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Katie - when does she next get a Latin dance?
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MaggieMcGee
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by csiaddict71:
“Katie is never going to be teeth & tits enough to turn out a decent party Latin, she's too refined, elegant and inherently English for that. Stop blaming Anton.”

I'm sorry but your version of party latin is not how it needs to be as we've seen this series with Helen in samba, for example. I haven't blamed Anton 100% but giving a novice with deficiencies in latin to a standard ballroom specialist whose latin leaves a lot to be desired is a contribution to Katie's party latin dances. How much depends upon the dislike of Anton. I attribute 60% of the blame to him and it was him who forgot their salsa routine and not Katie, who was then thrown into a terrible and unrehearsed lift.
yenston
06-12-2015
Disgusted that Katie gets to dodge the samba.
missfrankiecat
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by yenston:
“Disgusted that Katie gets to dodge the samba.”

Are you equally disgusted that Jay 'gets to dodge' the samba?
ewoodie
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by j4Rose:
“That's true of a lot of contestants though - possibly most of those who appear competent at Ballroom. If you asked them to dance with another person who was learning, they probably wouldn't have a clue.

Katie probably has survived due to her popularity, but I don't think the standard this year has been all that great overall.”

Yep & yep!
Vodka_Drinka
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by missfrankiecat:
“Are you equally disgusted that Jay 'gets to dodge' the samba?”

Jay would do a fab Samba.
yenston
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by missfrankiecat:
“Are you equally disgusted that Jay 'gets to dodge' the samba?”

No, because he could clearly do a really good one. He's an excellent dancer who would cope fine with a samba as he's proved himself a brilliant latin dancer. Katie has not. She is rubbish at latin. She would have scored poorly doing a samba, so has been let off with an easy dance. I remain disgusted.
JohnStannard
06-12-2015
thrilled that Katie has Charleston and Waltz. She should do well in both and get to the final. I have wanted Anton in the final for a few years and now she has the easiest Ballroom and Latin can see this year being the year i get what i want. her samba would have been dreadful and if hers was good antons would have been awful
yenston
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by JohnStannard:
“thrilled that Katie has Charleston and Waltz. She should do well in both and get to the final. I have wanted Anton in the final for a few years and now she has the easiest Ballroom and Latin can see this year being the year i get what i want. her samba would have been dreadful and if hers was good antons would have been awful”

You've exactly proved my point! Shouldn't a couple get there on merit and earn their place in the final? I don't want to watch a couple who have got there through a carefully selected order of dances, enabling them to miss the most difficult one of all, just so Anton can be in the final. This show isn't about the pros it's about the celebs. It's ironic that when Katie signed up for the show she said the dance she most wanted to learn and perform was the samba. If I didn't dislike her so much I could almost feel sorry for her. Her samba dream went down the plughole as soon as she was partnered with Anton.
JohnStannard
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by yenston:
“You've exactly proved my point! Shouldn't a couple get there on merit and earn their place in the final? I don't want to watch a couple who have got there through a carefully selected order of dances, enabling them to miss the most difficult one of all, just so Anton can be in the final. This show isn't about the pros it's about the celebs. It's ironic that when Katie signed up for the show she said the dance she most wanted to learn and perform was the samba. If I didn't dislike her so much I could almost feel sorry for her. Her samba dream went down the plughole as soon as she was partnered with Anton.”

Hows that prove your point?
missfrankiecat
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by yenston:
“No, because he could clearly do a really good one. He's an excellent dancer who would cope fine with a samba as he's proved himself a brilliant latin dancer. Katie has not. She is rubbish at latin. She would have scored poorly doing a samba, so has been let off with an easy dance. I remain disgusted.”

I'm sorry you are being utterly illogical. All the dancers are permitted to drop one dance if they go all the way. It is exactly the same rule for each dancer and their Pro selects the one that would be least advantageous for them to do. So the same rule has been applied to each contestant and nobody has been let off anything.
missfrankiecat
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka;80*****6:
“Jay would do a fab Samba.”

Well we'll never know because his pro just like Katie's pro has decided it would be the best dance for them to not do. I am making the point that it is illogical to complain that Katie isn't doing the samba when other dancers have also chosen not to do it.
MaggieMcGee
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by yenston:
“You've exactly proved my point! Shouldn't a couple get there on merit and earn their place in the final? I don't want to watch a couple who have got there through a carefully selected order of dances, enabling them to miss the most difficult one of all, just so Anton can be in the final. This show isn't about the pros it's about the celebs. It's ironic that when Katie signed up for the show she said the dance she most wanted to learn and perform was the samba. If I didn't dislike her so much I could almost feel sorry for her. Her samba dream went down the plughole as soon as she was partnered with Anton.”

Jay and Katie have done exactly the same latin dances thus far so to say that Katie's had an easier ride than Jay is ridiculous. It is sad her samba dream went down the plughole but given what some have said on the forum the pros decide which dances to drop so have a word with Anton please and not Katie. I think your dislike for her prejudices you completely.
MaggieMcGee
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by missfrankiecat:
“Well we'll never know because his pro just like Katie's pro has decided it would be the best dance for them to not do. I am making the point that it is illogical to complain that Katie isn't doing the samba when other dancers have also chosen not to do it.”

Exactly! Jay's such an excellent dancer, apparently, so why is he not confronting the latin dance reputed to be the most difficult. That's a rhetorical question.
holly berry
06-12-2015
I want to see Katie and Anton in the final.

I expect them to be in the dance off next week but I'm taking solace from the fact that they will choose to repeat their waltz and blow the opposition away.
JohnStannard
06-12-2015
I almost agree with previous post but dont think she will be in the DO Anita and Kellie I think will be because the Anton fans will go nuts voting for him to get in the final so i think they will have enough support to get through. I also think she will smash both dances and avoid the bottom of the leaderboard. I will be shocked and would almost ear my hat if they are in the DO Anton fans like me will vote loads and loads to get ADB to the final. if they are there though they will do the Waltz as i think that will get from len and bruno 10's 8 Craig and 9 Darcey the Charleston will get 8,9,9,9 to give them 72
BFGArmy
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by missfrankiecat:
“I would like to see her Tango again - I thought it an exquisite choreography, there is room for improvement and it is sufficiently different to contrast with the more classic ballroom we would be likely to get from an Anton Showdance.”

Agreed - I'd love to see her Tango again, It was a great routine at the time.
Monkseal
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by missfrankiecat:
“I'm sorry you are being utterly illogical. All the dancers are permitted to drop one dance if they go all the way. It is exactly the same rule for each dancer and their Pro selects the one that would be least advantageous for them to do. So the same rule has been applied to each contestant and nobody has been let off anything.”

I think the only way for it to be fair is that Katie has to do the samba alongside her other two semi-finals dances and then they add all three scores together to be honest.
dd23
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“I think the only way for it to be fair is that Katie has to do the samba alongside her other two semi-finals dances and then they add all three scores together to be honest.”

Yes. It would obviously be so bad that an inverse maximum score of minus 40 would be awarded and Anton would be to blame.
They would be bottom of the leaderboard and even more scandalously still avoid the dance off because of the despicable voting of Anton's evil minions.
Monkseal
06-12-2015
Erm Anita would clearly be bottom cause she is by far the worst dancer there she can barely walk.
dd23
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“Erm Anita would clearly be bottom cause she is by far the worst dancer there she can barely walk.”

It'll be carnage right enough!
hisdogspot
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by holly berry:
“I want to see Katie and Anton in the final.

I expect them to be in the dance off next week but I'm taking solace from the fact that they will choose to repeat their waltz and blow the opposition away. ”

If Katie is in a dance off, she's surely gone

She is the worse dancer left in the show, and it is fair that she goes next
daziechain
06-12-2015
Katie said she was most looking forward to doing the Samba!?! I guess she's learnt something about Anton's party Latin routines since then
daziechain
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by JohnStannard:
“I almost agree with previous post but dont think she will be in the DO Anita and Kellie I think will be because the Anton fans will go nuts voting for him to get in the final so i think they will have enough support to get through. I also think she will smash both dances and avoid the bottom of the leaderboard. I will be shocked and would almost ear my hat if they are in the DO Anton fans like me will vote loads and loads to get ADB to the final. if they are there though they will do the Waltz as i think that will get from len and bruno 10's 8 Craig and 9 Darcey the Charleston will get 8,9,9,9 to give them 72”

Anita must have been very high in the public vote this week to avoid the dance off. Think she is a shoo in for the final.
Littlegreen42
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“Erm Anita would clearly be bottom cause she is by far the worst dancer there she can barely walk.”

She has the highest scoring Paso of the series...

It's odd how a couple of not amazing dances can erase weeks of brilliant performances.
tabithakitten
06-12-2015
Originally Posted by Littlegreen42:
“She has the highest scoring Paso of the series...

It's odd how a couple of not amazing dances can erase weeks of brilliant performances. ”

I think the quoted comment may have been a joke.
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