Originally Posted by Double_Trouble:
“Does "Creepy little man" not qualify as a nasty name? In my book it does.”
“Does "Creepy little man" not qualify as a nasty name? In my book it does.”
Well he's not little.
I'm joking!
Jay - flaccid, clumsy and over marked ...
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Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Helen is ballet trained and it was actually something that was a negative because structured ballet movements are of no use in latin and rarely figure in ballroom . The ballet stiffness was often part of her negative critiques . She never could get her hips loosened .
Georgia is street dance trained, handy for the latin dances no doubt , but despite being easily better than jay and really sweet she is getting sidelined . It seems her being female and pretty is a disadvantage when there is a dimple cheeked man batting his eyelashes and acting coy to contend with .
Kellie is 38 so stage school was probably 20 years ago , possibly longer so there is no comparison to jay doing 6 years of dance training at a dance academy barely 5 years ago .”
“Helen is ballet trained and it was actually something that was a negative because structured ballet movements are of no use in latin and rarely figure in ballroom . The ballet stiffness was often part of her negative critiques . She never could get her hips loosened .
Georgia is street dance trained, handy for the latin dances no doubt , but despite being easily better than jay and really sweet she is getting sidelined . It seems her being female and pretty is a disadvantage when there is a dimple cheeked man batting his eyelashes and acting coy to contend with .
Kellie is 38 so stage school was probably 20 years ago , possibly longer so there is no comparison to jay doing 6 years of dance training at a dance academy barely 5 years ago .”
I think you will find Jay finished at MADD when he was 16 so by my maths that was 9 years ago. He actually joined The Wanted when he was 17.
Originally Posted by hansue:
“I think you will find Jay finished at MADD when he was 16 so by my maths that was 9 years ago. He actually joined The Wanted when he was 17.”
“I think you will find Jay finished at MADD when he was 16 so by my maths that was 9 years ago. He actually joined The Wanted when he was 17.”
... And it was only 3 years at MADD and before that it was only after school clubs in dancing. My kids attend tae kwon do and tennis after school. It hardly qualifies them as Wimbledon ready Martial art masters.
I note with interest that my comment about the name calling was ignored by certain person.
Until he was 16, Jay attended an ordinary Comprehensive School - All Saints in Mansfield - about 1 1/4 hour school bus drive away from home. He didn't do any dance there.
Went to tap classes with his Mum at 13 at an ordinary local dance school in the evening after School - suppose did some at weekends too. Did ballet there too.
Went to MADD from 16 to 19 to do full time Musical Theatre - dance, singing, drama and professional studies. Dance was contemporary dance as far as I can see. Understand he carried on with some ballet.
Auditioned for the Wanted at 19. It was decided they wouldn't dance in the Wanted.
So he has a bit more training than Georgia who did a 2 year Performing Arts course, but she did dance for longer - though think it was contemporary too.
Kellie went to the Sylvia Young Theatre School as a child, so had more and better training, but longer ago.
Helen had the best training - did Musical Theatre at the Royal Acadamy of Music, was a junior associate of the Birmingham Royal Ballet and attended the Birmingham School of Acting.
Went to tap classes with his Mum at 13 at an ordinary local dance school in the evening after School - suppose did some at weekends too. Did ballet there too.
Went to MADD from 16 to 19 to do full time Musical Theatre - dance, singing, drama and professional studies. Dance was contemporary dance as far as I can see. Understand he carried on with some ballet.
Auditioned for the Wanted at 19. It was decided they wouldn't dance in the Wanted.
So he has a bit more training than Georgia who did a 2 year Performing Arts course, but she did dance for longer - though think it was contemporary too.
Kellie went to the Sylvia Young Theatre School as a child, so had more and better training, but longer ago.
Helen had the best training - did Musical Theatre at the Royal Acadamy of Music, was a junior associate of the Birmingham Royal Ballet and attended the Birmingham School of Acting.
Originally Posted by Fred.:
“Until he was 16, Jay attended an ordinary Comprehensive School - All Saints in Mansfield - about 1 1/4 hour school bus drive away from home. He didn't do any dance there.
He went to tap classes with his Mum at 13 at an ordinary local dance school in the evening - suppose did some at weekends too. Did ballet too.
He went to MADD from 16 to 19 to do Musical Theatre - dance, singing, drama and professional studies. Dance was contemporary dance as far as I can see. Understand he carried on with some ballet - but the Musical Theatre course is full time.
Auditioned for the Wanted at 19. It was decided they wouldn't dance in the Wanted.
So he has a bit more training than Georgia who did a 2 year Performing Arts course but did dance for longer - though think it was contemporary too.
Kellie went to the Sylvia Young Theatre School as a child, so had more and better training, but longer ago.
Helen had the best training - did Musical Theatre at the Royal Acadamy of Music, was a junior associate of the Birmingham Royal Ballet and attended the Birmingham School of Acting.”
“Until he was 16, Jay attended an ordinary Comprehensive School - All Saints in Mansfield - about 1 1/4 hour school bus drive away from home. He didn't do any dance there.
He went to tap classes with his Mum at 13 at an ordinary local dance school in the evening - suppose did some at weekends too. Did ballet too.
He went to MADD from 16 to 19 to do Musical Theatre - dance, singing, drama and professional studies. Dance was contemporary dance as far as I can see. Understand he carried on with some ballet - but the Musical Theatre course is full time.
Auditioned for the Wanted at 19. It was decided they wouldn't dance in the Wanted.
So he has a bit more training than Georgia who did a 2 year Performing Arts course but did dance for longer - though think it was contemporary too.
Kellie went to the Sylvia Young Theatre School as a child, so had more and better training, but longer ago.
Helen had the best training - did Musical Theatre at the Royal Acadamy of Music, was a junior associate of the Birmingham Royal Ballet and attended the Birmingham School of Acting.”
Kellie also taught at the Sylvia Young School before joining Eastenders
Originally Posted by Fred.:
“Until he was 16, Jay attended an ordinary Comprehensive School - All Saints in Mansfield - about 1 1/4 hour school bus drive away from home. He didn't do any dance there.
He went to tap classes with his Mum at 13 at an ordinary local dance school in the evening - suppose did some at weekends too. Did ballet too.
He went to MADD from 16 to 19 to do Musical Theatre - dance, singing, drama and professional studies. Dance was contemporary dance as far as I can see. Understand he carried on with some ballet - but the Musical Theatre course is full time.
Auditioned for the Wanted at 19. It was decided they wouldn't dance in the Wanted.
So he has a bit more training than Georgia who did a 2 year Performing Arts course but did dance for longer - though think it was contemporary too.
Kellie went to the Sylvia Young Theatre School as a child, so had more and better training, but longer ago.
Helen had the best training - did Musical Theatre at the Royal Acadamy of Music, was a junior associate of the Birmingham Royal Ballet and attended the Birmingham School of Acting.”
“Until he was 16, Jay attended an ordinary Comprehensive School - All Saints in Mansfield - about 1 1/4 hour school bus drive away from home. He didn't do any dance there.
He went to tap classes with his Mum at 13 at an ordinary local dance school in the evening - suppose did some at weekends too. Did ballet too.
He went to MADD from 16 to 19 to do Musical Theatre - dance, singing, drama and professional studies. Dance was contemporary dance as far as I can see. Understand he carried on with some ballet - but the Musical Theatre course is full time.
Auditioned for the Wanted at 19. It was decided they wouldn't dance in the Wanted.
So he has a bit more training than Georgia who did a 2 year Performing Arts course but did dance for longer - though think it was contemporary too.
Kellie went to the Sylvia Young Theatre School as a child, so had more and better training, but longer ago.
Helen had the best training - did Musical Theatre at the Royal Acadamy of Music, was a junior associate of the Birmingham Royal Ballet and attended the Birmingham School of Acting.”
I think Kellie has performed dance on many occasions throughout her career. Sorry I’ve lost the link but she’s appeared in several musicals where she was dancing.
Personally I don't mind contestants having prior experience. However I dislike it when someone targets one of them when there is more to tell and therefore whilst we are doing a bit of straight record setting then we may as well do it for all
... and therefore the same would apply to Jay having done his after school club training in ballet (and tap) of course.
Actually it's a tad more than just street dancing as she used to go to dance school to do hip-hop and street dance and freestyle as well
Out of 12 series of SCD there have been six male winners and six female winners and the last two years have females. I don't see any advantage.... even for females who tend to do "batting" of eyelashes better than blokes as a rule.
Kelly by her own admission has "danced throughout my school life...When I was younger, dancing was my life, I loved it so much.’
At the end of the day all four have had training of various sorts and levels and their pros can gear their showdance to their strengths in which case, and I am looking forward to seeing them all without targeting any one of them with a constant barrage of disparaging comments. Good luck to them all.
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Helen is ballet trained and it was actually something that was a negative because structured ballet movements are of no use in latin and rarely figure in ballroom . The ballet stiffness was often part of her negative critiques . She never could get her hips loosened .”
“Helen is ballet trained and it was actually something that was a negative because structured ballet movements are of no use in latin and rarely figure in ballroom . The ballet stiffness was often part of her negative critiques . She never could get her hips loosened .”
... and therefore the same would apply to Jay having done his after school club training in ballet (and tap) of course.
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Georgia is street dance trained, handy for the latin dances no doubt , but despite being easily better than jay and really sweet she is getting sidelined .”
“Georgia is street dance trained, handy for the latin dances no doubt , but despite being easily better than jay and really sweet she is getting sidelined .”
Actually it's a tad more than just street dancing as she used to go to dance school to do hip-hop and street dance and freestyle as well
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“ It seems her being female and pretty is a disadvantage when there is a dimple cheeked man batting his eyelashes and acting coy to contend with”
“ It seems her being female and pretty is a disadvantage when there is a dimple cheeked man batting his eyelashes and acting coy to contend with”
Out of 12 series of SCD there have been six male winners and six female winners and the last two years have females. I don't see any advantage.... even for females who tend to do "batting" of eyelashes better than blokes as a rule.
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Kellie is 38 so stage school was probably 20 years ago , possibly longer so there is no comparison to jay doing 6 years of dance training at a dance academy barely 5 years ago .”
“Kellie is 38 so stage school was probably 20 years ago , possibly longer so there is no comparison to jay doing 6 years of dance training at a dance academy barely 5 years ago .”
Kelly by her own admission has "danced throughout my school life...When I was younger, dancing was my life, I loved it so much.’
At the end of the day all four have had training of various sorts and levels and their pros can gear their showdance to their strengths in which case, and I am looking forward to seeing them all without targeting any one of them with a constant barrage of disparaging comments. Good luck to them all.
Originally Posted by Polly-T:
“Kellie also taught at the Sylvia Young School before joining Eastenders”
“Kellie also taught at the Sylvia Young School before joining Eastenders”
We never actually saw evidence of that. Also, I'm not inclined to believe you when you said Georgia had equivalent or better training than Jay in another thread.
Originally Posted by Fred.:
“Until he was 16, Jay attended an ordinary Comprehensive School - All Saints in Mansfield - about 1 1/4 hour school bus drive away from home. He didn't do any dance there.
Went to tap classes with his Mum at 13 at an ordinary local dance school in the evening after School - suppose did some at weekends too. Did ballet there too.
Went to MADD from 16 to 19 to do full time Musical Theatre - dance, singing, drama and professional studies. Dance was contemporary dance as far as I can see. Understand he carried on with some ballet.
Auditioned for the Wanted at 19. It was decided they wouldn't dance in the Wanted.
So he has a bit more training than Georgia who did a 2 year Performing Arts course, but she did dance for longer - though think it was contemporary too.
Kellie went to the Sylvia Young Theatre School as a child, so had more and better training, but longer ago.
Helen had the best training - did Musical Theatre at the Royal Acadamy of Music, was a junior associate of the Birmingham Royal Ballet and attended the Birmingham School of Acting.”
“Until he was 16, Jay attended an ordinary Comprehensive School - All Saints in Mansfield - about 1 1/4 hour school bus drive away from home. He didn't do any dance there.
Went to tap classes with his Mum at 13 at an ordinary local dance school in the evening after School - suppose did some at weekends too. Did ballet there too.
Went to MADD from 16 to 19 to do full time Musical Theatre - dance, singing, drama and professional studies. Dance was contemporary dance as far as I can see. Understand he carried on with some ballet.
Auditioned for the Wanted at 19. It was decided they wouldn't dance in the Wanted.
So he has a bit more training than Georgia who did a 2 year Performing Arts course, but she did dance for longer - though think it was contemporary too.
Kellie went to the Sylvia Young Theatre School as a child, so had more and better training, but longer ago.
Helen had the best training - did Musical Theatre at the Royal Acadamy of Music, was a junior associate of the Birmingham Royal Ballet and attended the Birmingham School of Acting.”
oops I made a mistake in a previous post about Jay and his time at MADD. Thanks for putting me right. It was really to prove to a previous poster that Jay had left there some years ago - 6 in fact when they were trying to imply it was less than 5 years.
I'm sure at this stage of the game, previous training does not give them any advantage as they have all had over 3 months of intensive training from a professional. Also none of them had been trained in latin or ballroom.
Originally Posted by farscape:
“That's really what's slightly irksome about a lot of the people who comment negatively about Jay. We all accept what is said here is a matter of opinion but there is a very sneering tone on this issue that suggests or even outright says that anyone who likes him as a performer or even as a person is under his "thrall" as if they are that stupid. You can see why his supporters might get a little defensive at that.”
“That's really what's slightly irksome about a lot of the people who comment negatively about Jay. We all accept what is said here is a matter of opinion but there is a very sneering tone on this issue that suggests or even outright says that anyone who likes him as a performer or even as a person is under his "thrall" as if they are that stupid. You can see why his supporters might get a little defensive at that.”
That's exactly it right there. I wouldn't mind if the criticism was "I don't like his style of dancing", but it's always a sneaky way of saying "He's only popular because he's pretty and everyone who likes him is a mindless little girl who only thinks with her ovaries." Not only patronizing, arrogant and rude, but sexist as well.
With regards to prior training, they're now all had the same extensive period of intense ballroom and latin training that I'm not sure their prior experience really counts for anything at this stage.
Originally Posted by shelleyj89:
“With regards to prior training, they're now all had the same extensive period of intense ballroom and latin training that I'm not sure their prior experience really counts for anything at this stage.”
“With regards to prior training, they're now all had the same extensive period of intense ballroom and latin training that I'm not sure their prior experience really counts for anything at this stage.”
Well, all of them except Katie. With as much as they banged on about Anita being untrained, they all just sort of forgot that Katie is also untrained.
Originally Posted by Nina_Blake:
“We never actually saw evidence of that. Also, I'm not inclined to believe you when you said Georgia had equivalent or better training than Jay in another thread.”
“We never actually saw evidence of that. Also, I'm not inclined to believe you when you said Georgia had equivalent or better training than Jay in another thread.”
You'd be right . Georgia has the least dance experience of any of the three finalists with experience . 2 years on street dance , hip-hop .Nothing compared to jay's 6 years, right up until he was 19 .
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“You'd be right . Georgia has the least dance experience of any of the three finalists with experience . 2 years on street dance , hip-hop .Nothing compared to jay's 6 years, right up until he was 19 .”
“You'd be right . Georgia has the least dance experience of any of the three finalists with experience . 2 years on street dance , hip-hop .Nothing compared to jay's 6 years, right up until he was 19 .”
No she doesn't. Katie does, having no dance training at all.
Also, Jay was 16, not 19.
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“You'd be right . Georgia has the least dance experience of any of the three finalists with experience . 2 years on street dance , hip-hop .Nothing compared to jay's 6 years, right up until he was 19 .”
“You'd be right . Georgia has the least dance experience of any of the three finalists with experience . 2 years on street dance , hip-hop .Nothing compared to jay's 6 years, right up until he was 19 .”
Dont you ever get bored rigid spouting and typing the same old, same old? It's such a total borefest!
This whole series you seem to have concentrated more on the contestants (well, one in particular!) apparent previous dance training (even though it wasn't specifically in Latin and ballroom)! than just enjoying the show for what it is!
Also, as stated in a previous post, are you still not going to watch tomorrow night (as Jay made the final), but still going online to vote for anyone but him?
Originally Posted by Hmmbop:
“Dont you ever get bored rigid spouting and typing the same old, same old? It's such a total borefest!
This whole series you seem to have concentrated more on the contestants (well, one in particular!) apparent previous dance training (even though it wasn't specifically in Latin and ballroom)! than just enjoying the show for what it is!
Also, as stated in a previous post, are you still not going to watch tomorrow night (as Jay made the final), but still going online to vote for anyone but him?”
“Dont you ever get bored rigid spouting and typing the same old, same old? It's such a total borefest!
This whole series you seem to have concentrated more on the contestants (well, one in particular!) apparent previous dance training (even though it wasn't specifically in Latin and ballroom)! than just enjoying the show for what it is!
Also, as stated in a previous post, are you still not going to watch tomorrow night (as Jay made the final), but still going online to vote for anyone but him?”
amazed that this thread still has legs.....oh wait, I've just broken off that appalling text santa rubbish to give it more legs.....!
Originally Posted by LaughingSock:
“No she doesn't. Katie does, having no dance training at all.
Also, Jay was 16, not 19.”
“No she doesn't. Katie does, having no dance training at all.
Also, Jay was 16, not 19.”
oh that bird is gonna be soooooo indignant with you..she did say out of the three WITH real dance experience.....meaning katie hasn't any......Well, apart from the ballet lessons she got fed up with. And have you seen how her daughter can dance? oh and......
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“You'd be right . Georgia has the least dance experience of any of the three finalists with experience . 2 years on street dance , hip-hop .Nothing compared to jay's 6 years, right up until he was 19 .”
“You'd be right . Georgia has the least dance experience of any of the three finalists with experience . 2 years on street dance , hip-hop .Nothing compared to jay's 6 years, right up until he was 19 .”
I haven't read about Georgia so you could be correct but could you cite your sources for where it confirms it was only 2 years of dance please? I ask because you keep going on about Jay having had 6 years intensive training whereas three of it was an after school club and the other three musical theatre.
Last but not least I would ask again, in your opinion does "Creepy little man" not qualify as a nasty name? In my book it does.
Originally Posted by LaughingSock:
“No she doesn't. Katie does, having no dance training at all.
Also, Jay was 16, not 19.”
“No she doesn't. Katie does, having no dance training at all.
Also, Jay was 16, not 19.”
Read it again .
I'll repeat what I said ,
Quote:
“Georgia has the least dance experience of any of the three finalists with experience .”
“Georgia has the least dance experience of any of the three finalists with experience .”
The bib refers to jay, kellie and georgia obviously . If I'd meant all four finalists I'd have said that .
Originally Posted by mimi dlc:
“It's like Groundhog Day in here”
“It's like Groundhog Day in here”
Yes ... But amusing how a certain person is cherry picking what to keep bringing up and what to ignore
.
Originally Posted by Double_Trouble:
“Yes ... But amusing how a certain person is cherry picking what to keep bringing up and what to ignore.”
“Yes ... But amusing how a certain person is cherry picking what to keep bringing up and what to ignore
.”
Yes it is getting a trifle tedious
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