need to overmark her so much in the late stages
Jim Kowalski
06-12-2015
The winner is always a shock to me,for different reasons.
Steve9214
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“I also think most viewers are intelligent enough to realise that Natalie is an actress and isnt really Kirsty Soames.”

My point is that there is no X-Factor that week - so we are not talking about "intelligent viewers" we are talking about Tweens (who always vote in huge numbers) who think X-Factor is "real" so cannot possibly tell the difference between the warm, supremely talented Natalie and "Nasty Kirsty" character she played.

In that series they would also have never heard of Sophie, and would think Susanna Reid was older than their Mum.

It is this unflux of uninformed voter that skews the votes of the regular trictly viewers.

All I am saying is add in the votes cast in previous weeks as well, so the "Intelligent voters" get their winner

Whoever wins this year, I hope they come back to do the "WInners slot" at the launch show having done at least a modicum of rehearsal and kept up with their dance training
holly berry
06-12-2015
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