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predict semi finals Week 12 highest score lowest score bottom 2 and elimination
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katt
09-12-2015
so tricky now!

I will give it a go

Top
Jay and Aliona OR Georgia and Giovanni

Bottom
Anita and Gleb

Dance Off
Kellie and Kevin & Katie and Anton

Eliminated
Katie and Anton
JohnStannard
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by strictlylicious:
“Hi John. On the Strictly forum there are certain people who have posted up a certain thread for years and normally people use that thread rather than duplicate threads. I have been posting this thread up for years now. Normally I post it up when the week's dances are revealed. You beat me to it last night. By all means put up your own thread but I will continue to post my thread up ”

Hey wasn't aware of that, that some people like to put it up every week. Wouldn't have put one up If I knew. Sorry leave I shall leave it to you since you've been here longer than me.
Mystical123
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by strictlylicious:
“Hi John. On the Strictly forum there are certain people who have posted up a certain thread for years and normally people use that thread rather than duplicate threads. I have been posting this thread up for years now. Normally I post it up when the week's dances are revealed. You beat me to it last night. By all means put up your own thread but I will continue to post my thread up ”

Why on earth should anyone have a monopoly on starting a thread?
Alli-F
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“Why on earth should anyone have a monopoly on starting a thread? ”



I know, I thought forum etiquette was you checked if a thread existed, if not then you started one.
Alli-F
09-12-2015
Top Georgia & Giovanni
Bottom Anita & Gleb
Bottom 2 Kellie & Kevin and Katie & Anton
Eliminated Kellie & Kevin
humpty dumpty
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“Hang on, they haven't even danced em yet. Where are these overmarked mistakes coming from? Ian W said he couldn't see a single error in her Foxtrot (tho, to be fair, who could see anything past the crockery?)”

Didn't you get the memo Derviathedog? Georgia NEVER deserves high marks. NEVER does a fantastic job....can't possibly have nailed her technique in ballroom or outperformed the others ....her good marks can only ever be (and must only be) attributed to being judges favourite, producers wish to get her through etc etc Her dancing technique, performance and routine have rarely got anything to do with it!!!! She should be behind all the others in terms of talent, if it wasn't for the conviving producers forcing undeserving marks on her.

Only with other celebs getting high marks can we aknowledge it was because it was a good dance and well deserved.

(And yes, this is decided even before she puts her foot on the dancefloor)
Mystical123
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by Alli-F:
“I know, I thought forum etiquette was you checked if a thread existed, if not then you started one.”

Exactly, as far as I'm aware that's been the etiquette since long before I started posting 6 years ago! All this silly rushing to be the first to start a thread or only one person being allowed to start a thread is completely ridiculous.
Mystical123
09-12-2015
Highest: Jay & Aliona (though wouldn't be surprised if it's Georgia & Giovanni)
Lowest: Anita & Gleb
Bottom two: Kellie & Kevin and Katie & Anton
Eliminated: depends who does better on the night/how desperate everyone is to see Anton in the final.

The ideal scenario for me would be an Anita v Katie dance-off, but I don't see it happening.
notdebbiedingle
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“Didn't you get the memo Derviathedog? Georgia NEVER deserves high marks. NEVER does a fantastic job....can't possibly have nailed her technique in ballroom or outperformed the others ....her good marks can only ever be (and must only be) attributed to being judges favourite, producers wish to get her through etc etc Her dancing technique, performance and routine have rarely got anything to do with it!!!! She should be behind all the others in terms of talent, if it wasn't for the conviving producers forcing undeserving marks on her.

Only with other celebs getting high marks can we aknowledge it was because it was a good dance and well deserved.

(And yes, this is decided even before she puts her foot on the dancefloor)”

Ha ha brilliant Humpty!!
I know exactly what you mean!!
Have to laugh at these people who vote 250 times for one person then say the whole thing's down to manipulation by the judges!!
Amethyzt
09-12-2015
Top. Jay and Aliona

Bottom. Anita and Gleb ... Am sure the judges will place them there even if they are fantastic

DO. Very difficult ...but am going for Kellie v Georgia .... Only bcos I think Anita and Katie/Anton will have more support

Eliminated. Kellie. ... Which would mean first time Kevin doesn't make the final
humpty dumpty
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“Ha ha brilliant Humpty!!
I know exactly what you mean!!
Have to laugh at these people who vote 250 times for one person then say the whole thing's down to manipulation by the judges!!”

I know....or are consumed in moral outrage because she got 1 mark too much (in their expert opinion on dance of course) ...yet go on to vote for someone based on reasons far removed from the quality of the dance anyway!!
Littlegreen42
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“Didn't you get the memo Derviathedog? Georgia NEVER deserves high marks. NEVER does a fantastic job....can't possibly have nailed her technique in ballroom or outperformed the others ....her good marks can only ever be (and must only be) attributed to being judges favourite, producers wish to get her through etc etc Her dancing technique, performance and routine have rarely got anything to do with it!!!! She should be behind all the others in terms of talent, if it wasn't for the conviving producers forcing undeserving marks on her.

Only with other celebs getting high marks can we aknowledge it was because it was a good dance and well deserved.

(And yes, this is decided even before she puts her foot on the dancefloor)”


Well Georgia has made mistakes in her dances that got awarded 10's... so it's not that crazy to presume there is more to it.

MaggieMcGee
09-12-2015
The answer depends on judges' strategic marking and the enthusiasm of voters. I can foresee the leader board being - for strategic reasons:

Georgia
Kellie
Jay
Katie
Anita

DO: ? and Kellie
Eliminated: ?
Dervlathedog
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by MaggieMcGee:
“The answer depends on judges' strategic marking and the enthusiasm of voters. I can foresee the leader board being - for strategic reasons:

Georgia
Kellie
Jay
Katie
Anita

DO: ? and Kellie
Eliminated: ?”


Eeee, if ah'd paid a psychic fer that, ah'd want my money back!
MaggieMcGee
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“Eeee, if ah'd paid a psychic fer that, ah'd want my money back! ”

Why? What's wrong with my prediction? <raises eyebrow>
JohnStannard
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“Exactly, as far as I'm aware that's been the etiquette since long before I started posting 6 years ago! All this silly rushing to be the first to start a thread or only one person being allowed to start a thread is completely ridiculous.”

Thats what i did just checked last night didnt see a thread so thought id start it didnt know certain people start them every week and no one else was allowed to. but there we are obviously someone isnt a happy bunny since i thought i was doing a favour a mistake i certinatly shalnt be making again
humpty dumpty
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by Littlegreen42:
“Well Georgia has made mistakes in her dances that got awarded 10's... so it's not that crazy to presume there is more to it.

”



I'd say its more likely that Darcy was so impressed with the Charleston and perhaps felt it was so ahead of the dances she had saw already and awarded a 9 to, that she gave it a 10. She made no mistakes in her AS - the guy grabbed her skirt rather than her leg in the lift, which was nothing to do with her. Other people have been awarded 10s that haven't done everything perfect in their dance too....and equally its been commented on that she has danced perfectly and should have got tens in other dances and she didn't get them. And undermarked in plenty others so its not all one way as most people are keen to suggest. And shes always deserved her position on the leaderboard imo.

Marks will always be debated on and nobody will agree, for one she deserves a 10 for someone else not - just the same as I might not agree with 10's marked to some others, its understandable we'll all have a different opinion.... but to presume theres a big conspiracy behind it is ridiculous to me. Not only because all of her high marked dances were brilliant to me and well deserved, but because overmarking is the most effective way to lose someone votes, just as being a bit critical is the best way to make someone popular. So its not the best, thought out plan.
strictlylicious
10-12-2015
Hi all. Really depends on the top dance-off dance doesn't it?

OK....

Highest Georgia & Giovanni
Lowest Kellie & Kevin
B2 Kellie & Kevin and Anita & Gleb
not making the final is....Kellie & Kevin
sydrob
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Littlegreen42:
“Well Georgia has made mistakes in her dances that got awarded 10's... so it's not that crazy to presume there is more to it.

”

Craig is the only judge who waits for perfection to get his 10 paddle out. i know one year Len was criticised for it and he said along the lines of I gave"whoever" a 9 and she was better so I gave her a 10.
Everlong Girl
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by humpty dumpty:
“I'd say its more likely that Darcy was so impressed with the Charleston and perhaps felt it was so ahead of the dances she had saw already and awarded a 9 to, that she gave it a 10. She made no mistakes in her AS - the guy grabbed her skirt rather than her leg in the lift, which was nothing to do with her. Other people have been awarded 10s that haven't done everything perfect in their dance too....and equally its been commented on that she has danced perfectly and should have got tens in other dances and she didn't get them. And undermarked in plenty others so its not all one way as most people are keen to suggest. And shes always deserved her position on the leaderboard imo.

Marks will always be debated on and nobody will agree, for one she deserves a 10 for someone else not - just the same as I might not agree with 10's marked to some others, its understandable we'll all have a different opinion.... but to presume theres a big conspiracy behind it is ridiculous to me. Not only because all of her high marked dances were brilliant to me and well deserved, but because overmarking is the most effective way to lose someone votes, just as being a bit critical is the best way to make someone popular. So its not the best, thought out plan.”

I agree. There have been times when I've thought that someone hasn't deserved a 10 when they've received one and other times when I've thought a dance deserved a 10 and not got any. It seems some people are all too happy with the idea of a conspiracy.

I mean what does the BBC gain if Georgia is in the final??? I know what we gain - a competitive and decent final between some good celeb dancers. (Fingers crossed)

People say its because she's doing the tour so TPTB want her to get to the final - but other people say the tour is unrelated to the BBC - so what do they get there?

She's not employed by the BBC so they don't get further exposure to a show she's on outside of SCD.

So I really don't know what the BBC or the show gets out of 'fixing' the judges vote/leaderboard to Georgia's 'benefit'.

IMO if she gets to the final it's because she's deserves it by being a good and consistent dancer .

Now back to the original question in the OP:

Top - Jay & Aliona
Bottom - Kellie & Kevin

DO - Kellie & Kevin v Georgia & Giovanni (I certainly hope GG aren't in the DO this weekend - but 'public' outrage about conspiracies around her dance change might push others ahead in the vote)

Eliminated - Kellie & Kevin
jtnorth
10-12-2015
Just a small point, but the judges are there live and we see only what the camera lets us see - it means that we see some things, particularly sometimes facial expressions, that they might not have seen, and they are much more influenced than we are by what it was like to be there, and how the dance interacted with the audience. So, while we're all going to agree or disagree with the scoring, and that's part of the fun, we aren't really basing it on the same thing they are. Some people have more chemistry with the camera than they do live or the other way. It jumps out to me, just for one obvious example, the way Gleb looks into the camera often, and whether you like that or not might well affect how you feel about the whole dance, and of course the judges are at the side and never see that.

And, of course, how many 10s depends on what week it is.

On topic: who's going - no idea. I think the least safe dances last week were the rumba and the paso - they'd go brilliantly or not, but not a lot of middle ground. This week I think the least safe dances are the rumba again, the two charlestons and the cha cha cha. But this week everyone has a fairly safe ballroom to do for the dance off if they get in trouble with the other. Helen would survive this week no problem.
Shappy
10-12-2015
Top
Georgia and Aliona

Bottom
Jay and Aliona

Dance Off
Katie and Anton & Jay and Aliona

Eliminated
Katie and Anton
daziechain
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“Highest: Jay & Aliona (though wouldn't be surprised if it's Georgia & Giovanni)
Lowest: Anita & Gleb
Bottom two: Kellie & Kevin and Katie & Anton
Eliminated: depends who does better on the night/how desperate everyone is to see Anton in the final.

The ideal scenario for me would be an Anita v Katie dance-off, but I don't see it happening.”

^^^ This ... very much this!
curvybabes
11-12-2015
Highest Jay & Aliona
Lowest Katie & Anton
Dance off Katie v Kellie
Eliminated Katie
Tejas
11-12-2015
I'm going to post my thoughts, but they are negative and I really hope I'm wrong about one thing here...


Highest Score: Jay & Aliona

Lowest Score: Anita & Gleb

Dance-off: Georgia & Giovanni V Kellie & Kevin

Eliminated: Georgia & Giovanni
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