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Old 06-12-2015, 21:46
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Absolutely agree. They clearly wanted Anita to be in the DO
Exactly. It would serve BBC and Craig right if by fluke Anita won, which I don't think she will.
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Old 06-12-2015, 21:47
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There is reason for Anita getting through it was due to Craig giving her low mark and his comments, that got her in the semi thanks from the public
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Old 06-12-2015, 21:48
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Why not? Helen was second from bottom on the leaderboard and two have to be in the dance-off. In terms of points, it's perfectly reasonable she was one of them.

Georgia was a bit of a surprise but how often has the person right at the bottom been saved? Plenty.

So overall not that much of a shocker. When you have a series where there's so many already goods ones, you're bound to get eliminations like tonight's near the end. They can't all stay.
Exactly. The competition only started nearly 3-4 months ago. Just because some people have danced longer and might seem better, doesn't mean the person who started fro 0 and is dancing well is bad and doesn't deserve their place.
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Old 06-12-2015, 21:48
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Exactly. It would serve BBC and Craig right if by fluke Anita won, which I don't think she will.
Yes, I'm sure the BBC and Craig are quaking in their boots at such a prospect because, obviously, the winners make such a difference...
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Old 06-12-2015, 21:50
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Exactly. The competition only started nearly 3-4 months ago. Just because some people have danced longer and might seem better, doesn't mean the person who started fro 0 and is dancing well is bad and doesn't deserve their place.
Yes and anyone who starts from 0 experience and has worked hard to become a dancer like Anita has as much right if not more IMO. I also think Helen should be a lot better than she really was.
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Old 06-12-2015, 21:52
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Just didn't want to put the correct no of ****. Incase I get told off. This way I can say I meant something else. My swearing is getting bad to worse.
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Loved some of the other poster's suggestions too.
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Old 06-12-2015, 21:55
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I hope you are not comparing Anita to John Sargent. My problem with Craig is that he is a hypocrite. Georgia can make mistakes and he will never mention and give her his highest mark and Jay who had danced so well and he was pedantic and even Len got mad. Bruno is also the same will never mention her mistakes or down play them.
This is really unfair.
Err.. Separate paragraph, so no attempt at a comparison.

Just to point out what happens when the judges go a bit over the top with comments about less than able dancers.
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Old 06-12-2015, 21:56
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Yes and anyone who starts from 0 experience and has worked hard to become a dancer like Anita has as much right if not more IMO. I also think Helen should be a lot better than she really was.
True. I had rather a person from 0 win than others with previous experience. That is why it really makes me angry when these judges cuddle their favourites with past experience and abuse a person who had made such progress and is very good.
I can watch her dance.
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Old 06-12-2015, 22:00
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True. I had rather a person from 0 win than others with previous experience. That is why it really makes me angry when these judges cuddle their favourites with past experience and abuse a person who had made such progress and is very good.
I can watch her dance.
Exactly. It wouldn't hurt Craig to praise Anita for achieving so much. I too could watch Anita more than some of the others.
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Old 06-12-2015, 22:04
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He was right. He was aiming it at both of them. It's the biggest shocker of a DO for a long time and neither deserved to be there - yet.
Yes he was right - Anita was the weakest dancer over the past two weeks and Helen, up to this week, was the contestant who had accumulated tho higher scores over the previous 10 weeks. The dance off should have been between Anita and Katie IMO - but we are where we are - minus a contestant who was talented enough to be in the final - because the public voted for Anita and Katie on sympathetic and sentimental grounds

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Old 06-12-2015, 22:04
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Exactly. It wouldn't hurt Craig to praise Anita for achieving so much. I too could watch Anita more than some of the others.
I am going to vote like mad next Saturday from my landline. I hope she makes it.
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Old 06-12-2015, 22:07
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Old 06-12-2015, 22:18
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Based on the judges scores Helen actually should have been in the DO (albeit not with Georgia). So I'm not sure how Craig can blame the public for putting her there!
Exactly what I was going to say. How can Craig say she doesn't deserve to be in the bottom two when she came second bottom in the vote and he gave her an 8 compared to the 9's to Georgia, Kellie and Jay?
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Old 06-12-2015, 22:28
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Yes he was right - Anita was the weakest dancer over the past two weeks and Helen, up to this week, was the contestant who had accumulated tho higher scores over the previous 10 weeks. The dance off should have been between Anita and Katie IMO - but we are where we are - minus a contestant who was talented enough to be in the final - because the public voted for Anita and Katie on sympathetic and sentimental grounds
Yup
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Old 06-12-2015, 22:37
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Err.. Separate paragraph, so no attempt at a comparison.

Just to point out what happens when the judges go a bit over the top with comments about less than able dancers.
I was trying to point out that JS was just entertainment value and Anita is not a less than able dancer, she is a very good dancer. I vote for Anita because I like her and very proud of her achievements. As for Craig's bias, it's only putting me off one contestant.
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Old 06-12-2015, 22:46
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tonight Craig has really annoyed me for blaming the public for putting Georgia & Helen into the dance off so who does think we want in the dance off them and up the public to vote for whoever we want

Just because the Judges Favourite(sp) Georgia was in the Dance off there is no need have a go at the Viewers and there Voting habits that put her there so Craig shame on you
Well, you ridiculous voters, you should alll have kept phoning in for Georgia, then she "wouldn't have been in no dance off, no not nevah evah".

Take a look at the leaderboard and do the maths!!!
The public put Georgia into the dance off by failing to vote for her. That's how Strictly works.

Craig just says it as it is.. What you hear is what you get. You should know that by now.
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Old 06-12-2015, 22:58
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Helen and Georgia were in the dance off because the public put them there. Fact.
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Old 06-12-2015, 22:59
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tonight Craig has really annoyed me for blaming the public for putting Georgia & Helen into the dance off so who does think we want in the dance off them and up the public to vote for whoever we want

Just because the Judges Favourite(sp) Georgia was in the Dance off there is no need have a go at the Viewers and there Voting habits that put her there so Craig shame on you
I quite like Craig but not his goaty beard though.
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Old 06-12-2015, 23:04
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So now we have to watch Anita, Katie and Kellie for another week.
awesome , I'm not complaining
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Old 06-12-2015, 23:06
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So now we have to watch Anita, Katie and Kellie for another week.
No.
You don't have to.

But people are moaning about the better dancers being the in the DO and one of them leaving.
If they weren't moaning about that, they'd be moaning about something else.
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Old 06-12-2015, 23:10
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Helen and Georgia were in the dance off because the public put them there. Fact.
Craig Revel Borwood,

helped by giving Anita a 6 , he created the backlash , that helped send Georgia to the DO

what a silly muppet he is
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Old 06-12-2015, 23:19
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All I remember him saying is 'it's the public eho have put you here, not us!!) Hardly insulting the public, just stating a very true fact!!
As has already been mentioned, as long as the public keep engaging in 'tactical voting' just to keep in their favourites, shocks like tonight will happen, though let's be honest here, based solely on Saturday's performance Helen made a couple of glaring errors in a dance that was never going to be ideally suited to her so the 8 Craig gave her was hardly unfair anyway!!
Georgia should never have been anywhere near the bottom two, full stop!!
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Old 06-12-2015, 23:37
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It is not just a dance competition. It is also an entertainment show. Maybe the GBP were just not entertained by Helen. I know I wasn't. And if the BBC only want trained dancers then they shouldn't keep the competition open to novices.

All I can say is that I hope Anita is very proud of herself. Well done to her.
Obviously it was a bit rude of Craig to say that and makes him look stupid when Helen was (deservedly) in the bottom 2 from the judges anyway. I also suspect Anita gained some sympathy or annoyed votes because of the harshness. In some ways the best thing the judges have done for her is so regularly undermark her (relative to others) and pick holes while letting others off. Katie has also benefited from some harsh comments especially early on. I think the people who vote are often motivated by what they see as unfairness.

I agree with the above post. I don't care about the technical side of the dancing as much (a bit but not as much as some). Especially when you see some of them doing moves like slick solo spins that so clearly show that they have notable previous training (e.g. Jay and Georgia). Ultimately I mostly base my opinion on who I enjoy watching most, with maybe their personality playing a part (I don't vote incidentally). Of those left the two who I have generally not enjoyed watching are Helen and Georgia. So tonight was the perfect scenario for me. I suspect Georgia will get a DO bounce now though and still think she could win. I wouldn't be that bothered if she did but it would feel a bit meh, like when Abbey and Caroline won.

Helen I found a bit awkward when not doing ballroom (her Charleston was maybe the worst I have seen) and her Paso was awful. Georgia is good but I just find her boring. The weird thing with Helen was that she is an actress yet often acted the dances very badly. Her Paso face was rather cringey. The one who acts the dances best (despite not being an actress) is Anita in my opinion. I always enjoy watching her and appreciate the zero experience aspect. I would like to see Jay, Anita, Katie, and Kellie in the final with Anita winning. It's all just different opinions and people enjoying the show for different reasons.
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Old 06-12-2015, 23:45
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According to their scoring these are who they felt should be bottom 2:
Craig: Anita and either Katie/Helen.
Darcy: Helen and Anita
Len: any 2 of Helen/Katie/Kellie/Anita/Georgia.
Bruno: Anita plus one of Georgia/Kellie/Katie/Helen.

All the judges had Helen as bottom 2 potential and 50% of them Georgia.
If they can't make their minds up, don't have a go at the voters!
A brilliant analysis! So all the judges had Helen bottom-two-scores and yet two of them claimed she shouldn't be in the bottom two. Oh dear oh dear oh dear!
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Old 06-12-2015, 23:45
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Craig Revel Borwood,

helped by giving Anita a 6 , he created the backlash , that helped send Georgia to the DO

what a silly muppet he is
Well, I never thought he was the sharpest knife in the box, he seemed a bit too keen to get Anita in the bottom two. Maybe she deserved to be there, but by being so harsh with his comments, he failed.
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