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is Anita in trouble this week?
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catspaw
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Agent Krycek:
“Nope, he may well have double the support of people who vote in on line polls, that's all we know for certain. His support got tested Foxtrot week, third from bottom, which was likely what caused Jeremy's vote to collapse - JV second favourite with a lot of people getting spare votes, Jay's fans panic vote - no spare votes for JV, fans of others close to him aware panic voting going on - no spare votes for JV, JV's vote then collapses and into the bottom 2 he went.”

Foxtrot Week was certainly the first time I got my voting finger out this series and I zoomed a load of votes Jay's way - definite panic factor. As is well documented (not least via the General Election result this year) polling doesn't necessarily translate into votes, especially when some of these polls allow for multi-voting. There's little doubt Jay is the favourite by some distance on the polls but, whether that puts him on top of the public vote each or most weeks is unknown. Since Foxtrot Week he's been fairly high on the leader board.

I would have thought that Anita's "in danger" quotient very much depends on the size of her core vote. Sympathy votes change week by week - I would guess that Georgia will enjoy the bounceback this weekend and, if Anita gets another mauling by the judges, she might have to share that sympathy vote with G and G. If her core vote is big, she'll probably be ok; if not, who knows - the popularity of the others comes more into play.
Sarah777
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by kiyay:
“If I was a Jay fan i'd be trying to work out tactically who it would be best for to vote for besides Jay in the Semi's to try and ensure Anita's in the dance off as when it comes to the final and is down purely to public vote she's his biggest threat, I'm too tired to work that out at the minute but I'm sure someone here can”

This is where I am happy to be an Anita Fan. We just want her in the final and if she loses to anyone just based on public vote, so be it.

I personally think Katie and Anton must be leading in public vote. I think both of them have a big fan base. If no Anita in the final, I was going to vote for Jay. Might have to rethink, I am not of fan these under hand stuff.
Agent Krycek
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“This is where I am happy to be an Anita Fan. We just want her in the final and if she loses to anyone just based on public vote, so be it.

I personally think Katie and Anton must be leading in public vote. I think both of them have a big fan base. If no Anita in the final, I was going to vote for Jay. Might have to rethink, I am not of fan these under hand stuff.”

And no fan of Jay I know of is even considering voting tactically It was just an observation by kiyay, not a fact
BMLisa
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by poshnosh:
“Do we know this for certain?

By the way I don't doubt that he is at the top of the public vote, but until last week-end who would have thought Georgia was as low in the public vote as she obviously was and Jay's vote has not yet been tested.”

Jay has been tested twice in the bottom half and bottom 3 of the leaderboard and Georgia hasn't.

I predicted she could be in danger if not in the top 2 last week. At QF stage Georgia was the only dancer who's support hadn't been tested.
aggs
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by kiyay:
“If I was a Jay fan i'd be trying to work out tactically who it would be best for to vote for besides Jay in the Semi's to try and ensure Anita's in the dance off as when it comes to the final and is down purely to public vote she's his biggest threat, I'm too tired to work that out at the minute but I'm sure someone here can”

Well, personally I voted for Jay and Helen. Now it's all votes to Jay. I want to see him in the final more than I want any of the others out of it.

Trying to get clever with the voting has a habit of backfiring. Anyone who has the support to be in the final has the right to be there.
jtnorth
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Well, personally I voted for Jay and Helen. Now it's all votes to Jay. I want to see him in the final more than I want any of the others out of it.

Trying to get clever with the voting has a habit of backfiring. Anyone who has the support to be in the final has the right to be there.”

Hear hear.
BMLisa
10-12-2015
I have no intention of voting tactically.

The only votes I've placed other than for Jay have been for Jamelia, and not because I wanted Peter out, but because I thought Jamelia deserved them (Charleston and QS weeks)
Alli-F
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“This is where I am happy to be an Anita Fan. We just want her in the final and if she loses to anyone just based on public vote, so be it.

I personally think Katie and Anton must be leading in public vote. I think both of them have a big fan base. If no Anita in the final, I was going to vote for Jay. Might have to rethink, I am not of fan these under hand stuff.”



I don't know why? She doesn't really do well in any polls, she's always in or around the middle, she doesn't have many YouTube watches, Facebook likes, Twitter buzz. She doesn't really do well in any of the places where you could be able to measure support.

I know there is a lot of good will towards Anton this year and so maybe some are voting to get him to the final but if I had to guess, I'd say she's probably 3rd behind Jay and Anita.
vald
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by kiyay:
“If I was a Jay fan i'd be trying to work out tactically who it would be best for to vote for besides Jay in the Semi's to try and ensure Anita's in the dance off as when it comes to the final and is down purely to public vote she's his biggest threat, I'm too tired to work that out at the minute but I'm sure someone here can”

This tactic nearly always backfires. This is not a time to be splitting your vote. Go for your favourite and let the best wo/man win. I bet they're all just thrilled to get this far and to have learnt an amazing new skill. They all seem such lovely people they are going to be delighted for the winner whoever they are, and I intend to follow their example.
kiyay
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Well, personally I voted for Jay and Helen. Now it's all votes to Jay. I want to see him in the final more than I want any of the others out of it.”

If you just want to see him in the final not a problem, if you want to see him lift the trophy too tactical voting at this stage could be an option as even if he's topping the public vote and polls at the minute historically when it comes to the final itself more people tune in who aren't necessarily fans of anyone and vote based on the night and also there could be an anti-jay vote which could backfire against him ie with people voting for the runner up and if Anita's in probably her if she is polling second in public votes at the minute, I don't really expect any of this to happen but it's a possibility depending on how fanatical some of Jay's fans are.
Lou_Black
10-12-2015
At the risk of sounding inflammatory, anyone who "votes tactically" on an entertainment show needs to have a word with themselves.
Pretzel
10-12-2015
I think Anita will be alright and make it to the final, unless she does land in the dance off against a superior dancer. However her votes and popularity seem to have peaked at just the right time to avoid this. So another showstopper crowd-pleasing dance with perhaps a Gleb special will do it.

Ironically her general recognition and popularity is gaining whilst my personal admiration for her is somewhat fading. It's not that I don't think that she's been good or performed well, I still do and I still think she and Gleb are worth watching and have been good for Strictly, I just think that others deserve the final more.

But then I've never been a good barometer of public taste.
catspaw
10-12-2015
I see absolutely no point or value in tactical voting in any situation really, let alone in a nice simple lighthearted thing like SCD. Vote for whom you want to win, not who might prevent X from winning, or might get Y in the DO to save Z. It's all about simple numbers - an arithmetical game not an algebraic one - get the formula wrong and you're stuffed!
kiyay
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Lou_Black:
“At the risk of sounding inflammatory, anyone who "votes tactically" on an entertainment show needs to have a word with themselves.”

I agree but it happens all the time you only have to look at BB , IAACGMOOH to see that
Alli-F
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by kiyay:
“If you just want to see him in the final not a problem, if you want to see him lift the trophy too tactical voting at this stage could be an option as even if he's topping the public vote and polls at the minute historically when it comes to the final itself more people tune in who aren't necessarily fans of anyone and vote based on the night and also there could be an anti-jay vote which could backfire against him ie with people voting for the runner up and if Anita's in probably her if she is polling second in public votes at the minute, I don't really expect any of this to happen but it's a possibility depending on how fanatical some of Jay's fans are.”

It's difficult to have an anti-Jay vote when there are three others left. If it was like Alesha's year, Alesha v Matt d'A, that might work with only two in the final, but it's not going to work with 4.

Jay doesn't need tactical voting imo, his dancing is good enough to stand on its own. He's not only winning polls, he's smashing them, even in polls like DS where you can only vote once. His views on YouTube are so much higher than everyone else's week on week and if he doesn't win, shrug, it's not the end of the world, the public just decided (wrongly 😜 ) that someone else was more popular
Seymour
10-12-2015
is Anita in trouble this week?

I hope not, as imo she has done her best every week, and gave 100% to all her dances, but then so has Kellie...
sydrob
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by catspaw:
“I see absolutely no point or value in tactical voting in any situation really, let alone in a nice simple lighthearted thing like SCD. Vote for whom you want to win, not who might prevent X from winning, or might get Y in the DO to save Z. It's all about simple numbers - an arithmetical game not an algebraic one - get the formula wrong and you're stuffed!”

And its all just specualtion since we don't know the voting statistics. Yes we know Georgia must have been near/or at the bottom last week. But that's all!! For all we know Jay is near the bottom and Anita is absolutely rocking it every week. Its just pointless all this specualting and makes my brain hurt.

Anita needs to dance well, both dramatically and technically to not be in trouble. Three bad weeks in a row and she shouldn't be in the final. Doesn't mean she won't be as at the end of the day relies on votes. If you like her vote for her!!
edy10
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Gobby moo:
“I am guessing anita will dance at the end this week...lol”

Why ? It could very well be Jay. He hasn't closed the show since week 3 I think.
Anita closed the show on the first show in week 1.
catspaw
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Seymour:
“is Anita in trouble this week?

I hope not, as imo she has done her best every week, and gave 100% to all her dances, but then so has Kellie...”

But they all have, surely. It's not just Anita (or Kellie) who have given their all. Some are less obvious about it - doesn't mean they're not trying just as hard.
aggs
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Alli-F:
“It's difficult to have an anti-Jay vote when there are three others left. If it was like Alesha's year, Alesha v Matt d'A, that might work with only two in the final, but it's not going to work with 4.

Jay doesn't need tactical voting imo, his dancing is good enough to stand on its own. He's not only winning polls, he's smashing them, even in polls like DS where you can only vote once. His views on YouTube are so much higher than everyone else's week on week and if he doesn't win, shrug, it's not the end of the world, the public just decided (wrongly �� ) that someone else was more popular”

And on the up side, we get years of wuzzrobbed out of it
Littlegreen42
10-12-2015
I just want Jay and Anita in the final, both have made this series the best in years (for me at least.)

Agent Krycek
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by aggs:
“And on the up side, we get years of wuzzrobbed out of it ”

Oh I'll get eons out of if (and Digger Dean was still bloody robbed and I'm still irritated about it )
kiyay
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Alli-F:
“if he doesn't win, shrug, it's not the end of the world, the public just decided (wrongly 😜 ) that someone else was more popular”

A kindred spirit, that's how I feel about Georgia

I really don't mind who wins this year, they've all done brilliantly, my final four by preference though would be Jay, Georgia, Anita, Katie mainly for the Anton factor but I like Katie too and love the dresses they put her in each week.
Alli-F
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by aggs:
“And on the up side, we get years of wuzzrobbed out of it ”



Yep and the board usually sorts itself out after a while. Now Abbey is considered an unworthy winner by many & that Natalie was a far better dancer. So I'll just flounce around muttering about "best jive ever"

I've changed 😳 I think I've grown up, it's taken a while but I've finally realised that the British public aren't always right but I am 😜😜😜😜😜😜😜😜
yenston
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Seymour:
“is Anita in trouble this week?

I hope not, as imo she has done her best every week, and gave 100% to all her dances, but then so has Kellie...”

I agree with this. I think the judges have been a bit harsh on her this past couple of weeks.
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