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Katie - when does she next get a Latin dance?
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Osusana
06-12-2015
And I don't count the AT in that.
I would not be at all surprised if the dances have been fixed for Katie to get ballroom at a time the BBC desperately want to keep her in.
She does not have the relaxed legs and flexibility for Latin IMO.
Please can anyone let me know what dances she has left to do?
DeltaBlues
06-12-2015
She has waltz, Charleston and samba left, so if she gets through to next week I'm guessing Anton will nix the samba and they'll do Charleston and waltz.

ETA: I don't think the BBC give a pickled walnut who is kept in, goes or wins, btw.
Monkseal
06-12-2015
She's got Charleston, Waltz and Samba left, and she'll probably skip samba.

If the BBC so desperately want Katie in she wouldn't have been towards the bottom of the leaderboard so many times over the course of the competition. Her public vote has been tested time and time again and so far it's passed every time. All of the pros get to skip a genre, and they all to a degree (according to Robin) get to pick when they do each dance. So if anyone deserves credit for a decent gameplan to give her her best dances now it's Anton. You could say the same for Aliona, making sure Jay has rumba this week with Viennese Waltz next week, given his strengths in lyricism.
CravenHaven
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by Osusana:
“I would not be at all surprised if the dances have been fixed for Katie to get ballroom at a time the BBC desperately want to keep her in.”

You just wrote in another thread why you don't have to take anonymous poster stuff seriously, and then you float your own conspiracy theory in a new thread.
:rollseyes:
Vodka_Drinka
06-12-2015
I think Kellie is the one they desperately want to keep in. That's why they overmarmed her last night. Katie is doing well with the public because she's with Anton and people have this weird thing about wanting him in the final.
MaggieMcGee
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“I think Kellie is the one they desperately want to keep in. That's why they overmarmed her last night. Katie is doing well with the public because she's with Anton and people have this weird thing about wanting him in the final.”

I'm voting Katie and it's got nowt to do with Anton who I dislike as a rule.
holly berry
06-12-2015
Katie has improved quite a lot in the last three weeks and is where she is on merit.
Starpuss
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by MaggieMcGee:
“I'm voting Katie and it's got nowt to do with Anton who I dislike as a rule.”

Indeed.

I voted for her last night and it had nothing to do with Anton. Hers was my favourite dance last night (I love the foxtrot to start with) and I want to see her dance again.
VicsMum
06-12-2015
I really wanted to see her doing a samba. It is never going to happen but boy, how I wish she did that.
BMLisa
06-12-2015
Anton and Aliona have played a blinder dance choice wise.

I can see them both swerving Samba.

Aliona has said samba is most difficult to teach and that Charleston is easy to score high, so I'd be surprised if she'd planned to have Samba so late

Katie did say at the start that she was most looking forward to Samba, which makes me wonder but I still think both will Charleston
Osusana
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by CravenHaven:
“You just wrote in another thread why you don't have to take anonymous poster stuff seriously, and then you float your own conspiracy theory in a new thread.
:rollseyes:”

Please explain "anonymous poster" as I have no idea what you mean, I was referring in that thread to all those "Anita has had no previous experience" posters, time and time again..........
There may be a hint of conspiracy theory in my OP but I was genuinely interested in what dances Katie had left and how come she got all the non-Anton friendly dances out of the way so early in the competition.
I would prefer them to dance half the same each week - half do a Latin and half do a ballroom. Then you can compare properly; as it is we are always comparing apples with pears.
j4Rose
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by holly berry:
“Katie has improved quite a lot in the last three weeks and is where she is on merit.”

She has never been bad at Ballroom dances though. I doubt her Latin has improved much from the beginning.
northgirl
06-12-2015
Sacrilege but I preferred her rumba to Jay's dance (not an expert on technique I confess) and would like to see that or her jive again if she gets to the final. I don't think the party Latin were brilliant but I also don't think they were always as awful as the slating from the judges implied. Hopefully next week will be a lovely waltz and fun Charleston that might just be enough to see them in the final. I don't think they will win but would like to see Anton have a chance to do a showdance
RachelBlackburn
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by Osusana:
“And I don't count the AT in that.
I would not be at all surprised if the dances have been fixed for Katie to get ballroom at a time the BBC desperately want to keep her in.
She does not have the relaxed legs and flexibility for Latin IMO.
Please can anyone let me know what dances she has left to do?”

It's swings and roundabouts. Katie had a lot of latin early. Plus to that is she gets a run of ballroom (AS - AT - Foxtrot - Waltz) when the competition is hottest. Downside is she was very low on the scoreboard in some early weeks when those around her on the scoreboard e.g. Carol, Jeremy were often getting good public votes. So if it is a strategy, it's not one without risk or one that won't test your public vote.

Ultimately to get to the final you have to dance all but one of the seven ballroom and seven latin dances (where AT counts as ballroom and Charleston as latin). You can't - short of convenient injury! - manage to skip more than one of either type.
MaggieMcGee
06-12-2015
The idea that Katie can't do latin comes from Darcey and I don't think it's true. Her cha cha cha was abysmal and I suspect she found the feet/leg movement impossible to grasp hence the routine. Her jive was pretty good and would be much improved now. Her rumba was excellent. My favourite of her latin dances, because it was filled with possibility, was her salsa and I'd like that to be the reprised dance if she makes it to the finals. I could see that she had a feel for the music and would be able to improve her technique.
ewoodie
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by j4Rose:
“She has never been bad at Ballroom dances though. I doubt her Latin has improved much from the beginning.”

Her ballroom is ok because she's in hold and she has Anton who is a ballroom expert. I agree her latin won't have improved that much. As far as dancing goes, Katie is in the bottom two along with Anita. Although Anita is probably a bit better as she puts everything into her dances and really tries to give a full performance. Katie's got this far mainly on her popularity but that's Strictly!
JohnStannard
06-12-2015
definatly have latin next week if their through as they have to do one ballroom and 1 latin. it will either be Samba or Charleston. Hope its Charleston as i think this may be good enough for them to get to the final but can see them being eliminated if its Samba. I dont think she will win but would love to see Anton in the final. this is possible as long as they avoid Samba. Thing is though when i went to see him on tour a few years ago i spoke to him and he said Samba is his fave Latin and I know Katie said to start with that she was looking forward to that. I hope that they have somehow decided to swirve it. As we know they gave Anton's weakest latin dances to Katie at the start of the series when it was early and duffers were still in& I think they would have given the Samba at that point if they had it so thats why i think they have Charleston and will swirve the Samba. But if thats the latin shes looked forward to and is his fave i dont know. Prey they swive it and get a chance at the final for Anton's sake as his my fave pro and ive voted loads for him to try get him as far as possible this year as its about time he had a decent run and a decent partner rather than the usual duffers.
tabithakitten
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by MaggieMcGee:
“The idea that Katie can't do latin comes from Darcey and I don't think it's true. Her cha cha cha was abysmal and I suspect she found the feet/leg movement impossible to grasp hence the routine. Her jive was pretty good and would be much improved now. Her rumba was excellent. My favourite of her latin dances, because it was filled with possibility, was her salsa and I'd like that to be the reprised dance if she makes it to the finals. I could see that she had a feel for the music and would be able to improve her technique.”

Really? I thought her salsa was bloody awful and Anton's was even worse . I'd forgotten that Katie might have to reprise a dance that wasn't the best but I can't believe that the judges would be so cruel as to give them any of her early Latin monstrosities. They might do the jive (if it's judges' choice it would be before Jay's - assuming he makes the final and does the jive - so it's a possibility) but I think they might give them the quickstep. The salsa would just re-expose all of Katie's (and Anton's) party Latin weaknesses. Which in the final would be a bad idea.
missfrankiecat
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by tabithakitten:
“Really? I thought her salsa was bloody awful and Anton's was even worse . I'd forgotten that Katie might have to reprise a dance that wasn't the best but I can't believe that the judges would be so cruel as to give them any of her early Latin monstrosities. They might do the jive (if it's judges' choice it would be before Jay's - assuming he makes the final and does the jive - so it's a possibility) but I think they might give them the quickstep. The salsa would just re-expose all of Katie's (and Anton's) party Latin weaknesses. Which in the final would be a bad idea.”

I would like to see her Tango again - I thought it an exquisite choreography, there is room for improvement and it is sufficiently different to contrast with the more classic ballroom we would be likely to get from an Anton Showdance.
Monkseal
06-12-2015
I want them in the full "Captain Kirk" and "Sexy Green Alien Lady" costumes they should have had for their Intergalactic Rumba, now that was a missed opportunity.
MaggieMcGee
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by tabithakitten:
“Really? I thought her salsa was bloody awful and Anton's was even worse . I'd forgotten that Katie might have to reprise a dance that wasn't the best but I can't believe that the judges would be so cruel as to give them any of her early Latin monstrosities. They might do the jive (if it's judges' choice it would be before Jay's - assuming he makes the final and does the jive - so it's a possibility) but I think they might give them the quickstep. The salsa would just re-expose all of Katie's (and Anton's) party Latin weaknesses. Which in the final would be a bad idea.”

I don't think Katie is going to win so taking a risk in the final by showing she can do latin () is a good idea I think. I feel sad for her that she started wanted to learn the samba and that she might leave thinking she cannot dance latin. For this reason alone it is a pity she was partnered with Anton.
csiaddict71
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by MaggieMcGee:
“I don't think Katie is going to win so taking a risk in the final by showing she can do latin () is a good idea I think. I feel sad for her that she started wanted to learn the samba and that she might leave thinking she cannot dance latin. For this reason alone it is a pity she was partnered with Anton.”

Katie is never going to be teeth & tits enough to turn out a decent party Latin, she's too refined, elegant and inherently English for that. Stop blaming Anton.
Geeny
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“I think Kellie is the one they desperately want to keep in. That's why they overmarmed her last night. Katie is doing well with the public because she's with Anton and people have this weird thing about wanting him in the final.”

Not weird, he's been a renowned dancer with many fans long before tv strictly
Geeny
06-12-2015
Helen is too straight legged for latin
j4Rose
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“Her ballroom is ok because she's in hold and she has Anton who is a ballroom expert. I agree her latin won't have improved that much. As far as dancing goes, Katie is in the bottom two along with Anita. Although Anita is probably a bit better as she puts everything into her dances and really tries to give a full performance. Katie's got this far mainly on her popularity but that's Strictly!”

That's true of a lot of contestants though - possibly most of those who appear competent at Ballroom. If you asked them to dance with another person who was learning, they probably wouldn't have a clue.

Katie probably has survived due to her popularity, but I don't think the standard this year has been all that great overall.
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