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I didn't like the way she was trying to push herself to be part of the team who were selling high-end properties last week. Joseph had already picked the teams as part of his role as project manager and she should have respected his decision.
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I'm sympathising with Charleine.
She's had to put up with candidates like Richard and Selina, and I think her hard graft has given the impression that she's a poor candidate, when she's really not. Lots of the screentime she is given is when she's arguing with either of them, unfortunately. Another way to look at it - if you take out any moments with Charleine talking to Selina or Richard, she's a much nicer candidate. Less shouting, less whining, etc. Had Charleine been on the winning team this week and Richard on the losing one, Richard would've immediately turned on Scott and Brett. He was on the superior team, whilst Charleine was lumped with a spiteful Selina and a good-for-nothing Gary. The only reason she butts heads with Richard so much is because they're so similar. Charleine is a really good candidate when she's in her element, and she's had plenty of nice moments. She and Jenny seemed to support each other quite early on in the series. When Gary was debating who to bring back, both Joseph and Charleine supported each other that it was 50:50 - neither blamed the other fully. You may think she's as bad as Selina, but look at their Twitter profiles. Selina seems spiteful about the show, Charleine seems quite pleasent. She supports her other candidates, too. |
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I have found her unlikeable throughout the series. She seems unintelligent and perhaps is too shrill because of a sense of inferiority, And tonight's tears - unprofessional and pathetic.
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She was using her emotions to win favour last night I thought, can you imagine if a bloke broke down in tears, would he get the chance to leave the room to collect himself? It feels all so contrived with her, Welsh Army girl comes good - She was awful in the task and should have been fired, so Sugar turns it around and makes it about the whole series to keep her in
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She was there purely for the dead child sob story in TV terms (sorry for the cynicism).
When it became apparent she wanted to have her Devon salon who won some local newspaper award franchised all over and 'work her socks off' I had to laugh. In terms of experience and validity she was just not on par with the others; even Richard with his daft copy of his other business had something; she had nothing. It was a little pathetic to have her there in the interviews at all. She could just nod and look confused as her whole me dream was thorn to shreds. |
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Although at times pushy and abrasive, I did admire her ambition and energy.
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She was there purely for the dead child sob story in TV terms (sorry for the cynicism).
When it became apparent she wanted to have her Devon salon who won some local newspaper award franchised all over and 'work her socks off' I had to laugh. In terms of experience and validity she was just not on par with the others; even Richard with his daft copy of his other business had something; she had nothing. It was a little pathetic to have her there in the interviews at all. She could just nod and look confused as her whole me dream was thorn to shreds. she seemed completely oblivious to just how big a jump it would be from where she is now to where she wants to be and that even off the back of the publicity from this show she just doesn't have the brand name to make that happen |
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She was there purely for the dead child sob story in TV terms (sorry for the cynicism).
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any time she was challenged her stock response was "i'll work my socks off"
she seemed completely oblivious to just how big a jump it would be from where she is now to where she wants to be |
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Charleine came off well last night and, in my opinion, mostly did throughout the series. She was, ultimately, out of her depth, but she didn't make any secret of her past. I also don't understand how some people are implying she was disliked by her fellow contestants. She clashed with Selina but with the others she seemed to get along well with them on a personal level for the most part - even Richard. She was also highly thought of by Claude and Karen, despite her shortcomings, and she came away from the interviews with a lot of good spoken of her.
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In terms of experience and validity she was just not on par with the others; even Richard with his daft copy of his other business had something; she had nothing.
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Charleine came off well last night and, in my opinion, mostly did throughout the series. She was, ultimately, out of her depth, but she didn't make any secret of her past. I also don't understand how some people are implying she was disliked by her fellow contestants. She clashed with Selina but with the others she seemed to get along well with them on a personal level for the most part - even Richard. She was also highly thought of by Claude and Karen, despite her shortcomings, and she came away from the interviews with a lot of good spoken of her.
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I think those who say Charleine was generally nice are forgetting how she stabbed David in the back, tried to belittle everyone on her team in the Book task and shouted and screamed over everyone else in the boardroom, even when told not to. Throughout the whole process, she came across as someone who was totally immature and liable to fly off the handle at any moment. It was completely unprofessional.
She came across as totally deluded in last night's interviews too I thought - who would want to go to her academy as opposed to one like Toni & Guy's based on the fact she's run one small provincial salon and not even competed in hair styling shows? Her just parroting "I'll work my socks off" every time someone raised an objection shows how out of her depth and deluded she really was. Anytime she spoke she came across as totally inarticulate as ever as well. |
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Well, Charleine's gone, and I am quite upset by her exit.
She wasn't everyone's cup of tea, but she was one of the best candidates, and I'd go as far as to say she was better than Vana, simply because Vana is too abrasive (week three - but I am supporting both). The whole "dead child" story wasn't really her fault. She was asked about it and obviously wanted to bring it up, but I feel like the producers wanted her to mention it also. We never saw her interview with Claudine, which was strange to me, but they only really found one flaw with her, and that was merely that what she was proposing was too big for her. Not a criticism of her or the plan - it was just a mismatch. I think she should've stayed longer than Gary and Richard, but never mind. |
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Well, Charleine's gone, and I am quite upset by her exit.
She wasn't everyone's cup of tea, but she was one of the best candidates, and I'd go as far as to say she was better than Vana, simply because Vana is too abrasive (week three - but I am supporting both). ![]() (by the way, Charleine and Vana were watching the episode together last night) |
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Hated Charleine at the start, but loved her at the end. I felt her passion completely.
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Well, Charleine's gone, and I am quite upset by her exit.
She wasn't everyone's cup of tea, but she was one of the best candidates, and I'd go as far as to say she was better than Vana, simply because Vana is too abrasive (week three - but I am supporting both). The whole "dead child" story wasn't really her fault. She was asked about it and obviously wanted to bring it up, but I feel like the producers wanted her to mention it also. We never saw her interview with Claudine, which was strange to me, but they only really found one flaw with her, and that was merely that what she was proposing was too big for her. Not a criticism of her or the plan - it was just a mismatch. I think she should've stayed longer than Gary and Richard, but never mind. I think Claude's suggestion was right - build her business locally first. The franchise idea was a non-starter given her lack of brand and awareness - as with Joseph's original idea, what's in it for the franchisee? - but she could very well succeed in building a chain of salons. But that's something you do organically, maybe with the aid of a bank loan. It's not something you go to an investor and ask for £250k for. As you, a mismatch. An idea can be workable but still not meet the criteria for investment - and this was 100% the case with Charleine. |
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I think her original plan was way too ambitious and defied all logic - her only response as to how she would match Toni & Guy (and indeed achieve what they did faster) was that she would work her socks off. I did like her determination but in business terms she was very naive and her financial projections (£75k profit, yr 5) aren't commensurate with what someone ploughing in a £250k investment would expect.
I think Claude's suggestion was right - build her business locally first. The franchise idea was a non-starter given her lack of brand and awareness - as with Joseph's original idea, what's in it for the franchisee? - but she could very well succeed in building a chain of salons. But that's something you do organically, maybe with the aid of a bank loan. It's not something you go to an investor and ask for £250k for. As you, a mismatch. An idea can be workable but still not meet the criteria for investment - and this was 100% the case with Charleine. I think Charleine should've waited a couple of years to expand her current business or then buy another salon and continue there, and then she could've appeared more worthwhile. She was really trying to run before she could walk. He idea was workable. Charleine is a worthwhile candidate. But that's not to say they'd work well together. Quote:
LOL at the irony there I know (by the way, Charleine and Vana were watching the episode together last night) I do like Vana, but in the interviews she came across as rather cold and defensive to me. Her "I will" response seemed like a bit of an "impolite" move as to secure her place further. She didn't really have any responses to the "run out of money" questions except that she'd supposedly be making profit, which might not be the case if she did win. It seems like from weeks 4-9 she was built up as a contender only to falter at the final hurdles (oil, interviews, etc.)Nevertheless, I picked her as one of my three candidates at the beginning so I'm rooting for her to win. I'm so glad she's on the same team as Charleine as well, as she was another of my three
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When she was being put on the spot about how anyone is going to know her name, I really wanted her to say they will from the publicity of appearing on the show whether she wins or not. lol
Not sure how well that would have gone down, but at least she'd be using her momentary fame productively and not just to pose in a magazine in her underwear. |
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I think her original plan was way too ambitious and defied all logic - her only response as to how she would match Toni & Guy (and indeed achieve what they did faster) was that she would work her socks off. I did like her determination but in business terms she was very naive and her financial projections (£75k profit, yr 5) aren't commensurate with what someone ploughing in a £250k investment would expect.
I think Claude's suggestion was right - build her business locally first. The franchise idea was a non-starter given her lack of brand and awareness - as with Joseph's original idea, what's in it for the franchisee? - but she could very well succeed in building a chain of salons. But that's something you do organically, maybe with the aid of a bank loan. It's not something you go to an investor and ask for £250k for. As you, a mismatch. An idea can be workable but still not meet the criteria for investment - and this was 100% the case with Charleine. And there's a basic problem with the 250k being to small to do other than suit a few subsets of proposals, and then at high cost to the Apprentice. Joe has already expanded . Charleine has grown , and , as Luisa has pointed out Vana would do better if she copied Luisa and looked for money elsewhere - without acquiring Lord Sugars hand in their wallets. There's a show there, somewhere, too, about how many people have gone ahead and been successful with what he's turned down. Roisin, Luisa, Bianca, and Ella Jade, to name but 4, seem to have done what they offered. |
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