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Has Justin Bieber really got EIGHT singles in the UK Top 40 ??
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JasonWatkins
07-12-2015
Now I know I don't really follow the charts that much any more, but i'm just looking here ..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/singles

.. and he's at 1, 2, 4, 17, 30, 37, 39 and 40 ..

Surely this has to be an error ?

#edit

apparently it's true ..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34879720
MTUK1
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by JasonWatkins:
“Now I know I don't really follow the charts that much any more, but i'm just looking here ..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/singles

.. and he's at 1, 2, 4, 17, 30, 37, 39 and 40 ..

Surely this has to be an error ?

#edit

apparently it's true ..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34879720”

Those belibers love streaming their man.
mgvsmith
07-12-2015
Everything seems to be Adele and Beiber at the moment....
JasonWatkins
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“Those belibers love streaming their man.”

Fair play to them I suppose. Just threw me a bit really - I'm of the era that thought Adam and the Ants having 3 songs in the charts was impressive
AdzPower
07-12-2015
Cringe.
Hitstastic
07-12-2015
To be honest, I think had Adele allowed XL to put her album on Spotify when it was released, I reckon all 11 tracks from 25 would've made the top 40 in that first week.

Obviously with Justin Bieber also in the mix, both Justin Bieber and Adele would've potentially had half of the top 40 between them.

Also it's worth noting that Justin Bieber has released a music video for every track off his album, and the music channels are playing all of them. So increased airplay from MTV, Chart Show TV, Starz TV etc...is definitely helping him stay high up on the streaming chart, hence having multiple entries in the official chart.

I think about 70% of "sales" now come from streaming whilst the remaining 30% comes from paid for downloads.
intoxication
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by JasonWatkins:
“Fair play to them I suppose. Just threw me a bit really - I'm of the era that thought Adam and the Ants having 3 songs in the charts was impressive ”

I would have thought more of a big deal would be made of this, the article said it was the highest number any artist has had in a chart simultaneously, I'm not sure what the record was before but eight at one time seems astounding.
intoxication
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by Hitstastic:
“To be honest, I think had Adele allowed XL to put her album on Spotify when it was released, I reckon all 11 tracks from 25 would've made the top 40 in that first week.

Obviously with Justin Bieber also in the mix, both Justin Bieber and Adele would've potentially had half of the top 40 between them.

Also it's worth noting that Justin Bieber has released a music video for every track off his album, and the music channels are playing all of them. So increased airplay from MTV, Chart Show TV, Starz TV etc...is definitely helping him stay high up on the streaming chart, hence having multiple entries in the official chart.

I think about 70% of "sales" now come from streaming whilst the remaining 30% comes from paid for downloads.”

I haven't kept up with charts for ages - does that mean that every time a music video is played on a music channel he gets a "sale"? If so I am far less impressed with this feat than I was in my post above!
Hitstastic
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by intoxication:
“I haven't kept up with charts for ages - does that mean that every time a music video is played on a music channel he gets a "sale"? If so I am far less impressed with this feat than I was in my post above!”

LOL. No!!!

...but in America YouTube views do count towards their US Billboard chart - it's the reason why Harlem Shake spent 9 weeks at #1 there because of all those 30 second viral videos being uploaded on a minutely basis. Absolute joke!!!

Hopefully that will never happen in the UK as it doesn't represent anything. Or well, maybe Adele's Hello would've spent an eternity at #1 in the UK, and seeing as I love that song, maybe it would be a good thing. lol
c4ll3mw
07-12-2015
I used to really dislike Bieber but credit to him I really like his new music and I know he can act like a prat but also seen some interviews where he has been great (especially the carpool karaoke ones)

By anyone's standards 8 songs in top 40 is an achievement

Love him or loathe him he's got a huge fan base, personally I'd rather listen to 8 of his songs than 8 of Adele, man she depresses me! Makes Morrisey lol like a barrel of laughs.
JasonWatkins
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by intoxication:
“I would have thought more of a big deal would be made of this, the article said it was the highest number any artist has had in a chart simultaneously, I'm not sure what the record was before but eight at one time seems astounding.”

Exactly. It's quite an incredible feat whoever the artist is so it certainly should have been publicised a lot more.
Chris1964
07-12-2015
Originally Posted by Hitstastic:
“To be honest, I think had Adele allowed XL to put her album on Spotify when it was released, I reckon all 11 tracks from 25 would've made the top 40 in that first week.

Obviously with Justin Bieber also in the mix, both Justin Bieber and Adele would've potentially had half of the top 40 between them.

Also it's worth noting that Justin Bieber has released a music video for every track off his album, and the music channels are playing all of them. So increased airplay from MTV, Chart Show TV, Starz TV etc...is definitely helping him stay high up on the streaming chart, hence having multiple entries in the official chart.

I think about 70% of "sales" now come from streaming whilst the remaining 30% comes from paid for downloads.”

Makes an absolute mockery of modern chart statistics. In effect there isn't really a singles chart anymore where all of Biebers songs are perpetually available. Clearly the guy has a fanatical fanbase, the difference is that they don't rush out and buy one piece of vinyl or a cd-they sit at home and download/view multiple times over a whole range at will. Its a different world and not a satisfactory one imo.
Saturn
07-12-2015
It's a farce. The streams should be counting towards the album if anything.
Zeus555
08-12-2015
I'm not a Justin Bieber Fan, but he's done several impressive things in the
UK Singles Chart, in the past few Weeks.

1).... In the Week Ending 26th November Singles Chart, he had 18 Tracks in the
Top 100. The most that any still living Act has ever had. (Michael Jackson had
more in July 2009, but that was because he'd died).

2)... On W/E 26th November, Justin had 8 Tracks in the Top 40, & the next Week
he had 9 Tracks in the Top 40.

3)... It was the most ever by a still living Act. Elvis Presley had 7 Top 30 Hits in
2 Charts in 1957. The Chart was only a Top 30 at that time.

4)... Justin has had 3 Top 5 Hits for 2 Weeks running. It is the first time that an
Act has had 3 Hits in the same Top 4 since Frankie Laine achieved it in 1953.
He did it for 2 Weeks also.

5)... But Justin's 3 Top 4 Hits had him at 1, 2 & 4 - the first Artist to achieve it
with 2 of the 3 Top 4 Hits at 1 & 2. (Frankie Laine's best Week was 1, 3 & 4, on
Week Ending 24th October 1953).

6)... Justin's 3 simultaneous Top 5 Hits make him the first Act to manage that
since John Lennon, in January 1981. John Lennon had 1 Week where he was
at 1, 2 & 5 & another where he was at 1, 3 & 5.

7)... Last Friday, (4th December), Justin replaced himself at No.1 in the UK Singles
Chart, when 'Love Yourself' rose from 2 to 1 & 'Sorry' fell from 1 to 2. The UK Singles
Chart began in November 1952, & Justin is only the 4th Act to manage to replace
himself at No.1. The other 3 were - The Beatles, (December 1963), John Lennon,
(January 1981), & Elvis Presley, (January 2005). Which makes Justin only the 2nd
still living Act to achieve it. The Beatles being the 1st.

8)... When Justin achieved it, he became the only Act to manage it with a
straight swap between No.2 & No.1. The other 3 Artists did it this way -
The Beatles - 10 to 1 & 1 to 2, John Lennon - 2 to 1 & 1 to 4, & Elvis Presley
- New in at No.1 & 1 to 10.
Neil_N
08-12-2015
Streaming has made a joke of the singles chart, and I think it now moved to a Friday afternoon with low-key fanfare sums up how much people care. Should be a put a virus on it's avid fanbases computers
Dopple
08-12-2015
A bad joke
Thom001
08-12-2015
Originally Posted by Neil_N:
“Streaming has made a joke of the singles chart, and I think it now moved to a Friday afternoon with low-key fanfare sums up how much people care. Should be a put a virus on it's avid fanbases computers ”

The reason why the singles chart moved from a Sunday to a Friday was to acknowledge the new global release date for new music releases that came into effect in the summer of this year.

I do know that until recently, album and single releases would come out in the Republic of the Ireland three days before they became legally available here in the UK. This was down to the fact that they did this on a Friday in Ireland.
Smudged
08-12-2015
OMG these statistics are incredible. What he's doing is unprecedented, not even the Beatles (who we can definitely start comparing him to now) managed what he's achieving at the moment. It shows Beiber's a unique artist and although he's a one-off, other artists should try to copy his style and approach to music as it would definitely improve the state of popular music.
Peter the Great
08-12-2015
Originally Posted by Smudged:
“OMG these statistics are incredible. What he's doing is unprecedented, not even the Beatles (who we can definitely start comparing him to now) managed what he's achieving at the moment. It shows Beiber's a unique artist and although he's a one-off, other artists should try to copy his style and approach to music as it would definitely improve the state of popular music.”

Improve the state of popular music? You are having a laugh? It is the likes of Bieber that is destroying it.
The big difference between The Beatles and Bieber is not only did The Beatles have credibility but they appealed to a wide audience. And that is exactly the problem with the current charts they don't appeal to a wide audience. All big artists in the past appealed to a wide demographic whether it was Elvis, Bowie or Oasis. Other than 14 year old year girls who listens to Justin Bieber?
Smudged
08-12-2015
Originally Posted by Peter the Great:
“Improve the state of popular music? You are having a laugh? It is the likes of Bieber that is destroying it.
The big difference between The Beatles and Bieber is not only did The Beatles have credibility but they appealed to a wide audience. And that is exactly the problem with the current charts they don't appeal to a wide audience. All big artists in the past appealed to a wide demographic whether it was Elvis, Bowie or Oasis. Other than 14 year old year girls who listens to Justin Bieber?”

FACT is, Beiber's achieving things no other artist had managed ever, the numbers don't lie. He must be appealing to ALL AGES to be breaking these records, there's no other explanation. Less successful artists could definitely learn a thing or two from him about how to make quality music.
Peter the Great
08-12-2015
Originally Posted by Smudged:
“FACT is, Beiber's achieving things no other artist had managed ever, the numbers don't lie. He must be appealing to ALL AGES to be breaking these records, there's no other explanation. Less successful artists could definitely learn a thing or two from him about how to make quality music.”

Er there is an explanation. Since streaming and downloads only music appealing to a certain audience makes the Top 40. If you think Bieber appeals to a wide demographic you are in cloud cuckoo land. If you asked most people that aren't girls under the age of 14 to name a Justin Bieber song most probably couldn't .
Aura101
08-12-2015
Justin's new album is great pop . .
Though on the subject of streaming I think there should be a entirely separate chart
floozie_21
08-12-2015
Well this 30 year old woman and her 29 year old boyfriend have been repeating Biebers album on Spotify non-stop the past couple of weeks! It's a great little album and I NEVER thought I would listen to a Justin Bieber album.
Hitstastic
08-12-2015
Originally Posted by Smudged:
“OMG these statistics are incredible. What he's doing is unprecedented, not even the Beatles (who we can definitely start comparing him to now) managed what he's achieving at the moment. It shows Beiber's a unique artist and although he's a one-off, other artists should try to copy his style and approach to music as it would definitely improve the state of popular music.”

I'm not so sure about that.

Whilst it's all incredibly good achievements wise, there is surely no doubt that the record company have invested millions into the Purpose era. To release a brand new album and have music videos for all those songs rarely happens.

Beyonce did the same thing with her self titled fifth studio album...but hardly any of those songs had commercial appeal. Whereas most of the songs on Purpose actually are very commercial - and commercial radio friendly music appeals to a wider audience.

However, to say other artists should copy Justin is laughable. Why? Because these other artists won't have the financial support of their record company to make it plausible.
mgvsmith
08-12-2015
Originally Posted by Smudged:
“OMG these statistics are incredible. What he's doing is unprecedented, not even the Beatles (who we can definitely start comparing him to now) managed what he's achieving at the moment. It shows Beiber's a unique artist and although he's a one-off, other artists should try to copy his style and approach to music as it would definitely improve the state of popular music.”

I sense a degree of sarcasm as there is another artist, a certain Ms Adkins, who is receiving all sorts of plaudits for her chart achievements.

I'm currently more interested in D'Angelo and The Vanguard's 'Black Messiah' and Kendrick Lamar's 'To Pimp a Butterfly' which tell us a bit more bout the current quality of popular music.
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