BIB I really don't see why this is so hard to get. Half of the reason anyone ends up in any position is based on the judges' marks. So whether someone ends up in the DO or not is 50% judges and 50% voters. In this case it also happened to be that even the judges had Helen bottom 2, so in the DO.

Also people who do vote are saving dancers. Voters don't choose to put someone in the DO at all. They choose to keep someone out of it. If there were only 2 dancers the 2 types of voting system (save or eject) would amount to the same thing but there are 6 (or were). I doubt many people will have voted for 4 different dancers when there are only 6 left. If someone voted Anita they saved Anita. That is all they did. If Georgia went from 2nd to last 2 it was because people didn't vote for her (note that is not an action) or the people who might vote for her don't exist.

It's so straightforward. Voters save people, they do not put anyone in the DO, they potentially keep people out of it. Whoever ends up at the bottom is a side-effect and not any specific voter's choice. In fact the way it works for the judges they could more reasonably be seen as putting people in the bottom of the board as they mark everyone. Voters will often have voted for just one person, and not the person who ends up last.

If you vote to keep someone out of the dance-off, you are effectively helping putting someone in, you know shouldn't be there!

At this stage, no one should be there; but unfortunately someone has to go.

I normally vote for who I like.

...and then the voter wonders in perplexed horror how it has come to pass that his/her favourite has been voted off.

More than once in interviews & blogs CRH has stated who he would like to see in the Final.
Is it the public fault that the viewing public doesn't agree with him.

If CRH had his way he would do away with the public vote and leave it up to the Judges who is in the dance off and who should be eliminated.

It's the BBC's flagship light entertainment show, emphasis on entertainment, We the voting public vote on who entertains us and NO ONE has the right to tell us who we should or should not vote for

so you are blaming me for using all my votes and voted for Anita, who is my favourite Celeb now Jeremy has gone ?

What do you want me to do vote for a Celeb who's dancing does not entertain me ?

Who should I have voted for Doghouse ?

Same here. And I think, the crux of the matter is why we like whom we like.

At first I was shocked at Craig's (blatantly ludicrous) comment... but the more I've thought about it, the funnier it gets...

He was, essentially, saying to them both, the one thing that the celebrity contestants must dread more than anything else, ie:

"Although us 4 fudges think you're great, I'm afraid you just aren't popular (enough, if at all) with the British public. Simple as that!"

Gumede, Van Outen, Stevens, Snowden, Whittle, Webbe, Andre, etc, etc - they've all had to swallow the same sad fact.

Actually, I thought Helen handled it rather well. Smug Georgia, somewhat less so...

Well I'm sorry but I think it's just as obvious the other way!! If someone is going to give 20 votes to a dancer who is not as good simply because they like him/her (as I accept is their right if that's what they want to do) then obviously that is going to mean a better dancer will probably end up in the dance off!! That's fine, but the judges are there to judge who is the best dancer not who is the more likable or entertaining person, therefore when a contestant who has been consistently good all series suddenly ends up in the dance off due to this sort of tactical voting, the judges have every right to comment on it imo!!

Absolutely agree.

I have never read any of his blogs. Could you please share the names. I think judges should not be allowed write in a blog who would they like in the final. That is so ridiculous.
am sure Team GG must be on it.

Jay
Georgia
Helen
Kellie

Thanks. I am surprised BBC allows judges tom say these things. Very biased.

Ooh. I didn't know Tunbridge Wells was in Staffs?

If someone wants to vote 20 times for a celeb its their prerogative. Maybe some one just didn't think that Anita was a bad dancer. I for one think she is good on the limited experience and knowledge of dancing she has. I would have expected someone like Helen to be better than she was. So I don't think she was a better dancer. But someone else might think differently. Helen didn't entertain me in the least and that is why I didn't vote for her. The judges don't always judge partially. Each to their own.

So what you are saying is that people should vote for who YOU want to see in the final (i.e. the most competent dancers) rather than who THEY may want to see? And that if people put their desires ahead of yours that you somehow have a right to be angry at them???

Well, sorry, but I'd rather see Katie and Anita dance in the final than Kellie or Helen. I don't care if they're less technically competent, they are who *I* prefer to watch dance, so they are who I vote for. Just as millions of other people vote for *their* favourites. Because that's what we're meant to do.

If you look round the threads, particularly those criticising Gleb, i think you will find I agree with you about him & Anita!! I always enjoy watching their dances even though she isn't as technically proficient as the others but that is not what this thread is about!! It's about whether Craig had the right to make the comment that "it's the public who put you two in the dance off not me!" & I believe he did for the reasons I've already given!! I don't believe he would have made the same comment had it been Anita in the dance off with Helen simply because they were probably the two least proficient performers on the night in
terms of getting their dance right, and that is the reason he's on the show, to judge dance
ability!!

Tis probably that the Judges recall Katie in The Conductor programme.. when against Perkins.. replying to criticism of her with..
" I came here for a Laugh YOU HAVE MADE ME CRY"
and we can't have that can we?

I know what you are saying but the cynic in my says he is biased and doesn't always judge on danceability or the dance.

Couldn't have put it better myself

Some kind of superstar

Sorry I couldn't resist a bit of Spice Girls

Haven't really got an answer for that bornfree!!

The ones I feel sorry for is Anita & Katie.
How do you think they felt hearing CRH outburst. It must have been obvious to them that CRH meant one of them or both should have been in the DO.

CRH must have spoiled their evening, after hearing they're through to the semi finals & then hearing CRH didn't want them there