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Georgia and Giovanni
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edy10
07-12-2015
Last Saturday, I think that Katie won the battle of the foxtrot. I much preferred hers.
I like team GG . On merit, they should definitely be in the finals and I think that they will.She can beat any of the women left in the dance-off .

I think that they may be a lot of people 2nd or 3rd favourites. At least, they were my 3rd favorites.

I still think that Anita and Jay will be the last 2 standings. However, stranger things have happened in the finale. Personally, if Jay doesnt win, I would like it to be Anita, then Georgia, then Katie.

With the public though, I think that out of all the women left, Anita is the huge favorite; then Katie then Georgia and Kellie. I dont see it changing.
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Kitty_Martinez
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by Agent Krycek:
“Being northern is about all I can think of”

That just about sums it up for me. She may be a lovely girl but before I can care about her progress towards the glitterball I need to engage with her and nothing I've seen so far has made me do that.

I would like some indication of personality; for example, does she have a wicked sense of humour, fierce intellect, deep concern for the environment, keen interest in stamp collectin, inexplicable aversion to Greek yogurt etc etc? It really doesn't need to be much, just something to spark my interest in her.

Until I see that, she's just another pretty girl who has performed some nice enough dances and that's not enough to make me vote for her.
Agent Krycek
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by Kitty_Martinez:
“That just about sums it up for me. She may be a lovely girl but before I can care about her progress towards the glitterball I need to engage with her and nothing I've seen so far has made me do that.

I would like some indication of personality; for example, does she have a wicked sense of humour, fierce intellect, deep concern for the environment, keen interest in stamp collectin, inexplicable aversion to Greek yogurt etc etc? It really doesn't need to be much, just something to spark my interest in her.

Until I see that, she's just another pretty girl who has performed some nice enough dances and that's not enough to make me vote for her.”

She likes black pudding if that helps?
humpty dumpty
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by Kitty_Martinez:
“That just about sums it up for me. She may be a lovely girl but before I can care about her progress towards the glitterball I need to engage with her and nothing I've seen so far has made me do that.

I would like some indication of personality; for example, does she have a wicked sense of humour, fierce intellect, deep concern for the environment, keen interest in stamp collectin, inexplicable aversion to Greek yogurt etc etc? It really doesn't need to be much, just something to spark my interest in her.

Until I see that, she's just another pretty girl who has performed some nice enough dances and that's not enough to make me vote for her.”

Admitedly I don't know much about her fierce intellect or her stamp collections, but I can't say I know more about Jay, Anita or Katies interests or wild side of their personalities either. Its quite difficult seeing as most questions are geared towards how they feel about the dance, what dance is coming up, what is she finding difficult in the dance etc. Background interests don't really come up. I've heard pretty much the same responses from them all.

She comes across as warm and friendly to me, driven, hardworking but laid back enough to have fun and giggles in training. Able to connect with other people not similar in age and interests to her (Jeremy got on very well with her and wanted her to win) Not that I don't find Anita and the rest with some similar characteristics, but I certainly haven't seen anything much more from them - and just because Georgias young and blessed with good looks, it doesn't mean that she will automatically take the 'less to offer in personality' role as I don't think shes provided anything less than the others.

She doesn't have a highlighted story (Jay with his nerves, Anita with her strict teacher but no dance ability, Katie with the partner who is about to retire and would love to win the thing - but that has got nothing to do with the others shining in their personalities over hers.
edy10
07-12-2015
Why do a lot of Georgia fans here seem to be certain that Jay will win I dont get it. It could very well be Anita or Katie and Anton ( if they get to the finale).
Nothing is set in stone YET imo.
spider9
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“Admitedly I don't know much about her fierce intellect or her stamp collections, but I can't say I know more about Jay, Anita or Katies interests or wild side of their personalities either. Its quite difficult seeing as most questions are geared towards how they feel about the dance, what dance is coming up, what is she finding difficult in the dance etc. Background interests don't really come up. I've heard pretty much the same responses from them all.

She comes across as warm and friendly to me, driven, hardworking but laid back enough to have fun and giggles in training. Able to connect with other people not similar in age and interests to her (Jeremy got on very well with her and wanted her to win) Not that I don't find Anita and the rest with some similar characteristics, but I certainly haven't seen anything much more from them - and just because Georgias young and blessed with good looks, it doesn't mean that she will automatically take the 'less to offer in personality' role as I don't think shes provided anything less than the others.

She doesn't have a highlighted story (Jay with his nerves, Anita with her strict teacher but no dance ability, Katie with the partner who is about to retire and would love to win the thing - she has a new pro who shes bonded brilliantly with both on and off the dancefloor - but that has nothing to do with personality.”

I suppose that the difference having a bit of an interest in someone makes. Even before the show started I'd picked up that Jay had a sense of humour and an interest in the world around him (he's wasn't unique in that, I know). I knew and liked a bit about Helen beforehand from twitter as well.

I've started paying more attention to Georgia when she's interviewed lately and she really doesn't give anything away.
Tulip19
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by sydrob:
“They were at a disadvantage dancing first with a "nice" dance. The only thing that made it stand out was the teapot. I too find them, most of the time, forgettable. I do remember their tango, charleston and samba, her standout dances for me, in a good way. I like her, she's a good all rounder, but I won't be voting for her. I prefer Katie & Kellie above her.”

The blooming teapot!

I thought it was a real shame, as they danced a technically proficient -and nice, as you say - foxtrot. Bit gutted for them.
Everlong Girl
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“Admitedly I don't know much about her fierce intellect or her stamp collections, but I can't say I know more about Jay, Anita or Katies interests or wild side of their personalities either. Its quite difficult seeing as most questions are geared towards how they feel about the dance, what dance is coming up, what is she finding difficult in the dance etc. Background interests don't really come up. I've heard pretty much the same responses from them all.

She comes across as warm and friendly to me, driven, hardworking but laid back enough to have fun and giggles in training. Able to connect with other people not similar in age and interests to her (Jeremy got on very well with her and wanted her to win) Not that I don't find Anita and the rest with some similar characteristics, but I certainly haven't seen anything much more from them - and just because Georgias young and blessed with good looks, it doesn't mean that she will automatically take the 'less to offer in personality' role as I don't think shes provided anything less than the others.

She doesn't have a highlighted story (Jay with his nerves, Anita with her strict teacher but no dance ability, Katie with the partner who is about to retire and would love to win the thing - she has a new pro who shes bonded brilliantly with both on and off the dancefloor - but that has nothing to do with personality.”

I agree I'm not sure what personality really has to so with it given that Jay, Anita and Katie aren't exactly overflowing with them. The only one who seems to give a lot of personality (and me me me factor) is Kellie - but given she's on Eastenders it's to be expected as they seem to love to talk!

I don't see why anyone has to have a 'story' - if I want to watch a 'story' I'll watch The X Factor. Instead I watch Strictly because I want to see some decent/good/excellent dancing.

I can however understand when people feel there's no edge to Georgia and Giovanni because to me they both just come across as hardworking, friendly people and I guess that could come across as forgettable. And like you mentioned - Jay + nerves, Anita + no previous training, Katie + OAP Anton and Kellie pushes herself forward to be noticed and maybe that's why she helps choose some not flattering dresses - so she's remembered! They all have something that makes people remember them (good or bad)
Tulip19
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by Agent Krycek:
“Being northern is about all I can think of”

Ha! She's northern, and he's Italian, did we mention that?

As a story line goes, it's pretty weak compared to the others, and they also seemed to stop pushing it after the first few weeks (thankfully, as it got annoying).
Tulip19
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“Interesting to hear people's opinions. Though I certainly wouldn't describe her as "forgettable" or "dull", I'd argue that she is simply more reserved and understated than other celebs. Interestingly those are character traits which she shares with Jay which makes it harder to understand the discrepancy between the two fan bases.”

It's a gender thing, probably. Jay inspires protectiveness
spider9
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by Everlong Girl:
“I agree I'm not sure what personality really has to so with it given that Jay, Anita and Katie aren't exactly overflowing with them. The only one who seems to give a lot of personality (and me me me factor) is Kellie - but given she's on Eastenders it's to be expected as they seem to love to talk!

I don't see why anyone has to have a 'story' - if I want to watch a 'story' I'll watch The X Factor. Instead I watch Strictly because I want to see some decent/good/excellent dancing.

I can however understand when people feel there's no edge to Georgia and Giovanni because to me they both just come across as hardworking, friendly people and I guess that could come across as forgettable. And like you mentioned - Jay + nerves, Anita + no previous training, Katie + OAP Anton and Kellie pushes herself forward to be noticed and maybe that's why she helps choose some not flattering dresses - so she's remembered! They all have something that makes people remember them (good or bad)”

Everyone has a personality, it's just whether that chimes with you or not.
Brian_Grahams
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by Tulip19:
“It's a gender thing, probably. Jay inspires protectiveness ”

I think you're on to something there, and it's not something I'd be able to recognise!
edy10
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by Alli-F:
“You're never going to understand what I see, I'm never going to understand what you see, it's why it's subjective. I did say a tad dull, i don't think she's even reserved, she's just very... expected is the word I want to use.

I think we need to differentiate between Georgia the person and Georgia's dances. Georgia is LOVELY, the perfect Strictly contestant, hard working, joyful, loving it, good, fun and generally a trouper.

It's a lot of Georgia's dances that many find dull. I can't remember a single Georgia dance apart from the charleston and the tango and i only remember that because of the green goop in her hair. I think, as I'm watching her, oh that was lovely, then goes straight out of my head.

I do find she's the celeb lots of people forget about when they're listing those left. I do, I have to remember Giovanni to remember Georgia. No-one is saying she's awful, she's just very good and sometimes you need to be awful or brilliant to be remembered.

sorry for the ramble ”

BIB Yes. Consistency is not always the key.
humpty dumpty
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by spider9:
“Everyone has a personality, it's just whether that chimes with you or not.”

Quite
humpty dumpty
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by Everlong Girl:
“I agree I'm not sure what personality really has to so with it given that Jay, Anita and Katie aren't exactly overflowing with them. The only one who seems to give a lot of personality (and me me me factor) is Kellie - but given she's on Eastenders it's to be expected as they seem to love to talk!

I don't see why anyone has to have a 'story' - if I want to watch a 'story' I'll watch The X Factor. Instead I watch Strictly because I want to see some decent/good/excellent dancing.

I can however understand when people feel there's no edge to Georgia and Giovanni because to me they both just come across as hardworking, friendly people and I guess that could come across as forgettable. And like you mentioned - Jay + nerves, Anita + no previous training, Katie + OAP Anton and Kellie pushes herself forward to be noticed and maybe that's why she helps choose some not flattering dresses - so she's remembered! They all have something that makes people remember them (good or bad)”

Yep, and its all subjective. However given the confines of the TV interviews that they've had, I've seen nothing remarkable from the others that puts Georgias personality in the shade. As you say the memorable things with the others are more to do with their story related to their partner or a characteristic that has made fans feel protective and loving towards them as opposed to a dramatic personality overshining the rest.

She has a partner who she gets on really well with, dances really well with, works very hard with (as is evidenced by her finished result). For a young thing she is clearly driven and hardworking and can achieve her goals. I find that admirable. I find her warm, friendly and approachable and laid back enough to have a laugh at herself. And given the restrictions of her interview, don't really expect much more from her - I don't need her to be a candidate for the entertainer of the day to be honest. the qualities in her personality I see in her are more than enough - and not lacking in comparison to the others.

But I'm not supporting her for her intrests or witty humour anyway...I support her for her dancing and performance and partnership (synchronicity on the dancefloor) and consistency of good dances.
Nina_Blake
07-12-2015
Georgia is one of the only contestants whose dances I have remembered well. Her tango, Charleston, samba and quickstep all stood out for me.

I remember Anita's Paso, Charleston and Tango well. Another memorable performer to me.

I remember Katie's VW and Tango, but very few others.

I remember Jay's Jive and Tango, but struggle to picture in my head what the other ballrooms and Latins look like. A blur to me.

I remember Kellie's Samba, but very few others.
Everlong Girl
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by spider9:
“Everyone has a personality, it's just whether that chimes with you or not.”

Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“Quite”

Personally I don't really care if they're got a personality or not, I just want to see great dancing and see if they can sell the dance they're doing.

I would hardly say some of the previous winners were overflowing with personality.
Nina_Blake
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by Everlong Girl:
“Personally I don't really care if they're got a personality or not, I just want to see great dancing and see if they can sell the dance they're doing.

I would hardly say some of the previous winners were overflowing with personality.”

I adore how effusive she is in appreciation for good marks and for getting through the the next stage. She is clearly genuinely delighted to be there, and that certainly sticks in my mind.
Everlong Girl
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“Yep, and its all subjective. However given the confines of the TV interviews that they've had, I've seen nothing remarkable from the others that puts Georgias personality in the shade. As you say the memorable things with the others are more to do with their story related to their partner or a characteristic that has made fans feel protective and loving towards them as opposed to a dramatic personality overshining the rest.

She has a partner who she gets on really well with, dances really well with, works very hard with (as is evidenced by her finished result). For a young thing she is clearly driven and hardworking and can achieve her goals. I find that admirable. I find her warm, friendly and approachable and laid back enough to have a laugh at herself. And given the restrictions of her interview, don't really expect much more from her - I don't need her to be a candidate for the entertainer of the day to be honest. the qualities in her personality I see in her are more than enough - and not lacking in comparison to the others.

But I'm not supporting her for her intrests or witty humour anyway...I support her for her dancing and performance and partnership (synchronicity on the dancefloor) and consistency of good dances.”

BIB - They too are my reasons for supporting her and Giovanni. You just said it much better than me
spider9
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by Everlong Girl:
“Personally I don't really care if they're got a personality or not, I just want to see great dancing and see if they can sell the dance they're doing.

I would hardly say some of the previous winners were overflowing with personality.”

I'm glad that way works for you, and many others, but as I said upthread it doesn't work for me. I need to have something to spark my interest rather than trying to differentiate between 15 dances that are much of a muchness.
humpty dumpty
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by spider9:
“I'm glad that way works for you, and many others, but as I said upthread it doesn't work for me. I need to have something to spark my interest rather than trying to differentiate between 15 dances that are much of a muchness.”

Thats fair enough, for some of us the dances and performances and chemistry on the dancefloor do stand out and its easy to differentiate. I can understand though why personality plays a part.....but assessment of it is just like interpretation of a good performance in dancing, purely subjective. I don't think any of them have stood out much more than the other in terms of 'personality'.....more that I think their individual attributes and characteristics will appeal to some more than others.
humpty dumpty
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by Everlong Girl:
“BIB - They too are my reasons for supporting her and Giovanni. You just said it much better than me ”

Thank you, but I'm sure you would have said the same had you been given the chance... its just the truth about what we like
spider9
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“Thats fair enough, but thats just like interpretation of a good performance in dancing, purely subjective. I don't think any of them have stood out much more in terms of 'personality'.....more that I think their individual attributes and characteristics will appeal to some more than others.”

I agree entirely. My reasons for voting for who I vote for are no more valid than others for voting for who they vote for.

The OP did ask for opinions about Georgia and on the whole people have been honest, and respectful, about their reasons.
SepangBlue
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“That BIB resonates with me. I don't dislike Georgia, I just find her forgettable.”

Reading right through this long thread it's clear that you're not alone in your sentiments here, which really surprises me. Have people already forgotten her fabulous Charleston the other week .. quite the best Charleston of this series and anything but forgettable!
ruby-tuesday
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by -Sid-:
“On a couple of occasions Georgia's had the same Ballroom dances as Katie (AS at Blackpool and Musicals Foxtrot). She danced better both times but stylistically I much prefered Katie's more sophisticated routines to Georgia's princessy ones. So it comes down to taste and her Ballroom's not my cup of tea - however good her topline and footwork might be. Of all Georgia's dances, the one that vaguely excited me was her Samba so if she makes the final (and I suspect she'll get a strong bounce-back vote next week to ensure she does), I hope that's the judges pick.”

Sid *waves* I haven't crossed posts with you for ages ... and where is Ignazio maybe Katie's more sophisticated routines are do to with the fact that Anton is the King of Ballroom and Georgia's princessy routine on Saturday was because of the theme chosen for her and Giovanni ... I am a huge fan of Team GG and loved their samba, which had nothing to do with Giovanni's hips

I do hope you're right in saying she'll get a strong bounce back vote as I'd love to see them in the final

Originally Posted by edy10:
“Why do a lot of Georgia fans here seem to be certain that Jay will win I dont get it. It could very well be Anita or Katie and Anton ( if they get to the finale).
Nothing is set in stone YET imo.”

hi edy ... I've never been certain that Jay will win, although I know he's got enough fans to sink a ship, but anything could happen before the final

Originally Posted by Tulip19:
“It's a gender thing, probably. Jay inspires protectiveness ”

what do you think he needs protecting from as a 25 year old man, he certainly doesn't inspire that in me
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